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Title: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 06, 2019, 06:12:02 PM
i was asked by several members here to review what i encounter with my new 12vdc spark compressor.
basically it was packed very well with all the mentioned accessories.
i used my tractor's battery system to perform the 3 fills i did.

1st fill was for my Taipan veteran standard from 200 to 250bar.
the spark's pressure gauge reads in MPA so you must convert.... ::)
fill time was 8 minutes and the compressor's temp got to 166*f

2nd fill was for my hatsan flash rifle from 130 to 200bar.
fill time was 10 minutes and max temp got to 171*f

3rd fill was for my SamYang Recluse from 150 to 200bar
fill time was 8 minutes and max temp was 160*f

so to conclude this review, i will say that the spark is what hatsan says it is....
only con i can say is that the temp gauge needs to be in BAR like the majority of the airguns on the market today(that i have).....

anyone have questions about anything, just holler !!
i will do what i can.

 and i do thank yall for look'n and hava great sunday evening...... 8)

Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Back_Roads on January 06, 2019, 10:24:48 PM
 Thanks for the update ! I have a tractor so I don't need to get one  ;) But I do need to get one of these compressors. Just got done topping off the 90ci for tomorrow, I still have to lug it to the truck. I would just keep this in the truck full time. Size wise is it about the same as a 90 CI bottle squared off?
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Hunt4dinner on January 06, 2019, 10:32:19 PM
You’ll have to keep us updated of it’s performance. Thanks for the initial review!
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: dlee on January 06, 2019, 11:55:19 PM
Haven't read much about this compressor - but 77C (171F) seems pretty hot - where is the gauge reading temperature from? Is that oil in the pan or a thermistor on the motor or embedded in the cylinder somewhere like on a YH? I assume it's air-cooled? Just curious.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 07, 2019, 07:42:21 AM
Haven't read much about this compressor - but 77C (171F) seems pretty hot - where is the gauge reading temperature from? Is that oil in the pan or a thermistor on the motor or embedded in the cylinder somewhere like on a YH? I assume it's air-cooled? Just curious.

Air cooled
Manual states 195*f max op temp
No idea where the sensor is .
If you open the cover, you void the warranty
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: avator on January 07, 2019, 07:52:09 AM
John.. am I reading you right? Are you saying that it takes 8 - 10 minutes to fill a gun directly?
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 07, 2019, 08:09:02 AM
John.. am I reading you right? Are you saying that it takes 8 - 10 minutes to fill a gun directly?

Yes it's slow because it's a "micro"
I'm also filling 2 whips and 3 filters.
I'm sure it would be faster if not using them
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: avator on January 07, 2019, 08:21:12 AM
Yep, would be faster....
I was just really shocked by those fill times. I guess I'm spoiled with the MKII and Vevor rapid fill times...  ;)
The Vevor fills my Sumatra double tube from 2k to 3k in <> 15 seconds. It don't operate on 12v but it sure is portable enough. I've filled my guns at least 30 times now and it's working great. I also topped off a 30 minute SCBA 4500psi tank from 2k to 3k. That took maybe 15 minutes. I used that tank to fill my 2k guns on the fly. I won't use the Vevor on the tank once my MKII is back in service.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on January 07, 2019, 09:08:36 AM
Bill,  you say the Vevor is portable, does it require the bucket of water to cool it like the YH compressors?  When my YH finally dies, I want something that doesn't require a tank of water to cool it.  12V would be nice, but not a necessity.  If the Vevor isn't water cooled, I'd like to look into it more.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: avator on January 07, 2019, 09:18:53 AM
It is water cooled. But, a 2 gal bucket of water is plenty for short runs while filling guns directly. I took a large Folgers coffee container and cut holes in the lid for the tubes. Works great and very portable. If the water temps get a bit high, just dump it and refill it. When session is done I just dry the container out and store the compressor accessories in it. As long as your shooting destination has a 120v power source, your good to go. I also plug the compressor and water pump into a 100' cord with zero issues.
No doubt I have read the Chinese compressor horror stories and I'm not saying it will last forever but for now, it fills my needs. And it cost me just over $200.
John, I apologize for stepping on your review, please continue.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 07, 2019, 09:19:46 AM
Yep, would be faster....
I was just really shocked by those fill times. I guess I'm spoiled with the MKII and Vevor rapid fill times...  ;)
The Vevor fills my Sumatra double tube from 2k to 3k in <> 15 seconds. It don't operate on 12v but it sure is portable enough. I've filled my guns at least 30 times now and it's working great. I also topped off a 30 minute SCBA 4500psi tank from 2k to 3k. That took maybe 15 minutes. I used that tank to fill my 2k guns on the fly. I won't use the Vevor on the tank once my MKII is back in service.

Yep, both my YH's fill times are from 20 to 45 seconds depending on the guns tank size
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: avator on January 07, 2019, 09:23:22 AM
Sounds like a handy device for filling guns in remote areas. I wonder if it would run on the 12v plug in adapter (cig lighter plug) on the 4-wheeler.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 07, 2019, 10:12:28 AM
Sounds like a handy device for filling guns in remote areas. I wonder if it would run on the 12v plug in adapter (cig lighter plug) on the 4-wheeler.

As pressure increases to 200bar,
I seen 17amp load, so I would not connect it thru a cig lighter socket..... :o
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on January 07, 2019, 12:13:58 PM
Sounds like a handy device for filling guns in remote areas. I wonder if it would run on the 12v plug in adapter (cig lighter plug) on the 4-wheeler.

As pressure increases to 200bar,
I seen 17amp load, so I would not connect it thru a cig lighter socket..... :o

I was thinking about a riding lawn mower battery for remote use and just connect it (battery & compressor) to a trickle charger for home use.  Not sure you would even need the external power supply with that setup, especially if you're just filling rifles directly.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: KnifeMaker on January 09, 2019, 08:44:34 PM
John, what ever happened to the full size Hatsan compressor. It was a hit at the shot show last year, and ever since, crickets.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 10, 2019, 09:30:47 PM
John, what ever happened to the full size Hatsan compressor. It was a hit at the shot show last year, and ever since, crickets.

there are a couple guys here that has one...i think BigRagu has one... ???

there on sale now and save $300 !!
$1039 on hatsanusa code is  LIGHT19
and i think its available to everyone, not just subscribers
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Gunner1985 on January 13, 2019, 12:41:42 PM
Thanks for posting the review. I'm not a huge fan of the YH compressor I bought and would like something with integrated cooling like this compressor.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Bigragu on January 17, 2019, 11:01:45 PM
i was asked by several members here to review what i encounter with my new 12vdc spark compressor.
basically it was packed very well with all the mentioned accessories.
i used my tractor's battery system to perform the 3 fills i did.

1st fill was for my Taipan veteran standard from 200 to 250bar.
the spark's pressure gauge reads in MPA so you must convert.... ::)
fill time was 8 minutes and the compressor's temp got to 166*f

2nd fill was for my hatsan flash rifle from 130 to 200bar.
fill time was 10 minutes and max temp got to 171*f

3rd fill was for my SamYang Recluse from 150 to 200bar
fill time was 8 minutes and max temp was 160*f

so to conclude this review, i will say that the spark is what hatsan says it is....
only con i can say is that the temp gauge needs to be in BAR like the majority of the airguns on the market today(that i have).....

anyone have questions about anything, just holler !!
i will do what i can.

 and i do thank yall for look'n and hava great sunday evening...... 8)


Thanks for posting! I am confused, though. I thought by looking at the pics of this compressor the temp gage shows in Fahrenheit? Is it the pressure gage your talking about, not reading in BAR?

Glad your happy with it. Lord knows Hatsan needs some more positive reviews, lol.

I just topped off my tank from 3400 to a solid 4500 with my lightning yesterday. Took around 13 minutes, and highest the temp got to was 133 degrees F. Love that thing!
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Bigragu on January 18, 2019, 01:00:32 AM
Knife, to answer your curiousness of what happened to the Lightning compressor; I can only speak for myself and like three others that really like theirs. I have a feeling there’s more hatsan compressor fans out there, just not piping in.
I don’t get it,either, why more folks don’t invest in this residential type compressor. This unit got a couple of bad reviews that went on for pages, and ever since then, no one wants to preach the word; lol!

What’s ironic, is you can see page after page of Yong Heng troubles, and people still post up that they bought one and love it, and always asking about it, period.

Knife, if you decide to invest in a mid range compressorthats priced well at FS, go for it!
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: KnifeMaker on January 18, 2019, 01:54:34 AM
What is Fs? I wondered what happened to the lightening. Didn't know anyone had them. 
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 18, 2019, 06:11:19 AM
i was asked by several members here to review what i encounter with my new 12vdc spark compressor.
basically it was packed very well with all the mentioned accessories.
i used my tractor's battery system to perform the 3 fills i did.

1st fill was for my Taipan veteran standard from 200 to 250bar.
the spark's pressure gauge reads in MPA so you must convert.... ::)
fill time was 8 minutes and the compressor's temp got to 166*f

2nd fill was for my hatsan flash rifle from 130 to 200bar.
fill time was 10 minutes and max temp got to 171*f

3rd fill was for my SamYang Recluse from 150 to 200bar
fill time was 8 minutes and max temp was 160*f

so to conclude this review, i will say that the spark is what hatsan says it is....
only con i can say is that the temp gauge needs to be in BAR like the majority of the airguns on the market today(that i have).....

anyone have questions about anything, just holler !!
i will do what i can.

 and i do thank yall for look'n and hava great sunday evening...... 8)


Thanks for posting! I am confused, though. I thought by looking at the pics of this compressor the temp gage shows in Fahrenheit? Is it the pressure gage your talking about, not reading in BAR?

Glad your happy with it. Lord knows Hatsan needs some more positive reviews, lol.

I just topped off my tank from 3400 to a solid 4500 with my lightning yesterday. Took around 13 minutes, and highest the temp got to was 133 degrees F. Love that thing!


pressure gauge needs to be in BAR instead of Mpa....sorry about that  :-[
and
the temp gauge is in Fahrenheit
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Bigragu on January 18, 2019, 07:42:25 AM
FS- Fieldsupply.com. Right now that Lightning compressor is on sale in the $900’s.  No one else offers it for that low a price.

The Hatsan Lightning compressor got a bad rap to a couple bad reviews, and for some reason it’s been given the dark cloud. For some reason, the Yong hangs that have post after post on every major air rifle forum also does get bad posts from some that have bought, it still keeps trucking along in sales, it seems. The AirVenturi has seen its share of a few un happy folks, but it still trucks along. For some reason, though, the Hatsan, which I believe to be a top notch residential type of compressor(have to add that), still has the black cloud. Over on AGN there are more happy buyers of this Lightning than over here on GTA, and hopefully their positive experiences will revive the sales of this thing. I truly enjoy mine more so than the rifles themselves, and look forward to using it every time. The only things that have gone wrong since I took ownership of one in July 2018 is the digital gage minus button sticks when depressed, and the fill whip developed a leak. I filled out the customer service form on Hatsan’s website, sent a couple of pics when they request it, and bam! New ones in the mail within five business days.

The features it has of the auto purge, auto stop, choices of BAR or PSI pressure readings, Fahrenheit reading, and a self check that won’t allow you to turn on the compressor w/o the cooling pump on first is priceless to me. There’s even a lady’s voice that will tell you it’s good to go to turn on!
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: avator on January 18, 2019, 08:07:36 AM
That's a deal breaker for me... all I need is another female telling me what to do.    :-\
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Bigragu on January 18, 2019, 12:53:31 PM
Ha! ha! Good one, lol
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: KnifeMaker on January 19, 2019, 12:21:45 AM
The one thing that scared me off of this unit is the terrible customer service Hatsan has been giving. A week or more to respond is too long! :(


Call Pyramyd airs repair, which is AirVenturi, and they will help you out NOW. Not an email back asking for more info, or really lame suggestions from some one who has NO Idea of what they are talking about.  Once a week or more for answers that don't do anything is bad. Really Bad!. 
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 19, 2019, 11:16:44 AM
the few things i have had trouble with, i always filled out the online customer service form and requested to return items for repair or replacement.
that same day i got a response , or the next if during the week.
first thing monday morning if i requested on the weekend.
they always emailed me a return label for shipping and within a week or so the items where repaired or replaced quickly.
i even got a follow-up email from HatsanUSA wanting to know if i was satisfied.

i would not hesitate to purchase anything they have if thats what i want.
they have been great with customer service and i will continue to buy there
products.

the main reason some folks have had trouble with them is they failed to contact them through there online customer service form.

after reading several folks complaints here, i mentioned the form and they had not a clue...... so, "it is what it is"  ::)

Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: avator on January 20, 2019, 08:54:20 AM
I have a couple Hatsan products but never dealt with them directly. Heard the rumors but I find that more people post about the bad than the good.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: KnifeMaker on January 22, 2019, 11:52:02 PM
Thanks GenDoc! That is a bit more encouraging! ;)


Knife
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on January 23, 2019, 08:42:47 AM
My experience with them started off rocky with all the problems I had with the refurb BullBoss, but in the end they did come through for me, and it's been problem free since then.  I also picked up an AT44-10S from Amazon that was 3 years old even though it was sold as new.  The air tube leaked from both ends, but Hatsan sent me a return label and I had the repaired air tub back a week later.  I just recently bought some parts and they were pretty responsive with that order as well.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: MJP on January 28, 2019, 10:46:51 AM
Dude you making a review and not a single picture of the process, we need pictures man.
Or at least I need pictures.  ;D

Marko
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: UlteriorModem on January 28, 2019, 02:41:56 PM
Quick question.

What was the ambient temperature during your initial fills?
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 28, 2019, 07:45:41 PM
Quick question.

What was the ambient temperature during your initial fills?

it was 20c in my shop during filling the 3 guns.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on January 28, 2019, 07:46:41 PM
Dude you making a review and not a single picture of the process, we need pictures man.
Or at least I need pictures.  ;D

Marko

i will get some together soon.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on February 07, 2019, 07:22:35 PM
Dude you making a review and not a single picture of the process, we need pictures man.
Or at least I need pictures.  ;D

Marko

Marko, sorry for the late picture....i can have many more after deer season which ends sunday....
here is one to get us by until then.

filling the recluse for a hog hunt  8)

Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: MJP on February 08, 2019, 05:36:59 AM
No worries John, dear season comes first! Meat in the freezer is more important than couple of pictures.

Marko
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: UlteriorModem on February 08, 2019, 10:16:18 AM
Dude you making a review and not a single picture of the process, we need pictures man.
Or at least I need pictures.  ;D

Marko

Marko, sorry for the late picture....i can have many more after deer season which ends sunday....
here is one to get us by until then.

filling the recluse for a hog hunt  8)

I like the strapping of the gold filter to the table leg, gives me ideas :D
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on February 08, 2019, 12:37:44 PM
Dude you making a review and not a single picture of the process, we need pictures man.
Or at least I need pictures.  ;D

Marko

Marko, sorry for the late picture....i can have many more after deer season which ends sunday....
here is one to get us by until then.

filling the recluse for a hog hunt  8)

I like the strapping of the gold filter to the table leg, gives me ideas :D

Yep, me too, and I have that same table!
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on February 08, 2019, 12:45:15 PM
Dude you making a review and not a single picture of the process, we need pictures man.
Or at least I need pictures.  ;D

Marko

Marko, sorry for the late picture....i can have many more after deer season which ends sunday....
here is one to get us by until then.

filling the recluse for a hog hunt  8)

I like the strapping of the gold filter to the table leg, gives me ideas :D

Yep, me too, and I have that same table!

one of the best things i have ever bought from Harbor Freight...... ;)
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on February 08, 2019, 01:12:40 PM
John, I agree!  In fact, I can't wait till I'm fully retired and can replace my desk with another Harbor Freight work table!   ;D
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Pixter on February 08, 2019, 07:04:43 PM
The same pump is available unbranded on AliExpress and includes a power supply. I intend to order one soon. Don't forget to order a water separator as well.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: KnifeMaker on February 08, 2019, 09:07:12 PM
The same pump is available unbranded on AliExpress and includes a power supply. I intend to order one soon. Don't forget to order a water separator as well.


But will you get the same after sale service, warranty, and quick turnaround if something goes wrong with it. Sometimes saving money, cost a lot more in the long run.  I wouldn't risk it. compressors live in harsh environment. When help is needed, it is needed NOW!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: avator on February 08, 2019, 09:23:17 PM
The same pump is available unbranded on AliExpress and includes a power supply. I intend to order one soon. Don't forget to order a water separator as well.


but will you get the same after sale service, warranty, and quick turnaround if something goes wrong with it. Sometimes saving money, cost a lot more in the long run.  I wouldn't risk it. compressors live in harsh environment. When help is needed, it is needed NOW!!!  ;)
That's HUGE !
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on February 15, 2019, 07:40:11 PM
The same pump is available unbranded on AliExpress and includes a power supply. I intend to order one soon. Don't forget to order a water separator as well.


but will you get the same after sale service, warranty, and quick turnaround if something goes wrong with it. Sometimes saving money, cost a lot more in the long run.  I wouldn't risk it. compressors live in harsh environment. When help is needed, it is needed NOW!!!  ;)
That's HUGE !

if a problem occurs with your Hatsan product,
all that has to be done is fill out the online service/warranty request form and ask for a return label.
HatsanUSA will take care of you  ;D

my spark has been working overtime since i got the new to me careerII,
it gets a lot of shots, but its so accurate with the speed its got.....i go thru a fill quickly and the local varmints are holding off on come'n around these days  8)
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: fatmike on March 02, 2019, 05:08:36 PM
How is the spark holding up now that it has been a couple months on it?  I'm looking for a compressor that'll last few years. I'm torn on a yong heng or the spark. I'm hoping the spark would offer less headache at the cost of speed of fill. 
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on March 02, 2019, 05:12:08 PM
How is the spark holding up now that it has been a couple months on it?  I'm looking for a compressor that'll last few years. I'm torn on a yong heng or the spark. I'm hoping the spark would offer less headache at the cost of speed of fill.
still holding strong...but wait and see about the compressor JSAR is working with right now.
this might be the best out there.  alot of folks are at attention on this one... ;)
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: DamonZ28 on March 02, 2019, 11:01:18 PM
How is the spark holding up now that it has been a couple months on it?  I'm looking for a compressor that'll last few years. I'm torn on a yong heng or the spark. I'm hoping the spark would offer less headache at the cost of speed of fill.
still holding strong...but wait and see about the compressor JSAR is working with right now.
this might be the best out there.  alot of folks are at attention on this one... ;)

Do you have a link to a thread regarding the JSAR compressor? Interested in following it.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: gendoc on March 03, 2019, 06:13:23 AM
How is the spark holding up now that it has been a couple months on it?  I'm looking for a compressor that'll last few years. I'm torn on a yong heng or the spark. I'm hoping the spark would offer less headache at the cost of speed of fill.
still holding strong...but wait and see about the compressor JSAR is working with right now.
this might be the best out there.  alot of folks are at attention on this one... ;)

Do you have a link to a thread regarding the JSAR compressor? Interested in following it.

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=154416.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=154416.0)
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on March 03, 2019, 10:04:43 AM
Yep, I'm watching that one also.  Right now I have it narrowed down to the Hatsan Spark, Nomad II and the JSAR model.  I like the Nomad II the best since it doesn't need an external power supply to run off AC, but it's also quite a bit more expensive. 

It would be nice to know what recommendations Travis made on the JSAR Compressor and if those recommendation are being incorporated into the final design.  Fortunately, my YH is still plugging along nicely, so it's not a purchase that needs to be made anytime soon...
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: 45Bravo on October 15, 2019, 12:30:51 AM
I know this is a 7 months old thread, but how is the spark still doing?


Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: DamonZ28 on October 15, 2019, 12:56:06 AM
Funny that you would ask. I'm about to pull the trigger on a Spark myself.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: VaporTrail on October 15, 2019, 03:00:14 AM
haven't owned my Spark for 7 months...maybe 2 months? It's been filling a Sumatra Long (500cc)...maybe about 15 times? 20? I bought it as a refurb from Hatsan, it's still trucking.

It's not as loud as a Yong Heng, but it also doesn't fill as fast. Takes a couple of minutes, depending on how low you let the pressure on the rifle go. From 140KGF to 210, it takes a couple of minutes.

I really like how I can just use a car battery and set everything up on the shooting table.

Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: DamonZ28 on December 15, 2019, 03:28:45 PM
What are the minimum specs for a battery for the Spark? I want to set one up in my basement & just hook it up to a battery. Will a lawn tractor battery work? I have a trickle charger so I'm all set for charging. Getting ready to pull the trigger on it.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on December 15, 2019, 03:38:59 PM
What are the minimum specs for a battery for the Spark? I want to set one up in my basement & just hook it up to a battery. Will a lawn tractor battery work? I have a trickle charger so I'm all set for charging. Getting ready to pull the trigger on it.

I'm curious to know that as well.  I lawn mower battery and trickle charger would make a nice mobile setup at an outdoor range so you wouldn't have to keep your car running when filling an air gun.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Back_Roads on December 15, 2019, 08:13:51 PM
 I did 5 fills off my truck battery in an afternoons shooting session with a similar compressor, had no issues with dead battery, so I assume there would be more fills with a deep cycle dedicated battery, the higher the amp ratting the better IMO. These compressors do fill slightly faster hooked to a battery with a vehicle running though.
 If wanting for lighter use in a remote location a 300 or so amp lawn tractor battery and a solar panel charger could be a possible option.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: VaporTrail on December 15, 2019, 11:18:51 PM
What are the minimum specs for a battery for the Spark? I want to set one up in my basement & just hook it up to a battery. Will a lawn tractor battery work? I have a trickle charger so I'm all set for charging. Getting ready to pull the trigger on it.

I guess it would depend on amperage. I think Gendoc uses a tractor battery for his. If you have the trickle charger, then go for it. I wonder if you'd be able to stick it on the trickle charger and just run the compressor. Anyone know if this will work?

Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: VaporTrail on December 15, 2019, 11:44:35 PM
What are the minimum specs for a battery for the Spark? I want to set one up in my basement & just hook it up to a battery. Will a lawn tractor battery work? I have a trickle charger so I'm all set for charging. Getting ready to pull the trigger on it.

I'm curious to know that as well.  I lawn mower battery and trickle charger would make a nice mobile setup at an outdoor range so you wouldn't have to keep your car running when filling an air gun.

I have an old battery from my truck, 35 class. I lug that around when I use my Spark. Depending on how big the reservoir is on your gun and how often you fill, you may end up running the battery down. The first time I used it, I was filling Sumi and the Winchester. Probably used it about 10 times? Then the second day, after the 3rd or 4th fill, I noticed the compressor was a little slow. Charged up the battery again and it was good to go. Now I just get the battery on the charger after every 6-8 fills. Easy money.

I'm probably going to end up getting the power supply for it from Hatsan and then choose between lugging a battery or the tank around when I go for the jungle walks. Thankfully my shooting station is right outside the back patio, so I'm just gonna run an extension cord for the compressor and save the car battery for when I'm going to do extended shooting sessions down at the ranch.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: tejon on December 16, 2019, 01:08:02 AM
I did 5 fills from my 7year old f150 battery. Like nothing.

It is an old optima red top....
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: MisterAP on May 09, 2020, 11:30:52 PM
Waking up an old thread.  How are the Sparks running?  I just got mine and filled my Fortitude from 2000 to 3000psi in around 2 minutes.  Really enjoyed not using the manual pump :D

 
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: VaporTrail on May 09, 2020, 11:55:19 PM
Mine's still chugging like a champ. Used it last weekend, filled a Sumatra about 8 times, Win35 about 3 times, Bullboss about 4 times and a Bulldog (up to 2500) about 4 times.

Still using a beaten up old truck battery that hasn't been charged in about 4 months, maybe longer. It was really slowing down during the last 3 fills on the Bulldog. I need to throw it on the charger again.

No issues so far (knock on wood), aside from the temp gauge going blank. It was a refurb, so I'd assume that the battery life in the gauge has just about run its course. Still haven't replaced it yet.

So far so good.  8)
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: MisterAP on May 10, 2020, 12:02:28 AM
That’s good to hear!

I suppose the temperature gauge can only be removed/battery replaced by opening the case?

Would be nice if it could be pulled straight out without opening the case, but I’m going to have to wait a year to try ;)
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: VaporTrail on May 10, 2020, 09:03:18 AM
I wonder about that. Hopefully it's something like the YH, where it's a click to fit kinda deal.

I really should take a look at it; it's been like 5 months since it went out.  :o
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Paul E on May 10, 2020, 10:43:20 AM
The temp gauge is the exact same temp gauge that is used on the yong heng compressor except in Fahrenheit and uses 2 small round batteries. Its easy to change the batteries but I did remove the cover to do it. I hope you guys have better luck then I have had with my spark. First one broke the motor to pump coupler shaft and the motor @$%^ the bed on the second.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: DamonZ28 on May 10, 2020, 11:46:19 AM
I suppose the temperature gauge can only be removed/battery replaced by opening the case?

Would be nice if it could be pulled straight out without opening the case, but I’m going to have to wait a year to try ;)

Mine is still working fine, although I've used it less than 10 times. The temp gauge went out on mine - it was displaying funky digits. Hatsan sent new batteries, which didn't help, so they sent a new gauge. I asked about voiding the warranty by removing the case, this was their reply:

"The gauge can be removed by pressing inward on both sides of the gauge from the underside. You will see how it is held in place with the compressor housing removed. The probe is held in place with a zip tie that can be cut away and replaced with a new one."

They said this about the warranty:
"This sticker has been included from the factory. However, simply removing the housing to replace the temperature gauge will not void your overall warranty."
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: MisterAP on May 14, 2020, 10:27:21 PM
How much vibration and sound do you all have when using it to fill?

I fill my Fortitude from around 1300psi till the max 3000 psi.  It takes about 4 to 5 minutes, but it shakes like heck.  Now I’m also hearing a bit of pinging on each stroke—almost like a BB rattling.

The shaking is much less when the pressure is closer to 0, and there is no pinging at that time either.

What have your experiences been?
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: tejon on May 15, 2020, 01:26:01 AM
I hear ya about the shaking... on mine is like u said. Shakes pretty good... until I put it on a goodsolid concrete table in my farm house. Which also works as a heat sink... but no weird noises
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: VaporTrail on May 15, 2020, 02:39:14 AM
The temp gauge is the exact same temp gauge that is used on the yong heng compressor except in Fahrenheit and uses 2 small round batteries. Its easy to change the batteries but I did remove the cover to do it. I hope you guys have better luck then I have had with my spark. First one broke the motor to pump coupler shaft and the motor @$%^ the bed on the second.

I kinda figured that. Good to know, as I have some extra batteries for the YH. So far my Spark has been chugging along, no weird noises. Hope I didn't just jinx myself.  :(



I suppose the temperature gauge can only be removed/battery replaced by opening the case?

Would be nice if it could be pulled straight out without opening the case, but I’m going to have to wait a year to try ;)

Mine is still working fine, although I've used it less than 10 times. The temp gauge went out on mine - it was displaying funky digits. Hatsan sent new batteries, which didn't help, so they sent a new gauge. I asked about voiding the warranty by removing the case, this was their reply:

"The gauge can be removed by pressing inward on both sides of the gauge from the underside. You will see how it is held in place with the compressor housing removed. The probe is held in place with a zip tie that can be cut away and replaced with a new one."

They said this about the warranty:
"This sticker has been included from the factory. However, simply removing the housing to replace the temperature gauge will not void your overall warranty."

That's odd. When I wrote them about the outer cover being damaged on a corner, they told me that perhaps the PO (I bought it as a refurb) tried to remove it. They then told me not to remove it, as it would void my warranty.

Well, if they say it can be removed by clicking on the sides, then I'm golden.



How much vibration and sound do you all have when using it to fill?

I fill my Fortitude from around 1300psi till the max 3000 psi.  It takes about 4 to 5 minutes, but it shakes like heck.  Now I’m also hearing a bit of pinging on each stroke—almost like a BB rattling.

The shaking is much less when the pressure is closer to 0, and there is no pinging at that time either.

What have your experiences been?


I don't really have vibration on mine; it's more or less shaking. Takes about 3 mins to fill my Sumatra from 140KG/F to 200. A little longer if I'm using a 12v battery.
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on May 15, 2020, 08:44:15 AM
When the shaft broke on mine I sent pictures of the broken shaft to Hatsan USA and they sent me a new shaft and main reduction gear for free.  Mine was purchased used and was about 2 months past the 1 year warranty when it broke.  It was pretty obvious I had removed the cover and partially disassembled the compressor to get the pictures, so I don't think I'd be too concerned about removing the cover to replace the batteries!   ;D
Title: Re: Hatsan Spark Compressor, my review....
Post by: DamonZ28 on May 15, 2020, 09:00:04 AM
Well, if they say it can be removed by clicking on the sides, then I'm golden.

It can, you just have to be careful. If you have a couple of real narrow flathead screwdrivers and push in on each side as you're lifting up, that would probably help. When I pulled mine out the first time, I didn't really know what I was doing. When I put it back in, it didn't seem to be as tight.