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Texan explosion.
« on: September 25, 2020, 04:04:02 PM »

Just got a message from Doug Noble, and there has been an explosion involving a 4500psi super valve fitted texan.
The gun had exploded and shooter is in hospital.
This is all I know.


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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2020, 04:36:11 PM »
Was it the AAO valve?
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2020, 04:45:27 PM »
Dang, I surely feel badly for the guy although hoping this does not make the mainstream headlines, would not be good news for airgunning public perceptions
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2020, 05:27:17 PM »
WOW !!!!..... this needs to be shared far and wide,

No can hide stuff like this.
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2020, 05:30:58 PM »
Facts and details aside,... prayers for the injured.
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2020, 05:32:47 PM »
Prayers sent. That is horrible. Good job getting the word out.
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2020, 05:48:45 PM »
prayers for the victim and his family. , this is very sad ..Last yr , it was some super plenum for the airforce line that blew up.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2020, 06:31:47 PM »
High pressure air is not something to mess around with , my avenger is rated for 4350 but I  only fill to 3900 just to be safe , I'm surprised we don't have more of these kind of explosions , first thought was some kind of petroleum based oil was used, but hopefully a more detailed report will surface so we all can learn from this tragedy.
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2020, 06:34:07 PM »
So it has been two AF mods so far that do this?
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2020, 06:36:41 PM »
No Texan valve from us or Jeremy at AAO has  BLOWN UP ! The person Picked up a bottle that was supposed to be full of helium from his local welding shop and they mistakenly gave him a bottle of oxygen instead.  Some people need to wait to hear the facts before they start blaming products or people in the industry for what has happened
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2020, 07:57:25 PM »
Very true Chad. That was a horrible mistake made by the shop. Hopefully they do EVERYTHING they can to help the injured person.
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2020, 08:12:16 PM »
Amen! to facts. The main stream media could learn a thing or two. In the end,.. a good reminder to remember what we are dealing with,.. should we decide to play beyond the "normal" boundaries of air gunning.

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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2020, 10:27:03 PM »
High pressure air is not something to mess around with , my avenger is rated for 4350 but I  only fill to 3900 just to be safe , I'm surprised we don't have more of these kind of explosions , first thought was some kind of petroleum based oil was used, but hopefully a more detailed report will surface so we all can learn from this tragedy.
I get what you're saying but lets touch reality, 3900 psi is going kill you just as much as 4300.
125 psi can kill you...
that welding shop better get a dam good lawyer because that is straight up bodily harm negligence..

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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2020, 10:40:15 PM »
High pressure air is not something to mess around with , my avenger is rated for 4350 but I  only fill to 3900 just to be safe , I'm surprised we don't have more of these kind of explosions , first thought was some kind of petroleum based oil was used, but hopefully a more detailed report will surface so we all can learn from this tragedy.

Not sure but do you think you could tell the difference with metal particles going through your body from 3900 psi explosion compared to 4350?
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2020, 11:37:52 PM »
Prayers for all involved.  Horrible accident.
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2020, 01:40:52 AM »
I am very sorry to hear that the shooter is injured, and hope he has a speedy recovery.... The statement that an Oxygen bottle was supplied instead of Helium confuses me, because I think commercial welding Oxygen is supplied at 2200 psi, not 4500.... Since we fill by pressure, and supposedly the gun exploded on firing (not on filling), it makes this even stranger....

I would love to see a colour photo of the tank supplied by the welding shop.... Tanks are colour coded, and have different valve threads, for a reason.... It should in theory be impossible for a gas supplier to fill a Helium tank with Oxygen, as they have different valve threads....

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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2020, 01:55:43 AM »
There is no way and no how to mount a nitrogen / helium bottle regulator / fill adapter on an oxygen tank thread.
If that is the case here, the user is in the blame too for  rigging up a fill line to oxygen tank thread.
Wrong tank filled with oxygen should not be possible unless the company filling it has unqualified and possibly criminally incompetent personnel.
No one is blaming Lethal air, I only stated the facts that I knew.

If it's was oxygen then its fine by me and user or filler stupidity but if the gas was inert then its a whole different matter.

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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2020, 06:55:43 AM »
It is not possible to mix bottles unintentionally. Thread is totally of different size. It is also impossible in gas company cause they cannot fix the wrong bottle to oxygen filling line.
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2020, 08:25:56 AM »
Hopefully we will get the end of this story and all the facts come to the surface.
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Re: Texan explosion.
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2020, 11:00:36 AM »
This is a horrible situation for everyone involved.  Hopefully we will soon have the facts and can learn from it. 

Not that I am insinuating this is lube related, but I will say that simply reading this made me check how my PCP lubes are clearly identified compared to lubes used for other hobbies... ..
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