I don't have a Patriot, but I've basically dreamed of having one ever since reading about them in gun magazines in the late 80's. Turk Patriots have such terrible rep (guns self-firing during cocking etc.) that it's a no go.
I have a Beeman Kodiak in .25.Same gun.It is still packed from our last move,so dunno how it is shooting.Takes 3 men and a small boy to cock the critter,tho............
I have one. It was professionally tuned by the previous owner. I can't remember who tuned it nor who I bought it from. its picky with pellets. Some pellets are shotgun patterns. Others are very tight. Iirc, H&N hollow points do very well. I'm not willing to sell it because I really just got it for my collection of .25 cal springers. One issue I have with it is the barrel lock-up doesn't hold the barrel locked. I guess the chisel doesn't produce enough force to hold it in place. Just bumping the gun against the sandbag when I set it in place to take a shot is enough to dislodge the barrel/breech/chisel. I haven't figured it out. I'm open to suggestions. The barrel pivot bolt is tight. There's no horizontal movement of the breech block in the forks. Its just a loose/weak chisel.I've also had a hard time finding an acceptable sighting system for it. None of the Williams peep sights work well in it. I should try a UTG scope now that I've found a pellet that is definitely accurate at 10m. I'd rather have a peep sight system. That muzzle attachement/front sight is just weird making it hard to find a peep system for it.Mine is English. I wouldn't touch a Turkish made one; just get a proper Hatsan instead. A 125, 130 or 135 will do.
No a 40J springer isn't going to happen. Physics. Although, I think Theoben made a model or two that may have come close. If you really want that power, then a pcp is what you need; accuracy will be easier too.BTW: How do I contact this David Slade person? The name rings a bell and he may have been the one to tune my gun in the first place.
No a 40J springer isn't going to happen. Physics. [...] If you really want that power, then a pcp is what you need; accuracy will be easier too.
Quote from: Mossonarock on September 23, 2020, 09:22:09 AMNo a 40J springer isn't going to happen. Physics. [...] If you really want that power, then a pcp is what you need; accuracy will be easier too.No offense, but that's not remotely true. Webley Patriot with heavy pellets just barely reaches 40 J, as do Hatsan 125s, while Hatsan 135 goes some 10 % over that threshold. The most powerful Theobens and the Beeman Crow Magnum clocked around 45 J at best. Whiscombe JW80 put out up to 47 Joules. All of these are in .25 cal, obviously, and not makers' claims but outsider tested. Even Gamo today advertises its magnum models as putting out 45 J, but that's just hyperbole. So, to recap, 40 J isn't even the upper limit of commercially produced springers - 45 to 47 J is.I have a PCP, and couldn't care less to own another one. What I want is a perfectly realistic, upper end KE springer.
IMO theirs no real advantage to a .25cal spring gun over a .22cal spring gun givin the same pellet weight, once u go to a heavier pellet u might as well take advantage of it in a PCP gun to get the most out of a .25cal pellet, something that has enough to push the pellet to be of some advantage or use of the heavier pellets that's efficient