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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2021, 08:10:45 AM »
Buying, selling and trading on the internet is a two way street. Either one of those could net you "the hit".
There is not "ready, set, ship" option where both parties act at exactly the same time. Someone ultimately goes first.
So, there is always the risk of someone getting burned. If you ain't good with that, I suggest you stay out of the game. It's on you to do the research and use your judgement on whether or not to do the deal. I have never been burned by a "vested" member of the GTA. I have fallen victim to scams outside of the GTA but I have always got my money back due to the processes I use..... Paypal linked to a separate bank account set up exclusively for online purchases. I don't put more in that account than what would cover the purchases and just enough to keep the account open.
I don't do check, cash or money order. I don't used my credit card or bank account. I use Paypal and if the other party don't, we don't do business.... period.
Also, if you use Paypal F&F you are basically sending cash. Just consider that before dong it. You don't have the same backing as the "paying for services or items" option.
As for Doyle....
Let the man defend himself. The GTA will not tolerate personal attacks or member bashing. We will not be a host to vendettas for histories between individuals. The rules clearly state that we report personal experiences only. NO HE SAID, SHE SAID stuff here !!
If you have been scammed, by all means, report it. If not, it's nothing short of rumors.
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2021, 06:58:20 PM »
Doyle is electing not to defend himself, but just to play devil's advocate in his defense, he has had hundreds of positive interactions on AGN. Just because someone elects not to post a defense doesn't mean he is guilty of "scamming" either. Perhaps he did make some mistakes on this transaction, but the issue I have with threads like this is that the transaction is still pending or in dispute - I think both OP and Doyle are both getting a lot of negativity from members, especially on AGN (no surprise). Sometimes transactions go wrong, even in a checkout line at Walmart, so statistically things will go wrong online too (the human element).

I think a little forbearance for the debtor is a good thing, and also a little less lecturing at OP. I've seen nearly as much lecturing to OP as I have gossip about Yodoyle. I do hope this resolves soon and that Yodoyle and Pizzaman can get this behind them and get back to shooting. I do appreciate Pizzaman that you didn't disclose Yodoyles info online, and it shows some good moral principles.


Just some additional thoughts. I am not going to post on this anymore but hope to hear from either Pizza or Doyle about an update in the future about this being resolved...which I do think will happen.


« Last Edit: April 26, 2021, 07:14:32 PM by HPAman »
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2021, 07:26:26 PM »
It is sad to see this type of non-sense in this forum, I know bad people are everywhere, but this should be in a different gate. If it is first hand information being shared to protect other members, I understand, but a warning is all that is needed. Details can be shared if you are in the issue. We need trust among the members. I offered to rebuild a members 760 at no cost, other than shipping and the parts needed. He does not know me, I could just keep his gun and sell it, but that is not why I'm here. I joined to talk air guns and joke among like minded people. Thank you for the warning, note taken.
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2021, 07:41:51 PM »
It is sad to see this type of non-sense in this forum, I know bad people are everywhere, but this should be in a different gate. If it is first hand information being shared to protect other members, I understand, but a warning is all that is needed. Details can be shared if you are in the issue. We need trust among the members. I offered to rebuild a members 760 at no cost, other than shipping and the parts needed. He does not know me, I could just keep his gun and sell it, but that is not why I'm here. I joined to talk air guns and joke among like minded people. Thank you for the warning, note taken.

This is the proper gate most of the time it is positive and done. Some times if it is negative it is only a few posts long and gets resolved or dropped. In this instance a lot of people are talking about it for some reason. I suspect it is because some members frequent GTA and AGN along with a few smaller airgun forums and have dealt with Doyle else where.
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2021, 07:52:18 PM »
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it just seems so non-productive.
the warning is nice to know, but that was all I needed.
my 2 cents. I'm back to my cave now.  8)
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2021, 07:59:54 PM »
Can one of the mods perhaps message the individual in question and ask for his side of the story?

And if you do feel like you got scammed then contact the post office and file a dispute.  Being as he used the mail to commit fraud that would be something they would pursue and fix fairly quickly.  Have seen things like this on other forums, and like magic when the feds start calling all of a sudden the money, or item, magically appears to the original seller.
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2021, 12:49:29 AM »
Something is just not adding up for me here with all of this.  AJ/Doyle has quite the intellect that is easy to see.  I am very uneasy to call him anything else.  Maybe he ran into some financial issues, or is one that rides on the financial edge and is just trying to stall with some fast words.  I don't know, but I am keeping my options open on this one.  I am hoping the seller gets squared away very soon and the credit for the intellect is not being used in the wrong ways.  Hearsay is not accepted in a courtroom.
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2021, 01:32:57 PM »
Everyone has the right to post a bad transaction here in this gate.  That is what it's for, bad or good.

I do not know Doyle, or if he is a scammer or not, but we have had several "scammers" here in the past that built a good reputation with solid transactions for several months or a year, until 1 day they took lots of $$ (and/or guns for upgrades) from several people promising to built new parts, valves, or down payment on new guns, and they never delivered.  They were gone overnight.  In almost every case other members supported them at first, because they had a good transaction with them.  You have to always keep an open mind and know how scammers work. 

Intelligence has nothing to do with it either.  I lost my D350 in 2008 to a very intelligent person that had an engineering degree, and was on the Dianawerk forum for almost a year posting pics of his projects, tuned guns, pics of custom parts he machined, polished parts, target groupings, etc.  He could tune springers with his eyes closed and knew all the science behind it.  Not to mention he was extremely articulate, and his writing style was that of a physics professor and in most cases you felt you were reading a highly technical manual or textbook.  He was like Bob and Lloyd put together and more..  Anyway I called Texas State Police to make a report on my stolen 350 .22 and the fee for tuning, and it turns out he had ties with the Las Vegas Mob, and was under investigation and suspicion of laundering money, fraud, and other crimes, and had spent time in prison (9 months I think).  He fooled everyone because he was genuinely smart and loved air guns.

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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2021, 12:16:57 PM »
Any updates?
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2021, 02:02:07 PM »
Not here, or on "The World's Greatest $200 Scope Topic" [sic].
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2021, 02:09:19 PM »
Any updates?

He hasn’t been active since 4/19. This thread was started 4/24... who knows?
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2021, 06:16:06 PM »
To quote Art Linkletter... "Kids say the darndest things"
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Re: Doyle is a SCAMMER!!! AGN cross post be warned!!!
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2021, 07:40:21 PM »
I haven’t seen him post on the other forums either.
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« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2021, 08:36:02 PM »
To quote Art Linkletter... "Kids say the darndest things"

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« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2021, 12:05:56 AM »
To quote Art Linkletter... "Kids say the darndest things"

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« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2021, 12:21:29 AM »
Any updates?

Just some additional thoughts. I am not going to post on this anymore but hope to hear from either Pizza or Doyle about an update in the future about this being resolved...which I do think will happen.


HPAman, I guess the pressure for completion overwelmed you.  ;D
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« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2021, 01:01:14 AM »
To quote Art Linkletter... "Kids say the darndest things"

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« Reply #39 on: May 04, 2021, 03:27:13 AM »
Any updates?

Just some additional thoughts. I am not going to post on this anymore but hope to hear from either Pizza or Doyle about an update in the future about this being resolved...which I do think will happen.


HPAman, I guess the pressure for completion overwelmed you.  ;D

Well a few people asked me about it. I thought I'd ask to see if Pizza or others could post if they had had any interactions with Doyle.

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