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Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« on: December 08, 2020, 11:02:02 AM »
A friend of mine, who unfortunately lives in the left wing state of NY, Suffolk county to be more precise wants to buy a gun for home defense. Due to a very minor misadventure with the law over 40 years ago he is having a hard time getting the "license" his state requires him to have in order to own a firearm. So he has asked me about an airgun for home defense. I personally don't know much about using airguns for defense and honestly I think you're more likely to P*ss someone off using one than actually stop a home invasion or robbery. Maybe and hopefully I'm wrong about that. I wish he could leave that state and come to a nice Red Gun Friendly state but due to family and other commitments he cannot do that yet

He wants a PCP due to being able to leave it ready for use, power, and ability to shoot more than 1 shot before a reload or pump etc. He is left handed so a gun made for lefties would be nice. His budget is about $600 total, gun, optic, and hand pump. I told him about the $40 Chinese hand pumps and he's fine with that.

He is looking at a Marauder pistol in .22. I have never used or even seen a Marauder, rifle or pistol in person so don't know if that would work. Also if anyone knows about the laws for airguns in Suffolk County NY please chime in. The only thing I know is back in the 60's and 70's when I was a kid there I used to shoot bb and pellet guns (then onto .22's and shotguns) just about anywhere I wanted with no problems. I'm sure it's not like that today...

So what do you think? Is a Marauder pistol a good choice or do you have other suggestions for him?
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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2020, 11:13:07 AM »
I have no suggestions for the intended purpose.

A Marauder pistol would need a good of work to get up to the power level of a .22 rimfire CB Long (30-32 fpe).   As delivered a P-Rod is about 16 fpe.    (for completeness, a typical .22 rimfire Long Rifle is about 150 fpe.)
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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2020, 11:27:04 AM »
Not in the price range but has the power, single shot but will give about 4 full power shots per fill.
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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2020, 11:49:35 AM »
Here we go...


In my opinion, an airgun is only going to be a deterrent. With the possible exception of some big bore guns but they're mostly single shot and most are too long for effective indoor user.


Since we're primarily looking at deterrents, I would look for a tool specifically designed for that job. Something like an Umarex T4E HDR 50 co2 revolver. There is a wide selection of ammo from rubber balls to steel ball bearings and pepper balls. It uses a quick pierce pin system so it can always be ready to deploy without worrying about leaks. If an actual firearm was not an option for me, this is what I would choose or a black powder pistol but some states treat those as a firearm.

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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2020, 12:02:35 PM »
Not ideal but save another $100 and he could get a Benjamin Bulldog with 5 round magazine.  Light slugs and similar output to a 380acp. Home defense wouldn't want a scope so a cheap reddot or even a set of open sights full set up could be had for about $700
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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2020, 12:22:29 PM »
I would be worried about stopping power with a mid body shot. A .22 might hit the right spot and do the job, but it will not be immediate and will not have the massive (internal) damage of a larger projectile. A .22 to the face would stop most anyone, but that is a much smaller target.

I do not have a suggestion other than to lean towards a larger caliber. Having to cock a bolt for a second shot will (not) be advantageous either.

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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2020, 12:26:21 PM »
Baseball bat.
I am from Suffolk County and think he is asking for trouble in thing of using a pcp for defense.
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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2020, 12:46:43 PM »
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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2020, 12:49:36 PM »
I canít believe you guys are even entertaining this subject. This is not a topic for an airgun forum. Stop!
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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2020, 01:01:59 PM »
I canít believe you guys are even entertaining this subject. This is not a topic for an airgun forum. Stop!

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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2020, 01:04:23 PM »
Tell him to buy a Big Mean Dog.....
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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2020, 01:06:58 PM »
As much as I don't like NYS gun laws, think your friend's problem is more Federal. 

I know someone who had a pot charge from the 70's that was esponged (sp).   Many years latter, had the ATF show up at the door and confiscate all his guns.   Apparently, he won a rifle at a NRA event and this FBI check caught the issue, where-as the prior purchases didn't.  After two years with a lawyer, still not resolved.  Aparently, the Feds don't honor the local espongement. 
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Re: Need suggestions, what gun for this situation?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2020, 01:12:46 PM »
I canít believe you guys are even entertaining this subject. This is not a topic for an airgun forum. Stop!

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