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Covid Strikes Again
« on: May 04, 2021, 10:57:11 PM »
My wife's employer, an attorney, passed away three hours ago from Covid. He had been on a ventilator for less than 24 hours and in the hospital for three weeks. His wife is in the same hospital suffering from covid, about to go on a ventilator as well.
The attorney and his wife are approximately the same age as my wife and I (66). Prior to the infection they were otherwise healthy with no underlying problems. They chose not to vaccinate.
My wife chose not to vaccinate. She caught covid from her employer. She will survive.
I chose vaccination when my age group was selected for vaccination. I have not become a victim and have tested negative as have the other folks in my wife's office that chose vaccination. My wife and all her co-workers are now unemployed.
I thank the good lord for my wife's blessing, grieve for Ben, and pray for his wife. It is however, a difficult pill to swallow, the consequence and uneccesary waste of humanity for refusing a vaccination.
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2021, 11:46:37 PM »
I'm sorry for all that loss. It is just such an unnecessary tragedy. People with no health condition who refuse the vaccine just defy logic. It makes no sense.
There was a big thread here recently by an anti vaxer and I'm sure he'll be back to tell us why it shouldn't matter. But your situation is just another of the thousands of reasons why it does matter. We can relegate this  virus to no different than other viruses if more people would pull their head out of you-know-where and get the shots.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2021, 03:22:20 PM »
Over half a million have died from the virus. I haven't heard of any deaths from the vaccine.
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Re: Covid Strikes Again
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2021, 03:43:52 PM »
People tend to fear the unknown. Betty Lou and I are both vaccinated. We are also of the mindset that people should be able to make their own choices.
Bottom line... take your chances with the virus which has definite statistics or take your chances with the vaccination where the jury is still out on long term affects.
The deciding factor for us was... if we didn't do something to make an attempt at being part of the solution then we would most likely end up being part of the problem. We chose not to put ourselves above others.
That said, we do not judge others for their decisions. We continue to mask up and social distance.
Different people have different reasons to not wear a mask, to not take the shots. I don't claim to know all of the reasons. Frankly, it's none of my business. Lots of things in this world that I don't know all the details about and without all the details it's impossible to make the absolute right decision. So all we can do is what's right for us based on we know about us.
I don't go around stomping my foot at folks for making their choice and I dam sure don't want to see anyone stomping theirs at me. That's when I get bent up.
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Re: Covid Strikes Again
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2021, 03:59:44 PM »
People tend to fear the unknown. Betty Lou and I are both vaccinated. We are also of the mindset that people should be able to make their own choices.
Bottom line... take your chances with the virus which has definite statistics or take your chances with the vaccination where the jury is still out on long term affects.
The deciding factor for us was... if we didn't do something to make an attempt at being part of the solution then we would most likely end up being part of the problem. We chose not to put ourselves above others.
That said, we do not judge others for their decisions. We continue to mask up and social distance.
Different people have different reasons to not wear a mask, to not take the shots. I don't claim to know all of the reasons. Frankly, it's none of my business. Lots of things in this world that I don't know all the details about and without all the details it's impossible to make the absolute right decision. So all we can do is what's right for us based on we know about us.
I don't go around stomping my foot at folks for making their choice and I dam sure don't want to see anyone stomping theirs at me. That's when I get bent up.

Very well put !! sorry for the loss of life but here in America we have the ability to chose for ourselves.  I am sick cancer and diabiates and I am old... I chose to say no thank you and I am at risk.  When one gets up in the morning you are at risk period !!
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Re: Covid Strikes Again
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2021, 04:08:25 PM »
People tend to fear the unknown. Betty Lou and I are both vaccinated. We are also of the mindset that people should be able to make their own choices.
Bottom line... take your chances with the virus which has definite statistics or take your chances with the vaccination where the jury is still out on long term affects.
The deciding factor for us was... if we didn't do something to make an attempt at being part of the solution then we would most likely end up being part of the problem. We chose not to put ourselves above others.
That said, we do not judge others for their decisions. We continue to mask up and social distance.
Different people have different reasons to not wear a mask, to not take the shots. I don't claim to know all of the reasons. Frankly, it's none of my business. Lots of things in this world that I don't know all the details about and without all the details it's impossible to make the absolute right decision. So all we can do is what's right for us based on we know about us.
I don't go around stomping my foot at folks for making their choice and I dam sure don't want to see anyone stomping theirs at me. That's when I get bent up.

Very well put !! sorry for the loss of life but here in America we have the ability to chose for ourselves.  I am sick cancer and diabiates and I am old... I chose to say no thank you and I am at risk.  When one gets up in the morning you are at risk period !!
Love one another and shoot straight
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Re: Covid Strikes Again
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2021, 04:09:08 PM »
People tend to fear the unknown. Betty Lou and I are both vaccinated. We are also of the mindset that people should be able to make their own choices.
Bottom line... take your chances with the virus which has definite statistics or take your chances with the vaccination where the jury is still out on long term affects.
The deciding factor for us was... if we didn't do something to make an attempt at being part of the solution then we would most likely end up being part of the problem. We chose not to put ourselves above others.
That said, we do not judge others for their decisions. We continue to mask up and social distance.
Different people have different reasons to not wear a mask, to not take the shots. I don't claim to know all of the reasons. Frankly, it's none of my business. Lots of things in this world that I don't know all the details about and without all the details it's impossible to make the absolute right decision. So all we can do is what's right for us based on we know about us.
I don't go around stomping my foot at folks for making their choice and I dam sure don't want to see anyone stomping theirs at me. That's when I get bent up.

Very well put !! sorry for the loss of life but here in America we have the ability to chose for ourselves.  I am sick cancer and diabiates and I am old... I chose to say no thank you and I am at risk.  When one gets up in the morning you are at risk period !!
Love one another and shoot straight
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Re: Covid Strikes Again
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2021, 04:14:24 PM »
Made their choice and paid the ultimate price. It's the "ripple effect" of those choices and the impact on innocent others that angers me.
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2021, 04:18:52 PM »
Made their choice and paid the ultimate price. It's the "ripple effect" of those choices and the impact on innocent others that angers me.

when one gets angery.. ones brain tends to function less tan it could otherwise.  Too much emotion is never a good thing.  That said I do understand
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2021, 04:22:20 PM »
Artie.... just curious..
Does your wife now question her choice not to vaccinate?
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2021, 06:02:58 PM »
     My wife's irony was she had finally decided to vaccinate when she became ill. The first few days were nothing more than sniffles, runny nose, and occasional coughing. North Carolina was at the height of the Spring bloom then and pollen blanketed the area. Her symptoms were like an allergy. She had an appointment for vaccination when I warned her about being rejected because of her symptons so I suggested she be tested. She tested positive and things went downhill quick. She will now be elgible for vaccination in 90 days.
     People do have choices but in my experience, the more responsibility someone has, the greater the consequences of a wrong decision. I spent nearly thirty years in combat arms. Key to our success was force protection. Force protection includes preventive healthcare. Vaccination is a very important part of preventive healthcare. At least it was when I was on active duty. We fought as a team, so we either won as a team or we lost as a team. It would of never crossed our minds to opt out of a vaccine that could protect us from a disease that would jeopardize the mission and harm the team.
In my humble opinion an employer is the civilian equivalent of the commander of a team. A strong commander must lead from the front and that means leading by example.
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Re: Covid Strikes Again
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2021, 06:13:14 PM »
     My wife's irony was she had finally decided to vaccinate when she became ill. The first few days were nothing more than sniffles, runny nose, and occasional coughing. North Carolina was at the height of the Spring bloom then and pollen blanketed the area. Her symptoms were like an allergy. She had an appointment for vaccination when I warned her about being rejected because of her symptons so I suggested she be tested. She tested positive and things went downhill quick. She will now be elgible for vaccination in 90 days.
     People do have choices but in my experience, the more responsibility someone has, the greater the consequences of a wrong decision. I spent nearly thirty years in combat arms. Key to our success was force protection. Force protection includes preventive healthcare. Vaccination is a very important part of preventive healthcare. At least it was when I was on active duty. We fought as a team, so we either won as a team or we lost as a team. It would of never crossed our minds to opt out of a vaccine that could protect us from a disease that would jeopardize the mission and harm the team.
In my humble opinion an employer is the civilian equivalent of the commander of a team. A strong commander must lead from the front and that means leading by example.

Thank you for your service Art... but please note 40 percent of Marines do not want the jab..
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2021, 06:17:10 PM »
A sad story, that unfortunately will become all too common when vaccinations stop before herd immunity is reached.... simply because people feel their personal freedoms outweigh their social responsibility to others....  :'(

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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2021, 06:25:38 PM »
A sad story, that unfortunately will become all too common when vaccinations stop before herd immunity is reached.... simply because people feel their personal freedoms outweigh their social responsibility to others....  :'(

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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2021, 06:42:08 PM »
Here We go with a thread going down hill really fast.
I'm not gonna even bother quoting the threads that point out I'm a villain or less then a Patriotic person.
Guess my jumping out of Military Aircraft means nothing since I choose to not be hit with an unproven drug.

Remember Zantac? Yeah. Years later cancer lawsuits.

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced on April 1, 2020 that it is requesting manufacturers to withdraw all Zantac and generic Zantac OTC ranitidine drugs from the market effective immediately."

OOPS! Not so darned safe eh?
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2021, 06:44:33 PM »
"but please note 40 percent of Marines do not want the jab.."

100% don't want to dig a foxhole until their first artillery attack.

Privateer and others: This thread is not intended to stir controversey. Please refrain from making something sad bad.
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2021, 06:49:59 PM »
To be VERY blunt?

I find questioning MY service to be nothing short of offensive.
And my FREEDOM of choice being questioned, or more directly stated?
You are attempting per-pressure in a way I find very aggressive and threatening!


How long before you all demand a shot record before I can log in?
You are on that road!
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2021, 07:16:49 PM »

Privateer and others: This thread is not intended to stir controversey. Please refrain from making something sad bad.
Read your very own post!
Am I sad for your lose?
YES!
But you attempt to say you were such a Good Solder so anyone NOT taking unknown shots of unknown drugs?
They must be unpatriotic or such.
And I don't buy into "Social Responsibility". That is just another catch phrase people jump on a band wagon
to try to FORCE people to meet their expectations.

I was not going to say a thing in this thread. But when you posted your drivel?
Yeah. You hit a nerve. Take responsibility for that.
I assume Marines can still do that, Right?
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2021, 07:33:37 PM »
Over half a million have died from the virus. I haven't heard of any deaths from the vaccine.


They tend to try and kinda hide that kind of information. It's in the THOUSANDS

Here's one where I bet her daughter wished she HADN'T gotten the shot

https://www.foxnews.com/us/utah-mom-dies-four-days-after-taking-covid-vaccine
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2021, 07:34:28 PM »
"but please note 40 percent of Marines do not want the jab.."

100% don't want to dig a foxhole until their first artillery attack.

Privateer and others: This thread is not intended to stir controversey. Please refrain from making something sad bad.

Frankly, we have had several covid threads for over a year now, and every single one of them gets controversial, and anyone who has been here during that time, who reads the Back Room knows that. Maybe not intended to be controversial, but past experience indicates that it very likely will be. If it starts getting nasty, and quite frankly, I have already seen snide and insulting remarks from both sides, this thread, just as the others, will be shut down. Most of us have been negatively affected in one way or anothet, and to start trying to guilt-trip others is wholly uncalled for. I suggest you all abide by the old rule that if you can't say something nice, then say nothing at all. Many of us are suffering from covid burn-out.
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