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Title: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 23, 2019, 09:53:32 PM
I got an email from PA about this new gun and it appears they just came out yesterday, I believe Barra is bear river arms but am not really positive.
I could find nothing online about this new gun but thought it was cool and seems to likely be about the same internally as the sportsman 900 which I hear is a decent gun.
I thought it looked pretty cool and since the daisy spitting image won't be finding me any time soon I went ahead and ordered one.
$74.99 + Shipping and tax makes it $94.99 shipped, maybe a bit high but hopefully it's not too bad of a gun.

Kind of hokey to have a bolt action Winchester lever gun, but for a multi pump air rifle there's not a lot of options for loading and cocking it.
It looks like the hammer is the safety which is kind of cool.
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4VTqcpf/PY-5007-Barra-Cowboy-Series-1866-1568830127.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjmdRyKx)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/Lsv5H8kV/PY-5007-Barra-Cowboy-Series-1866-1568830134.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLb875cL)


I can't promise I'll do some major accuracy testing but as the first on the forum to own one I believe I'll definitely let everyone know what I find when I get it.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on October 24, 2019, 08:16:16 AM
If you look at the PA spec sheet for the gun in the upper right hand corner you will see where it has a link to other Bear River air guns. This clearly suggests it's a bear River gun. If the receiver and pump arm are metal I'd be in for one at that price.
Nice find... I love the style.
Please keep us posted.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: c_m_shooter on October 24, 2019, 09:27:19 AM
The pump handle should at least give you some good leverage as long as you can keep the other hand from getting pinched.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 24, 2019, 02:03:19 PM
If you look at the PA spec sheet for the gun in the upper right hand corner you will see where it has a link to other Bear River air guns. This clearly suggests it's a bear River gun. If the receiver and pump arm are metal I'd be in for one at that price.
Nice find... I love the style.
Please keep us posted.
Will do.
I had an initial thought that the receiver could be metal, but the butt is listed as plastic and since the butt plate is the same color as the receiver I'm assuming the receiver is probably just vacuum metalized plastic.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on October 24, 2019, 03:29:08 PM
None the less... I love the look. That plastic cocking knob concerns me a bit.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 24, 2019, 03:59:08 PM
None the less... I love the look. That plastic cocking knob concerns me a bit.
It definitely interferes with the looks, but it does seem thicker and sturdier than Crosman or Daisy offerings.
My biggest concerns are how it feels to pump with the lever being so long, and the stock looking like it might want to slide off your shoulder.

If you hold it by the receiver you're holding it in front of your pumping hand, by the grip and you're likely to pinch yourself, and by the back of the stock and you're so far back from the pivot point which might be weird.
It seems like it would work out best with the stock butted against your thigh.


It's cool how the lever is the pump arm, but a faux lever with standard forearm pumping might have been a better way to go.
I'll know when I get it.

Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on October 24, 2019, 04:43:22 PM
Anyways..... thank you for jumping in and checking it out for us.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 24, 2019, 06:22:59 PM
Anyways..... thank you for jumping in and checking it out for us.
No problem.
Hopefully it turns out to be something decent.
I've heard the sportsman 900 shoots pretty well so if this has the same barrel it may as well.
I don't think I'll be the one who figures out how to improve the trigger, I'll leave that to someone else.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on October 24, 2019, 06:57:26 PM
Anyways..... thank you for jumping in and checking it out for us.
No problem.
Hopefully it turns out to be something decent.
I've heard the sportsman 900 shoots pretty well so if this has the same barrel it may as well.
I don't think I'll be the one who figures out how to improve the trigger, I'll leave that to someone else.
Yep.... I have a 900. It's worth what I paid for it.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: 19Sheridan57 on October 25, 2019, 08:53:30 AM
Good looking rifle & I hope it works, well. If it doesn't, at least you haven't spent a lot of money for it.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 25, 2019, 09:33:25 PM
Good looking rifle & I hope it works, well. If it doesn't, at least you haven't spent a lot of money for it.
Certainly.
$95 is worth it if I can let everyone else know whether or not to bother with it, and of course to finally be the first one on the block to own the new thing  ;)

And if it does stink at least I have something to play cowboy with while I watch Gunsmoke Bonanza or one of my favorite Clint Eastwood westerns  ;D
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on October 25, 2019, 09:53:49 PM
Be great if it shot small plastic cowboys and indians really good.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 25, 2019, 10:54:35 PM
Be great if it shot small plastic cowboys and indians really good.
Definitely.
Great idea I think I'll have to pick some up next time I'm at the dollar store.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on October 26, 2019, 08:56:12 AM
Grab a little cowboy hat, some chaps and a stick pony as well.... ;D
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 26, 2019, 09:05:53 AM
Grab a little cowboy hat, some chaps and a stick pony as well.... ;D
I've got a hat but never had any chaps, the stick pony and vest are long gone  ;D

Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 28, 2019, 02:25:12 PM
It's looking like I should have the gun today or tomorrow.
I have to work this afternoon 12:30-9:00 so if it does arrive today I won't be doing more than a couple quick shots just to initially check it out.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on October 28, 2019, 02:36:01 PM
It's looking like I should have the gun today or tomorrow.
I have to work this afternoon 12:30-9:00 so if it does arrive today I won't be doing more than a couple quick shots just to initially check it out.
;) ;) ;D I have a couple pairs of leather chaps left from my riding days maybe I'll have to get one of those cowboy guns and I think I still have a really nice Stetson from the Danbury CT Stetson factory store I can dig them out for Halloween  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 28, 2019, 03:34:25 PM
It's looking like I should have the gun today or tomorrow.
I have to work this afternoon 12:30-9:00 so if it does arrive today I won't be doing more than a couple quick shots just to initially check it out.
;) ;) ;D I have a couple pairs of leather chaps left from my riding days maybe I'll have to get one of those cowboy guns and I think I still have a really nice Stetson from the Danbury CT Stetson factory store I can dig them out for Halloween  ;D ;D
Go for it.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on October 30, 2019, 04:22:28 PM
Well the tracking number said it should arrive on the 1st and it looks like they're going to make sure they weren't lying   ::)
It could easily have arrived yesterday , but then their estimation would be wrong and they can't have that can they  ;D
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on November 04, 2019, 02:14:52 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/G21fc6cW/IMG-20191104-093824546.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/67Yccj4c)
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First things first, the lever is some kind of ferrous cast metal.
A magnet will stick to it, not very strongly but it will stick.

Secondly the receiver is a vacuum metalized plastic, but it feels pretty thick and sturdy.

Third, there's loading pellets.
The chamber is really down in there and the bb hole is right there too.
With the way they designed it to look like a proper ejection port you can actually get the pellet right In there to the breech pretty easily but the whole thing takes some getting used to.

Pretty much everything about this gun is unorthodox, but I'm quickly getting used to it with every shot I take.
The grip is a real fat rectangle at 1.5" wide but it's not actually as bad as it seems if you leave your thumb on top of the gun when shooting.
The LOP is fine, but the comb is very low and while is hasn't yet because it's not a recoiling firearm it does feel like it'll want to slip off your shoulder.

The hammer you use as the safety actually works very well and is in not way awkward to operate, but for some reason I wish it went down as like a hammer when you fired.
It staying " cocked " just goes against everything we know in out brains about gun hammers and I keep trying to cock it every time.
The trigger is pretty darn good for what it is, and the sights are great too.
You do have to cock it before pumping, but you can de-cock the gun by riding the bolt home.

The last two things I want to mention.

I find it Interesting that it has " serial number " stamped into the gun next to the printed serial number.

And I like how the box reads " buy it today shoot it for years "  , it's kind od a fun play on the ol' " load it on Sunday and shoot all week " .
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on November 04, 2019, 11:18:53 PM
Tomorrow I'll try to punch some paper and see how it does, with some cphp's ( all I have right now ) but can't guarantee anything because I've got some other stuff to do and it's my only day off this week.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: 45Bravo on November 05, 2019, 09:00:14 AM
Pretty cool.

That’s not a Serial number.

It’s 16 digits and a letter.

A credit card only has 16 digits..

Why would they use that many digits on a new production gun?
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bavaria55n on November 05, 2019, 10:04:25 AM
Nice looking gun. Thanks for the reports. Looking for updates when you shoot it more
Gary
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on November 06, 2019, 04:27:55 PM
3 pumps, 10yds, CPHP's.
(https://i.postimg.cc/D0TRzyYj/IMG-20191106-122323217.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hc66ZHmX)
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: lefteyeshot on December 03, 2019, 11:46:37 PM
Just bought one at a Walmart in Walterboro, S.C. $59.00. W/tax $63.72. We'll see. Later.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 04, 2019, 05:52:20 AM
Just bought one at a Walmart in Walterboro, S.C. $59.00. W/tax $63.72. We'll see. Later.

I will buy one from Walmart for $59 because I can try it for up to 90 days and return it to a Walmart store if I do not like it.
The rifle does not show up on Walmart.com right now.
Please post the link if you find it on Walmart.com.
I would like to see Walmart and Amazon get into a "price war" on this gun.
I will call the local Walmart to see if they have them in stock.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 04, 2019, 07:24:38 AM
Geo Schoonmaker has 2 excellent YouTube videos on this gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZR9eBZFU-8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZR9eBZFU-8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZR9eBZFU-8&t=8s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZR9eBZFU-8&t=8s)
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on December 04, 2019, 09:56:42 AM
Please let me know if you guys have any issues with this gun. I do contracting work for Barra, so any constructive criticism you give me will find its way into future improvements on this gun or new models. You'll need to contact them for any warranty service, but if you have any questions, please feel free to call me or shoot me a PM. There's probably nobody that has been into and shot these guns more than I have, and I'll be happy to help you guys in any way I can.

Many people will find this one difficult to load pellets into, so you'll be happier with it if you have cross locking tweezers. I find the butt plate to be a tad slippery when I'm wearing a coat, so you really have to pay attention to your trigger pull and follow through when the weather is colder. It also doesn't have any way to mount a scope, so you will be limited to open sights. Aside from those negatives, I've had a blast with these guns and have taken many squirrels and chipmunks with them. These guns consistently shoot 1.1" to 1.3" CTC groups in my hands at 25 yards with a clean bore and bag rested. We are talking unmodified guns...  ;D

In all the models I've tested, RWS Superdomes, Superpoints, and Crosman wadcutters seem to do really well. If you experience inaccuracy out of the box, run a few patches down the bore. One of my test units wouldn't group for anything, turned out the bore was really oily. With a clean bore, it now shoots great.

Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: lefteyeshot on December 04, 2019, 10:13:26 AM
Just bought one at a Walmart in Walterboro, S.C. $59.00. W/tax $63.72. We'll see. Later.

I will buy one from Walmart for $59 because I can try it for up to 90 days and return it to a Walmart store if I do not like it.
The rifle does not show up on Walmart.com right now.
Please post the link if you find it on Walmart.com.
I would like to see Walmart and Amazon get into a "price war" on this gun.
I will call the local Walmart to see if they have them in stock.

No link--I was at that store delivering a computer part and walked back there to see any deals on a/g's, targets or scopes. The sales guy said he got them just that day. He said he was a also a gunsmith and an airgun guy. Has a Diana etc. He's looking at PCP.

I'm thinking barrel accessory mount and a pistol or scout scope.

A wood stock would be nice.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 04, 2019, 10:57:46 AM
Geo, do you think shooting steel BBs will damage the rifling in this gun?
How accurate are BBs in this gun?
I use plastic pointed tweezers to load pellets into my Daisy 880 and Crosman 2100.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on December 04, 2019, 11:28:25 AM
Geo, do you think shooting steel BBs will damage the rifling in this gun?
How accurate are BBs in this gun?
I use plastic pointed tweezers to load pellets into my Daisy 880 and Crosman 2100.

I've shot quite a few BBs through these and haven't experienced any accuracy loss with pellets. The accuracy of BBs in this gun is pretty much like any multipump with a rifled barrel - fine for plinking, not great for target shooting. Fewer pumps (1 to 2) seems to yield better results with BBs.

Most of the barrel damage I've personally witnessed with multipumps came from using substandard or possibly reused BBs. Combine that with copper plated BBs, moisture, improper lubricaton and care, and you'll end up with a pretty nasty barrel over the years. The Daisy model 35 is probably one of the best options in long gun format for shooting BBs currently on the market. Keep the speed under 400 fps, and you'll get surprisingly decent results at close range (5 to 8 yards).
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 04, 2019, 11:46:31 AM
Geo says:
"The Daisy model 35 is probably one of the best options in long gun format for shooting BBs currently on the market. Keep the speed under 400 fps, and you'll get surprisingly decent results at close range (5 to 8 yards)."

I agree with Geo.
My Daisy 35 is more accurate with BBs than my Daisy 880 and Crosman 2100.
Daisy BBs also seem to be more accurate than Crosman.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on December 04, 2019, 03:06:30 PM
Wow, I slacked off and my thread gained some traction.

I have found this gun to be unorthodox in many ways, but a fun one for sure.
The trigger is pretty decent and the sights are nice too.

I would rather see some kind of crossbolt safety going through the receiver and the bolt actuated via the hammer instead of the bolt handle throwing off the looks a bit.
The hammer could be linked to the bolt and you'd pull it back to open the bolt then push it forward.

Overall I'm happy with the gun, my biggest complaint is the butt of the stock.
It's slick and the angle is bad. That flat shoulder at the bottom makes it worse if the stock had a continuous curve it would be much better.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on December 04, 2019, 03:20:24 PM
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I would rather see some kind of crossbolt safety going through the trigger and the bolt actuated via the hammer instead of the bolt handle throwing off the looks a bit.
The hammer could be linked to the bolt and you'd pull it back to open the bolt then push it forward.

Good ideas!

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Overall I'm happy with the gun, my biggest complaint is the butt of the stock.
It's slick and the angle is bad. That flat shoulder at the bottom makes it worse if the stock had a continuous curve it would be much better.

I couldn't agree more. This wasn't an issue when I was testing preproduction models in 90+ degree heat. Stock stuck like glue to my sweat soaked t-shirt. Now it is cold and that stock slips on my coat. I've been working on a solution, as I absolutely hate missing shots.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 04, 2019, 04:17:34 PM
Are Barra and Bear River the same company?
My Bear River BR45 pistols are "MADE IN TAIWAN" and they are very good.
Where is the Barra Cowboy 1866 made?
The hammer could be part of the bolt and the gun would be loaded by pulling the hammer back and sliding it forward.  This would eliminate the bolt handle and act as a safety also.  The hammer would not need to pivot, just slide straight back.
There should be something you could put on the butt pad to make it stop slipping.  I am thinking honey or syrup or friction tape.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: lefteyeshot on December 04, 2019, 04:18:05 PM
Slip over rubber recoil pad for shooting. Pull off for showing off or display.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on December 04, 2019, 04:34:59 PM
Are Barra and Bear River the same company?
My Bear River BR45 pistols are "MADE IN TAIWAN" and they are very good.
Where is the Barra Cowboy 1866 made?
There should be something you could put on the butt pad to make it stop slipping.  I am thinking honey or syrup or friction tape.

They are owned by the same company, this link will explain it all: https://barraairguns.com/blogs/news/barra-airguns-launches-flagship-item-1866-cowboy-air-rifle (https://barraairguns.com/blogs/news/barra-airguns-launches-flagship-item-1866-cowboy-air-rifle)

I've got several squirrel hides tanning right now and am planning to make a leather butt cover from them  ;D
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 04, 2019, 05:04:21 PM
They are owned by the same company, this link will explain it all: https://barraairguns.com/blogs/news/barra-airguns-launches-flagship-item-1866-cowboy-air-rifle (https://barraairguns.com/blogs/news/barra-airguns-launches-flagship-item-1866-cowboy-air-rifle)

That link says the 1886 is sold by Walmart, but I cannot find it on Walmart.com.
Someone said they bought one from a Walmart in S.C. for $59.  I would like to get that deal because Walmart gives up to 90 days to return them if you do not like the gun.

Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on December 04, 2019, 05:21:40 PM
They are owned by the same company, this link will explain it all: https://barraairguns.com/blogs/news/barra-airguns-launches-flagship-item-1866-cowboy-air-rifle (https://barraairguns.com/blogs/news/barra-airguns-launches-flagship-item-1866-cowboy-air-rifle)

That link says the 1886 is sold by Walmart, but I cannot find it on Walmart.com.
Someone said they bought one from a Walmart in S.C. for $59.  I would like to get that deal because Walmart gives up to 90 days to return them if you do not like the gun.



They should be on the shelves by the end of this week in most stores. Walmart's new official policy on airgun returns is here: https://help.walmart.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3228#firearms (https://help.walmart.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3228#firearms), so you might want to double check with your local store before purchasing. They should have signage in place indicating that all airgun sales are final.  :'(
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 04, 2019, 09:50:45 PM
Geo is correct.

Walmart's return policy says:

Firearms

Sales of the following items are final and may not be returned:
All Firearms, Ammunition, and Pepper Spray
Air Guns/BB Guns
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: xtred1 on December 06, 2019, 09:52:25 PM
I just have to say way to go GEO!   It is fun having one of our own doing this kind of work.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: BackStop on December 06, 2019, 10:10:53 PM
For anyone interested here is the link to order them from Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Barra-1866-Cowboy-Air-Rifle/872596164 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Barra-1866-Cowboy-Air-Rifle/872596164)

As I post this, they are still $59, but they are "pickup only".   So you have to pick them up at a Walmart store.   They are not delivered/shipped to your address as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 07, 2019, 01:49:14 AM
For anyone interested here is the link to order them from Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Barra-1866-Cowboy-Air-Rifle/872596164 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Barra-1866-Cowboy-Air-Rifle/872596164)

As I post this, they are still $59, but they are "pickup only".   So you have to pick them up at a Walmart store.   They are not delivered/shipped to your address as far as I can tell.

Walmart shows "Out of Stock" and cannot be ordered.
So Walmart will sell them for $59.
Thanks BackStop.
I hope Amazon gets into a price war with Walmart on this one.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: BackStop on December 07, 2019, 01:53:56 AM
For anyone interested here is the link to order them from Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Barra-1866-Cowboy-Air-Rifle/872596164 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Barra-1866-Cowboy-Air-Rifle/872596164)

As I post this, they are still $59, but they are "pickup only".   So you have to pick them up at a Walmart store.   They are not delivered/shipped to your address as far as I can tell.

Walmart shows "Out of Stock" and cannot be ordered.
Thanks BackStop.

I just checked, and I can order it ($59+tax), but it can only be picked up at the local Walmart. 


What you are seeing may have something to do with location and the individual Walmart store you have set as "Your Store" on the Walmart site.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on December 09, 2019, 07:53:59 AM
I was in a Walmart yesterday having a new tire put on my trailer. They had an end cap of them for sale at the $59.99 price. I was able to resist.
Reason being.... I really don't like all the plastic.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Back_Roads on December 09, 2019, 08:16:37 AM
 IMO the gun would be way too heavy if not for the plastic  ???
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on December 09, 2019, 08:21:02 AM
No more than a 2100 w/wood. I have several and they are quite comfortable to handle.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on December 10, 2019, 07:55:33 PM
I was in a Walmart yesterday having a new tire put on my trailer. They had an end cap of them for sale at the $59.99 price. I was able to resist.
Reason being.... I really don't like all the plastic.
I'd rather have it your way as well, but the gun does feel solid.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on December 11, 2019, 08:14:34 AM
OK fine....
With Betty Lou's blessing I bought one as a stocking stuffer for myself. It is instore pickup only... no delivery option. We have to make a run to Troy for dog food anyways. Betty Lou opted for a new cast iron skillet set. She is donating her old one to the shooting range. Can't wait to hit that 12" one with the Sumatra...  ;D
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on December 11, 2019, 02:50:31 PM
OK fine....
With Betty Lou's blessing I bought one as a stocking stuffer for myself. It is instore pickup only... no delivery option. We have to make a run to Troy for dog food anyways. Betty Lou opted for a new cast iron skillet set. She is donating her old one to the shooting range. Can't wait to hit that 12" one with the Sumatra...  ;D
I hope she went for some American lodge iron and not the horrid Chinese store brand stuff, you just never know what the Chinese are really putting In their iron.
Sure Lodge iron is a bit heavy but the thin bottomed Chinese iron doesn't retain heat worth a darn.
Besides I hear nobody has iron as pure as we do here in the US  ;)

Oh and I'm glad you decided to try one, I think you'll be surprised by the trigger. It's one I've felt no need to mess with.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on December 11, 2019, 06:04:06 PM
Not Lodge so it's probably some Chinese stuff.... It's all good, Betty Lou abuses it anyways. I tried to tell her how to keep it seasons and was quickly banished from the kitchen. Fine with me, I'll just keep accepting the targets.

Walmart says the gun is ready for pickup.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: BackStop on December 11, 2019, 06:06:07 PM
Not Lodge so it's probably some Chinese stuff.... It's all good, Betty Lou abuses it anyways. I tried to tell her how to keep it seasons and was quickly banished from the kitchen. Fine with me, I'll just keep accepting the targets.

Walmart says the gun is ready for pickup.

The cast iron cookware I have is all vintage.   I would never part with it.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Back_Roads on December 11, 2019, 06:25:54 PM
 Spent some time shooting mine today, seems to do fine with old winchester pellets. I added a section of very thin fiber optic rod to the front sight, was a slightly loose fit through the small loop hole in the metal front sight. Also thought the rear sight windage adjustment to be quite handy, I thought I would have to loosen the phillips screw and manually move the sight, but it turns out that turning the screw moves the sight to where you want it adjusted, and it stays where you leave it. Also gave it a going over and stuffed pellet tin shipping foam in the hollow stock, and snugged up any loose screws.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on December 17, 2019, 12:26:23 PM
OK fine....
With Betty Lou's blessing I bought one as a stocking stuffer for myself. It is instore pickup only... no delivery option. We have to make a run to Troy for dog food anyways. Betty Lou opted for a new cast iron skillet set. She is donating her old one to the shooting range. Can't wait to hit that 12" one with the Sumatra...  ;D
I hope she went for some American lodge iron and not the horrid Chinese store brand stuff, you just never know what the Chinese are really putting In their iron.
Sure Lodge iron is a bit heavy but the thin bottomed Chinese iron doesn't retain heat worth a darn.
Besides I hear nobody has iron as pure as we do here in the US  ;)

Oh and I'm glad you decided to try one, I think you'll be surprised by the trigger. It's one I've felt no need to mess with.
You're right about the Chinese cast Iron a few years back I had to deal with an Installation of Governale cast Iron baseboard that was cracking in non stress points on about 20 pieces of various lengths up to about 8ft. This was installed in an apartment in the Dakota , John Lennon lived there. Jue customer was not happy and when the baseboard was examined the experts determined that both the quality of the castings and the iron was inferior.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on December 17, 2019, 12:39:33 PM
I've decided that my 1866 is going to be a dedicated bb gun.
Reasons being;
No scope rail.... With open sights I can't accomplish pin point accuracy anyhow so bb shooting will be good enough. I don't intend to drill and mount anything on the gun to add a scope.

Single loading pellets... I already have this covered with our metal/metal scoped 880 guns who's accuracy with the scopes make single loading pellets worth the trouble.

Looks... I love the looks of the rifle as it is.

Unique.. I don't really have a real nice dedicated bb pumper.

I hope everyone enjoys their Barra Cowboy 1866 in what ever capacity they choose to use them in. I'm happy with my purchase.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 17, 2019, 02:29:31 PM
I've decided that my 1866 is going to be a dedicated bb gun.
Reasons being;
No scope rail.... With open sights I can't accomplish pin point accuracy anyhow so bb shooting will be good enough. I don't intend to drill and mount anything on the gun to add a scope.

Single loading pellets... I already have this covered with our metal/metal scoped 880 guns who's accuracy with the scopes make single loading pellets worth the trouble.

Looks... I love the looks of the rifle as it is.

Unique.. I don't really have a real nice dedicated bb pumper.

I hope everyone enjoys their Barra Cowboy 1866 in what ever capacity they choose to use them in. I'm happy with my purchase.

I may shoot a lot of BBs in mine also.
One pump for BBs gives 293 fps so 2 pumps should be about 375 fps.
I may just sight it in with BBs with 1 or 2 pumps depending on which is the most accurate.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on December 17, 2019, 03:16:41 PM
Sounds good to me Earl. 4 or 5 pumps tops for me. Like I said, it's a good looking rifle just hanging on the wall.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on December 17, 2019, 05:24:13 PM
My 1866 is hanging on the wall in my room and YES it does look good.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: DavidinTennessee on December 29, 2019, 07:36:39 PM
The Barra Cowboy is on sale for pick up only at Walmart for 59.95. Not bad.. I think my Smith and Wesson 77A will do for my Cowboy pellet gun fetish.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Jim Stephens on February 29, 2020, 01:26:24 AM
i have had 2 of them , they shoot real well ,but the metal covered receiver cracks real easy around the screws on both sides of the receiver, and as stated it takes some getting use to but it does shoot true. also do not use bbs they will jam, dust devils sound but they jam also , if you must use a bb use the copper coated lead ones , they do work with out jaming and wont tear out the rifling. still it is a cool looking gun,  you might also find this gun at walmart for just under 60.00 bucks , and no shipping . it does have a 1yr. warrenty not 30 days.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Back_Roads on February 29, 2020, 10:09:01 AM
Spent some time shooting mine today, seems to do fine with old winchester pellets. I added a section of very thin fiber optic rod to the front sight, was a slightly loose fit through the small loop hole in the metal front sight. Also thought the rear sight windage adjustment to be quite handy, I thought I would have to loosen the phillips screw and manually move the sight, but it turns out that turning the screw moves the sight to where you want it adjusted, and it stays where you leave it. Also gave it a going over and stuffed pellet tin shipping foam in the hollow stock, and snugged up any loose screws.
I have since added aTang sight to mine really helps with accuracy, also added a GEO LDC that slips in to replace the original front sight and has a better post with circle to line things up real nice, almost like a low power scope.
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Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: lefteyeshot on February 29, 2020, 03:07:28 PM
I found I can load pellets with a pair of tweezers easy enough.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Earl on February 29, 2020, 09:34:44 PM
I found I can load pellets with a pair of tweezers easy enough.

I use plastic pointed tweezers to load my Barra Cowboy, Daisy 880 and Crosman 2100.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on March 03, 2020, 08:43:16 AM
Mine looks great hanging on the wall...  :-\

To be honest... it's worth what I paid for it.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Jim Stephens on March 07, 2020, 05:02:29 PM
Hi Guys , i have had 2 of these , so far and both have had some serious problems, ahd to send them back , wich takes for ever to get rma tag and then get a replacement , was told that the second gen would be out soon and they would send one to me when they came in ..still waiting for it to show wp . most of my problems were with the receiver and the loading port, what i did find was that the rifle was very accurate with was cutters , and that inside 30 ft. and full pump it will even take out a rather large jack rabbit.  it does pump easy , handles well and looks great. slippage on the butt plate was contained with a strip of sergical  tape , comes off easy with rubbing alcohol . i realy like this one and my grandkids think it is the greatest , i am back in there good graces becaus of it. AND I LIKE THE FEELING. Jim
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Chris USA on March 30, 2020, 12:51:07 PM
Been awhile since I have been on GTA. I just picked one of these up at Walmart. Looks nice out of the box. Has some heft. Well worth the 60$.

(( Who is going to go "inside" first? I would like to see if that trigger could be made lighter. I would also like to find an exploded view of one. ))

The front sight is too narrow. I have a tuff time with opens. I did put 10 pellets through it today. Not bad.

I have a Maximus .22 and did the trigger on it. MUCH better. Looking forwards to playing with the Barra more.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: lefteyeshot on March 30, 2020, 07:04:13 PM
I'm thinking pistol or scout scope on the barrel. Humm.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Back_Roads on March 30, 2020, 08:09:29 PM
 Get the GEO Snap on LDC it replaces the the barrel support and takes the pop out of the shot cycle, also stabilizes the barrel better, and has a better / adjustable with a file front sight with globe.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Sephroth_I_am on May 18, 2020, 11:43:40 PM
I just got my barra 1866 today and I have a couple of questions. First what's Geo LDC and how can I get one? Second what is a good cleaning kit for this gun? Thanks.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on May 18, 2020, 11:53:25 PM
See your PM for info on the LDC. For cleaning these, you just need some small patches and a length of weed eater line. I use an old pellet tin to store everything in. Open your bolt and turn your gun upside down to keep crud from going in the transfer port. Push a dry patch through with the weed eater line to get the big stuff out. Push a few patches soaked with 91% rubbing alcohol through, followed by some dry patches. Do this until the patches come clean. If you are storing your 1866 afterwards, push a lightly oiled patch through to protect the steel. Otherwise, shooting will produce enough oil mist from the pump to keep it protected.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Sephroth_I_am on May 20, 2020, 01:56:15 AM
Any thoughts about mounting a picatinny rail on the receiver and putting a scope on? Would the plastic hold the rail and scope?
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on May 20, 2020, 08:35:47 AM
Any thoughts about mounting a picatinny rail on the receiver and putting a scope on? Would the plastic hold the rail and scope?

I actually had someone send me his rifle this last week so I could put a custom dovetail scope rail on it for him. The plastic will hold a smaller scope on it. I'd keep it down to a cheap 3-9x32 or smaller, or a red dot sight:

(https://www.airgununiverse.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/1866scope.jpg)
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: birdmove on May 20, 2020, 02:41:23 PM
     That scope looks like it might be an NCStar 4x30 Compact scope? I have one if it is.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on May 20, 2020, 04:12:09 PM
     That scope looks like it might be an NCStar 4x30 Compact scope? I have one if it is.
It is probably very similar to what your have. It is sold as a 4x32 under the CV Life brand. It is my favorite cheap scope for multipumps.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Chris USA on May 20, 2020, 04:22:00 PM
Any thoughts about mounting a picatinny rail on the receiver and putting a scope on? Would the plastic hold the rail and scope?

I actually had someone send me his rifle this last week so I could put a custom dovetail scope rail on it for him. The plastic will hold a smaller scope on it. I'd keep it down to a cheap 3-9x32 or smaller, or a red dot sight:

Geo,

Very nice job! Drill and tap the plastic? Screw size/type? How thick is the plastic? Nothing "just under" the surface to get in the way? 2 screws to mount the rail? This is something I would VERY seriously consider doing as I have one and have difficulty with the opens.

Thank you in advance for any further info. that you may provide,......... Chris

(https://www.airgununiverse.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/1866scope.jpg)
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on May 20, 2020, 04:52:47 PM
There are 6 holes that have to be drilled and tapped into the rail / receiver. I used 6 set screws, they are m4-0.7 thread. 3.5mm of thread engagement in the rail and 2.5 in the receiver. Half the screws secure to the left hand, the other on the right. I use just a tiny dab of superglue on the threads so they'll stay in place, but not so much they can't be removed. I also use superglue under the rail on the left hand side, since there's no need for the rail to come off there.

Here's a 5 shot group, the weather conditions were horrible, but I timed my shots between wind gusts:

(https://www.airgununiverse.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_20200517_173128.jpg)

As long as you don't use a huge, heavy scope, this setup is plenty sturdy for the job, probably better than most plastic multipumps, since the two halves are now tied together.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Chris USA on May 20, 2020, 05:41:18 PM
There are 6 holes that have to be drilled and tapped into the rail / receiver. I used 6 set screws, they are m4-0.7 thread. 3.5mm of thread engagement in the rail and 2.5 in the receiver. Half the screws secure to the left hand, the other on the right. I use just a tiny dab of superglue on the threads so they'll stay in place, but not so much they can't be removed. I also use superglue under the rail on the left hand side, since there's no need for the rail to come off there.

Here's a 5 shot group, the weather conditions were horrible, but I timed my shots between wind gusts:

(https://www.airgununiverse.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/IMG_20200517_173128.jpg)

As long as you don't use a huge, heavy scope, this setup is plenty sturdy for the job, probably better than most plastic multipumps, since the two halves are now tied together.

Geo,

Thank you. Notes made. Nice shooting. I think that beats anything I have seen on You-tube reviews at 25 yards! :)

Chris
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on May 20, 2020, 06:21:22 PM
I fully tuned the rifle, so it was far from stock when it shot that group. The trigger was worked over, a hammer spring guide installed, the barrel cleaned and stabilized, the compression ratio was increased, the o-rings upgraded, and all factory lubrication was replaced.

With all that work, 7 pumps will give you the factory spec max velocity (with alloy pellets like they use). It will also handle 12 pumps safely which has those alloys going 950 to 955 fps. Naturally, lead pellets are a better option and the mods push it to about 12 fpe.

An even better option than a scope mount is installing peep sights. I installed a set of Williams peeps on my personal rifle, and get very good accuracy with those. If you haven't tried peep sights, I can highly recommend giving them a try. Here's how I installed them on mine: https://www.airgununiverse.net/wp/installing-peeps-on-the-barra-1866/ (https://www.airgununiverse.net/wp/installing-peeps-on-the-barra-1866/).

I've taken a lot of game with that setup.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Back_Roads on May 20, 2020, 10:34:36 PM
 I had GEO make a LDC with a globe front sight, and added a tang sight to the receiver.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/MGalleryItem.php?id=7058)
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005862847 (https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005862847)
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: 35 shooter on May 20, 2020, 11:23:25 PM
They really are nice looking rifles!
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Chris USA on May 21, 2020, 06:27:48 AM
Geo,

I have a 499 that has the Red Ryder spring mod. done (I did it). A real tack driver and boosted the fps 150. I LOVE the peeps on it. I saved your site and we may be in touch.

Did you cut away the 11mm rail at the loading port? Kind of looks like it from the pic, but can't tell for sure. I can't do that, but can drill and tap fine. All hand though,... no machine shop.

Here is thought,.... how about those 3M and Scotch wall picture hanging sticky tabs? You hang a picture up but can pull the hanger off the wall later with no harm. Maybe an option in some applications?

Back Roads,

Nice job. I may get one of those front sights yet. I like peep sights. Where did you get the rail to moun to and how did you do that front screw with the receiver split being there?

Fine job fellas,.............  Chris
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on May 21, 2020, 09:04:13 AM
The rail is 3D printed and does have a cutout already designed into it.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bantam5s on June 07, 2020, 07:52:17 PM
I actually don't shoot mine much at all, I just don't like the butt of the stock.
Everything about it is all wrong and I feel like they didn't do enough testing when designing it.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on June 07, 2020, 08:26:20 PM
That skinny pump arm makes me nervous. But again, looks good hanging on the wall.
One day I'll get me a real Henry rifle and this thing can be passed along to a kid or something.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: lillysdad621 on June 07, 2020, 10:36:24 PM
 this thing can be passed along to a kid or something

My wife says always that is act like a kid... do i qualify??? lol
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Chris USA on June 08, 2020, 07:08:33 AM
I like mine and it seems well built. I have not shot it much. I have issues with open sights. After looking at scoping options (here),... I will get a 4" 11mm rail and use those wall hanger sticky tabs to mount and mount a cheap, light scope on it. The cheap scopes can work quite well if the front lens is manually turned in (or out?) to get better short range focus. Did it before and worked great on an 880.

I also took some stiff foam and custom fit an insert to block the bb area and to keep a pellet from getting in there. Still,... a pain to load. I have some hobby craft tweezers that work opposite of normal tweezers. When you let go, they close and hold. The blades are crossed and have curved tips. They are great and highly recommend them to any one. About 4 1/2" long.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on June 08, 2020, 07:19:15 AM
I like mine and it seems well built. I have not shot it much. I have issues with open sights. After looking at scoping options (here),... I will get a 4" 11mm rail and use those wall hanger sticky tabs to mount and mount a cheap, light scope on it. The cheap scopes can work quite well if the front lens is manually turned in (or out?) to get better short range focus. Did it before and worked great on an 880.

I also took some stiff foam and custom fit an insert to block the bb area and to keep a pellet from getting in there. Still,... a pain to load. I have some hobby craft tweezers that work opposite of normal tweezers. When you let go, they close and hold. The blades are crossed and have curved tips. They are great and highly recommend them to any one. About 4 1/2" long.
I have a couple of those type tweezers in my shooting box as well... I use them on guns such as the 2100.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Ronno6 on June 08, 2020, 01:33:14 PM
Just picked one up at wallaceville for $59 and change.........
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Chris USA on June 14, 2020, 10:06:33 AM
Geo,

Have you run across an exploded view diagram of an 1866? Have you tried to search it if not? I am wondering if any of the side plate screws might suffice for an L mount plate mounting which then an 11mm dovetail might be mounted to.

I am considering getting one of your LDC's with hooded front sight,... but still not sure I could use it well enough with the open rear sight.

I have a 499 and love the peeps on that and can use them very well.

While I not afraid at all to tear into it,... I generally like to have at least an idea of what's inside before doing so. The 2 rear screws in the receiver, left side (or right), look like an ideal spot to mount a bracket that a peep could be mounted to. I have had the M-rod down as well as the 499 and a TX200. Plus the trigger unit on a Maximus.

I have yet to get a cheap scope and a 11mm rail. I was going to try the 3M wall hanger sticky tabs as a mount. Then,... I thought of how that might cover the already difficult loading port. I have limited tools, but am quite handy. (no mills, lathes and such, or drill press)

Any thoughts?,............ Chris
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: a1rgunz on June 14, 2020, 10:20:44 AM
Hi Chris,
I haven't received a diagram of the 1866 yet, but I do have one for the Sportsman 900 which is nearly the same setup with a different exterior shell. Just PM me and I'll help you access it. They are very simple, so you'll feel at home pretty quickly given the other airguns you been into.
I've recently made a wider post front sight LDC that works better with the stock rear sight. I can also add a fiber optic rod for shooters that like those.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Ronno6 on June 20, 2020, 05:19:03 PM
An 1866 in the box popped up on the "bay" for a BIN of 30 bucks plus....gat this.....$2.00 shipping.
I await the tracking #..........
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Back_Roads on June 20, 2020, 08:45:26 PM
An 1866 in the box popped up on the "bay" for a BIN of 30 bucks plus....gat this.....$2.00 shipping.
I await the tracking #..........
Cool Deal fun long pumper fer sure :)
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bavaria55n on June 21, 2020, 03:21:48 PM
An 1866 in the box popped up on the "bay" for a BIN of 30 bucks plus....gat this.....$2.00 shipping.
I await the tracking #..........

That was a great deal!
Gary
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Ronno6 on June 21, 2020, 07:32:08 PM
Hopefully a great deal....hasn't shipped yet.
Seller said PO required him to wrap the box so it wasn't apparent it is a BB gun......never heard that B-4...
Frankly, i'll be pleasantly surprised if it ships..............good $$ to begin with, and NUTTIN ships for 2 bucks.....

Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on June 21, 2020, 07:54:17 PM
Hopefully a great deal....hasn't shipped yet.
Seller said PO required him to wrap the box so it wasn't apparent it is a BB gun......never heard that B-4...
Frankly, i'll be pleasantly surprised if it ships..............good $$ to begin with, and NUTTIN ships for 2 bucks.....
Pretty cleaver excuse if it is a scam.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Ronno6 on June 23, 2020, 09:27:30 AM
No tracking # as yet, and no reply to my query of yesterday.
I think someone got a dose of reality with regard to shipping cost.....
The seller is a relative novice, only 2 feedback ratings, both as a buyer.
I have a suspicion that his first sale is going to result in his first negative feedback.........but, here's hoping.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: bavaria55n on June 23, 2020, 10:36:39 AM
Hopefully a great deal....hasn't shipped yet.
Seller said PO required him to wrap the box so it wasn't apparent it is a BB gun......never heard that B-4...
Frankly, i'll be pleasantly surprised if it ships..............good $$ to begin with, and NUTTIN ships for 2 bucks.....
Pretty cleaver excuse if it is a scam.

I don't know if it is a regulation for them or not but I had one clerk ask about a shipment I made because it was in a BB gun box.
Told him it was not a BB gun (actually it was an antique rifle) and he accepted it.
Gary
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Ronno6 on June 23, 2020, 10:49:47 AM
According to the queries I have made at the PO, they employ a "don't ask. don't tell" policy.
They ask about hazardous, flammable liquids, etc, but that's about it.....

I have received many,many pellet guns shipped in unwrapped pellet gun boxes,
I even had A of Az ship me a Sterling HR83 in the original box, and ruined the box by covering with tape....

I had one seller cancel a transaction for a Daisy 901 because he couldn't get any "pack and ship" place to tale it,
but he did not and would not take it directly to a Post Office................

When sellers feel they have not got enough $$$ for an item, thy get creative on ways to back out of it and make it appear to be beyond their control..
There is no sense of personal responsibility in the world these days........."Not MY fault...."
But, I digress...........
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Ronno6 on June 23, 2020, 02:03:52 PM
Tracking # received!
PO has ir.
Now, let's hope he didn't ship a box of Good 'N Plenty instead..........
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on June 23, 2020, 03:46:43 PM
I don't know.... I kinda like Good 'N Plenty.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Ronno6 on June 23, 2020, 04:31:50 PM
I don't know.... I kinda like Good 'N Plenty.

ROLL TIDE
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on June 23, 2020, 04:38:19 PM
LOL..... actually I'm a displaced Ohioan..... Go Bucks!!

... and that's about the only thing 'Yankee' left about me.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Ronno6 on June 23, 2020, 04:46:30 PM
LOL..... actually I'm a displaced Ohioan..... Go Bucks!!

... and that's about the only thing 'Yankee' left about me.

I'm OK with that.......as long as you don't favor the other Alabama "team" from the plains........
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on June 23, 2020, 05:38:55 PM
LOL..... actually I'm a displaced Ohioan..... Go Bucks!!

... and that's about the only thing 'Yankee' left about me.

I'm OK with that.......as long as you don't favor the other Alabama "team" from the plains........
No danger of that.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Ronno6 on June 26, 2020, 03:50:53 PM
The $32.00 Barra 1886 has arrived.
It appears to be new!
Shoots,too!
All is well here in Dixie !
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on June 26, 2020, 04:13:25 PM
Purty, ain't she?
Unfortunately, she looks much better than she performs.... in my opinion. However, at $32... you done good.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on June 26, 2020, 04:14:59 PM
The downside.... she makes me want to buy a Henry Golden Boy.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Back_Roads on June 26, 2020, 10:26:36 PM
 LOL A friend just stopped by tonight and saw the Barra 1866 leaning in the corner, first thing out of his mouth is that a Henry ... as he is picking it up :)
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: avator on June 27, 2020, 07:41:37 AM
LOL A friend just stopped by tonight and saw the Barra 1866 leaning in the corner, first thing out of his mouth is that a Henry ... as he is picking it up :)
My friend down the road (Killer) said the same thing when he saw mine. matter of, that's why I bought the gun in the first place.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: brewbear on April 08, 2021, 01:25:10 AM
Spent some time shooting mine today, seems to do fine with old winchester pellets. I added a section of very thin fiber optic rod to the front sight, was a slightly loose fit through the small loop hole in the metal front sight. Also thought the rear sight windage adjustment to be quite handy, I thought I would have to loosen the phillips screw and manually move the sight, but it turns out that turning the screw moves the sight to where you want it adjusted, and it stays where you leave it. Also gave it a going over and stuffed pellet tin shipping foam in the hollow stock, and snugged up any loose screws.
I have since added aTang sight to mine really helps with accuracy, also added a GEO LDC that slips in to replace the original front sight and has a better post with circle to line things up real nice, almost like a low power scope.
[smg id=7058]
A little late to the party, but may I ask Which tang sight did you use?
Many thanks
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Sfttailrdr46 on April 08, 2021, 08:19:21 AM
I keep looking at the Henery as well I just haven't decided on a caliber yet. As far as replicas I like the Co2 Umarex version. I do wish they would do a pellet version with a rifled barrel  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: Back_Roads on April 08, 2021, 08:28:11 AM
Spent some time shooting mine today, seems to do fine with old winchester pellets. I added a section of very thin fiber optic rod to the front sight, was a slightly loose fit through the small loop hole in the metal front sight. Also thought the rear sight windage adjustment to be quite handy, I thought I would have to loosen the phillips screw and manually move the sight, but it turns out that turning the screw moves the sight to where you want it adjusted, and it stays where you leave it. Also gave it a going over and stuffed pellet tin shipping foam in the hollow stock, and snugged up any loose screws.
I have since added aTang sight to mine really helps with accuracy, also added a GEO LDC that slips in to replace the original front sight and has a better post with circle to line things up real nice, almost like a low power scope.
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A little late to the party, but may I ask Which tang sight did you use?
Many thanks
Lyman No. 2 Tang Sight for Winchester Model 94 , I used one original screw in the stock, and added one to the rear solid. The sight cost more than the rifle, but that's my rule for scopes in many cases also.
Title: Re: Barra cowboy series 1866 MSP air rifle
Post by: brewbear on April 08, 2021, 11:05:00 AM
Spent some time shooting mine today, seems to do fine with old winchester pellets. I added a section of very thin fiber optic rod to the front sight, was a slightly loose fit through the small loop hole in the metal front sight. Also thought the rear sight windage adjustment to be quite handy, I thought I would have to loosen the phillips screw and manually move the sight, but it turns out that turning the screw moves the sight to where you want it adjusted, and it stays where you leave it. Also gave it a going over and stuffed pellet tin shipping foam in the hollow stock, and snugged up any loose screws.
I have since added aTang sight to mine really helps with accuracy, also added a GEO LDC that slips in to replace the original front sight and has a better post with circle to line things up real nice, almost like a low power scope.
[smg id=7058]
A little late to the party, but may I ask Which tang sight did you use?
Many thanks
Lyman No. 2 Tang Sight for Winchester Model 94 , I used one original screw in the stock, and added one to the rear solid. The sight cost more than the rifle, but that's my rule for scopes in many cases also.
Thank you for the reply, I'm off looking for a tang sight! It feels like putting a 200 dollars saddle on a 20 dollar horse, but I like this horse and I always like tang sights!