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Title: Re: Stoeger X20 Review
Post by: LeadHead on August 31, 2011, 02:53:47 AM
Wow that was a real good write up. Out of curioisty, do they have leather seals? I'm not too fond of them as I am getting spoiled with nitro pistons and my PCP's that I recently acquired in a bid on a storage locker. Haven't shot any of them yet as I am still reading up on them and at the same time looking for a job. Good job Jeremy!
Title: Re: Stoeger X20 Review
Post by: Smaug on August 31, 2011, 08:39:42 AM
No, they have synthetic seals.
Title: Re: Stoeger X20 Review
Post by: grumpy on August 31, 2011, 11:05:49 AM
Thank for the write up. Looks like some pretty nice groups there.
Title: Re: Stoeger X20 Review
Post by: Tactical Tom on September 05, 2011, 05:29:54 PM
Nice review...I looked at the X20 & the X50 today at my local gun store...they feel good in hand !
Title: Re: Stoeger X20 Review
Post by: 0351_Vet on September 06, 2011, 04:09:39 AM
This will be a work in process, just like the Clash of the Liliputians. I'll just add posts, so as not to make one gi-normous post in the other one.

I'll start with targets, since I just got around to scanning them tonight.

After I found that Crosman Premier Lights (CPLs) shot the best at 10 yards, I moved targets out to 25, 50, and 70 yards to see what it (and I) could do. Not match grade, I guess, but I'm happy!

This was after the installation of the Charlie da Tuna GRTIII trigger. I couldn't get consistent groups with the stocker. I could get good ones occasionally, just not consistently.

You'll notice, perhaps, that in the 70 yard group, three of them are touching. I think maybe the gun is capable of that, and I'm just not.


Do you know anything about this model?

Stoeger X20 Suppressor

I'd be interested in info from all in the know...Thanks
Title: Re: Stoeger X20 Review
Post by: Smaug on September 15, 2011, 02:05:23 AM
Well, what I know is that it has some kind of suppressor that makes it a bit quieter than the standard X20. Just a bit. It also only comes with a fixed 4X scope instead of the nice 3-9 that mine came with.

I think Paul Capello tested it and found that it is not much quieter at all.
Title: Re: Stoeger X20 Review
Post by: facetjockey on September 17, 2011, 02:28:24 PM
   The X20 looks impressive however my complaint is that it is by far the most uncomfortable rifle I have ever handled in my 60+ years of shooting.  At first I thought it was me.  For health reasons I had been away from shooting for several years.  Maybe I was over reacting.  "WRONG"  From my M1 Garand to my Stevens antique .22 and at least a dozen more rifles from several different manufacturers all fit.  When I carry or shoulder any of them there is a natural flow and feel at the grip trigger area and beyond.
                Stoeger seems to have ignored this completely. The Chinese must think we of European decent have arms and fingers that reach around the block.
    When I first put it to my shoulder I thought I was doing something wrong. The trigger I thought I was barely reaching was actually the rear of the trigger guard.  The trigger was at least an inch away. The pistol grip is totally useless in holding the rifle firmly to your shoulder.
  To reach the trigger I had to leave the pistol grip behind and contort my hand floating free of  the pistol grip.  I say contort because the well finished impressive looking stock is squared off above the trigger instead of being shaved or tapered to enable a good fit for a trigger finger.  As a result it is not at all a natural feel shooting. The stock itself is a bit long as well for this 5'11" former "lineman for the county". To shoot from a rest I had to hold it like a child.   
   The main problem is with the grip length. My Mi Garand is 3 3/4": Ruger 3 3/4"; Savage is 3 1/2" and Mossberg is 3 1/4" as opposed to the X20 which is 4 1/4". That length combines with the robust circumference of the grip to make it difficult to hold for all but the largest hands.
   One review I remember said the stock cheek pads enabled a natural hold for a scope. Not so for me! I have to hold my head up free of the stock to use my scope.
  My only mechanical complaint is the safety. The safety works too well. The X20 safety disengages with a loud click and only after an abnormal amount of pressure. At first I thought it was broken!   I have engaged/disengaged it hundreds of times since to see if it will loosen up. Perhaps, but only barely perceptibly. 
Title: Re: Stoeger X20 Review
Post by: Smaug on September 17, 2011, 08:14:30 PM
facetjocket, the trigger reach improved greatly once I installed the Charlie da Tuna trigger. If you don't like the grip angle, there's no help for that, but the trigger reach can be helped.

If I were to make one change, I would give it a thumbhole or pistol grip stock. These traditional ones just don't feel good from a bench.