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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2018, 11:20:35 AM »
Corey

I have a Walther 4X32 fixed power scope mounted on my Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 rifle.  It is Simple, Tough, & Very Clear.

I cleaned my barrel throughly before I shot mine and did not get any dieseling.

Your Gas Ram NP 2 Breakbarrel rifle will not shoot the same as your Multi-Pump Blue streak.  The Summit Ranger will have a springer type, recoiling jump, to it and the Bluestreak will not.  The trigger pull ( A Slow Controlled Squeeze ) is the key to good accuracy ..on both guns.. but they are not going to be... or feel... the same between your Bluestreak & Summit Ranger.

In the picture below, you can see how I position my off-hand for shooting my rifles. I rest the fore-stock of my rifles in the Vee that is formed between my thumb and fingers. I do not grip the fore-stock. I let it float free in that Vee. Try shooting your rifle in that manner and see if it makes any difference in your shot groups.

Best Wishes  -  Tom

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Also...Don't flinch up and anticipate the recoil or the shot.    Relax and let it happen.  :)
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2018, 02:52:01 PM »
Thanks Tom! I'll give that a try!

Here is another bench rested group after double checking screws and some barrel cleaning (still getting some dieseling though. Must be in the Piston area). I think it is safe to say the rifle is fine (if someone thinks different let me know!). Just the shooter needs some tweaking.  ;)

Thinking of maybe getting a Bugbuster 3-9x32 for it.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2018, 03:39:30 PM »
Corey     That shot group looks a lot better.  :)       

Corey....Here is another alternate hold technique to shooting a springer air rifle that you may want to try.


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Quote from: Smoketown on July 07, 2018, 08:26:35 AM
Quote from: superchikn on July 06, 2018, 08:31:07 PM
Well it has been a week and a day since I posted this and as long since i shot my Octane.  I was out of town for the fourth and only took my CO2 girls and they got plenty of exercise.  ;D ;D ;D

So tonight I set up at about 8:00 and starting pushing the JSB 18s through at 30 yds.  After the 1st or 2nd shot keyholes around 1/2".  Tried the Barracuda hunters out which are sorted by weight and for the most part they were shooting even better. 

For giggles I tried a tighter grip and pulled tight to my shoulder.  That one was 2" to the right.

So I feel like I do now know that this particular gun likes to be pointed and fired with as little pressure or contact as possible and shoots these two pellets well that way.



All my 'ladies' like to be held differently ... Holding her tighter may change the point of impact but, it can also change the size of the group ... Sometimes, for the better!   ;D

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Jim,

I was just out shooting some frozen targets from a mold i got from PA and i remembered your statement and thought i would give that a try.

So I held this thing like a PB rifle firmly and pulled tight to my shoulder with my left hand holding the foregrip and resting on a bag.  My first five shots were about 1 1/4" low and to the right of POA. All five within a dime!  At 30 yds.  Then I pulled one or two and fired several more and continued to group tightly!

Did not see this coming. 

Jim you were right!

This hold does require some practice as there is motion that was not there with the artillery hold.
I tried leaving the front of the rifle on the bag and gripping firmly and pulling tightly to my shoulder and I get a shotgun effect that way.

Thank You Jim, i now know that I do not have a bench queen.  Awesome!!!

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Turns out my Octane Elite is not so hold sensitive.
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https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=145205.msg1481128#msg1481128

Turns out that when I hold mine tight like i would a PBer with both hands and only resting front hand on bag i get a change in POI but groups well and with some practice will group as well or maybe better than artillery hold.

Something new every day! ;D ;D ;D

« Last Edit: July 13, 2018, 04:00:37 PM by T. Wood - A.K.A. Tommy Boy »
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2018, 11:54:20 PM »
Thanks Tom!  8) I'll keep on practicing.

Interesting. I shall have to do some hold experimentation and see what happens!

Thank you again for all your help!
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2018, 12:09:59 AM »
Thanks Tom! I'll give that a try!

Here is another bench rested group after double checking screws and some barrel cleaning (still getting some dieseling though. Must be in the Piston area). I think it is safe to say the rifle is fine (if someone thinks different let me know!). Just the shooter needs some tweaking.  ;)

Thinking of maybe getting a Bugbuster 3-9x32 for it.

For iron sights and a new gun to you, and a shooter new to springers- I think that is a great group.

Tom really likes his springers and I think he bags a good amount of game with them. I would try any advise he gives.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2019, 01:07:14 PM »
FYI

Today Midwayusa com has the Crosman Summit Ranger on clearance sale for $68

And for $15 you can upgrade it to a Benjamin Summit with these Crosman parts

 NP214-001       TRAIL BAFFLE
 NP214-009      SHROUD CONE
 NP214-008      TRAIL SHROUD
 E357-008       O-RING, 2-018

Happy Hunting!
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2019, 10:53:07 PM »
FYI

Today Midwayusa com has the Crosman Summit Ranger on clearance sale for $68

And for $15 you can upgrade it to a Benjamin Summit with these Crosman parts

 NP214-001       TRAIL BAFFLE
 NP214-009      SHROUD CONE
 NP214-008      TRAIL SHROUD
 E357-008       O-RING, 2-018

Happy Hunting!

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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2019, 12:29:44 PM »
Received my $87 shipped Crosman Summit Ranger .22 from Midway yesterday. Fired a pellet to ensure function and put it back in the box. Pleasantly surprised at the cocking force, less than expected! Trigger was............ :(
Has anybody put a Tuna trigger in one of these Summit Ranger NP2s? I have used his triggers with great success in the past, have faith in the brand. A little feedback before I place the order would be great. Thanks.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2019, 10:55:53 PM »
Received my $87 shipped Crosman Summit Ranger .22 from Midway yesterday. Fired a pellet to ensure function and put it back in the box. Pleasantly surprised at the cocking force, less than expected! Trigger was............ :(
Has anybody put a Tuna trigger in one of these Summit Ranger NP2s? I have used his triggers with great success in the past, have faith in the brand. A little feedback before I place the order would be great. Thanks.

You can improve the Clean Break Trigger (CBT) with a little effort. Read through this thread starting here...
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=160497.msg155785774#msg155785774

If the DIY tuning is not good enough, the correct Charlie DaTuna upgrade would be the next step.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2019, 03:36:43 AM »
I found out today that the summit ranger barrel is longer than the benjamin summit barrel so

in addition to the Crosman parts list posted above you'll need a carbon fiber tube to be placed in between the shroud-cone and the receiver body.

I'm using these parts cut for the spacer (approx-3-4")

Matte-19mm-OD-15mm-ID-500mm-Length-3K-Roll-Carbon-Fiber-Tube-19-15-500 off of ebay

This is now the longest rifle in the cabinet.    8)
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2019, 01:34:11 AM »
Received my $87 shipped Crosman Summit Ranger .22 from Midway yesterday. Fired a pellet to ensure function and put it back in the box. Pleasantly surprised at the cocking force, less than expected! Trigger was............ :(
Has anybody put a Tuna trigger in one of these Summit Ranger NP2s? I have used his triggers with great success in the past, have faith in the brand. A little feedback before I place the order would be great. Thanks.

I had an NP B19. The trigger was so bad I kept making sure the safety was off.

I guess the clean break is a little better than that.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2019, 09:29:01 PM »
Received my $87 shipped Crosman Summit Ranger .22 from Midway yesterday. Fired a pellet to ensure function and put it back in the box. Pleasantly surprised at the cocking force, less than expected! Trigger was............ :(
Has anybody put a Tuna trigger in one of these Summit Ranger NP2s? I have used his triggers with great success in the past, have faith in the brand. A little feedback before I place the order would be great. Thanks.

I had an NP B19. The trigger was so bad I kept making sure the safety was off.

I guess the clean break is a little better than that.

How is that Remington Express i sold you working out?
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2019, 01:34:44 PM »
Received my $87 shipped Crosman Summit Ranger .22 from Midway yesterday. Fired a pellet to ensure function and put it back in the box. Pleasantly surprised at the cocking force, less than expected! Trigger was............ :(
Has anybody put a Tuna trigger in one of these Summit Ranger NP2s? I have used his triggers with great success in the past, have faith in the brand. A little feedback before I place the order would be great. Thanks.

I had an NP B19. The trigger was so bad I kept making sure the safety was off.

I guess the clean break is a little better than that.

How is that Remington Express i sold you working out?

I put a .22 barrel and diopter on it and barely shot it.

It works great. Just havenít messed with it much.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2019, 01:44:10 PM »
I guess sometimes I just mess with them.

Iíve gotten 3 springers as far as I thought they could reasonably go, just to give them away.

I was trying to give away my B19 but my wife forgot to grab it from the in-laws when she was there.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2019, 11:42:54 AM »
Crosman Summit Ranger Owners :


If anyone is interested in switching out the Plastic stock on a Summit Ranger I think this one might work.   

Many folks here in the Forum detest plastic stocks.  So if you wish to replace the stock on your Summit Ranger with a wood stock then you may wish to take a look at this one. It is for the Crosman Valiant and I think it will fit.  Both have the larger diameter NP2/Elite Gas Ram. This one is cut out to allow for clearance of the rear barrel sight too.  This is the least expensive one that I have found so far. 

The Wood stock for the Benjamin Trail NP2 might fit too but it runs about $20 more and the rear barrel sight would not clear without re-working the stock in that area or removing the rear barrel sight.  The B19 series guns have a smaller Gas Spring and the stocks do not fit in that area.

On my Summit Ranger, I fixed the thunk sound from the hollow plastic stock by stuffing it full of foam rubber.


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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #55 on: September 01, 2019, 12:13:30 PM »
Put the Tuna CBR trigger blade in, light years better. Doesn't feel like dragging a nail across concrete now, and don't need a come-along to pull the trigger either. Cleaned barrel and mounted a cheap scope on it, now just wait for the blue stuff to cure.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2019, 11:07:03 PM »
    Those Summit Rangers at Midway are down to $63.88. For me, to Hawaii near Hilo, shipping would add another $20.00. Still, not a bad price. It would be my first .22 caliber break barrel. I target shoot, and shoot rats at night that raid our chicken coop. I am very seriously considering grabbing one at that price. They show 23 left right now, as I just checked.
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2019, 11:29:05 PM »
Mine is being delivered tomorrow.
I blame you Tom.  Ha Ha.   i did not need one of these.

But seriously with Tom's praise of this gun, at $68 delivered I thought I would be a yutz not to get one and try it out.

We shall see tomorrow night!!!
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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2019, 10:11:51 PM »
Well, Tom- a big thank you to you sir!  I got a real gem.
Straight out of the box with iron sights I was grouping Benji HPs at 50' at about an inch.  My eyes do not like open sights any more.  Those pellets must really be screaming because they are loud when they hit the paper.  I tried some 16gr AAs, 18gr AAs, 21gr Cudas, 18gr Barracuda hunters.  All shot tightly and roughly the same POI. 

Put a 3x red dot on it... even better, zeroed at 30 yds, not enough magnification but I was still getting 1" groups. 

This was straight out of the box,  I did not clean or adjust anything.  I was shooting from the bench with a relatively firm two handed hold.  Not artillary hold.
I find this gun to be very easy to shoot.  With a scope I know I could shoot nickels or dimes.  As is.
The trigger is a little stiff but I have several guns which came with much much worse triggers.
This gun feels great for field use.  Light and compact.  It also feels very durable.
$68 delivered!  I am really really impressed!  I would be impressed if I had paid $150 for it.


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Re: Crosman Summit Ranger NP2 Rifle (22Cal) - A Forest Hunters Evaluation
« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2019, 03:10:51 PM »
Well, Tom- a big thank you to you sir!  I got a real gem.
Straight out of the box with iron sights I was grouping Benji HPs at 50' at about an inch.  My eyes do not like open sights any more.  Those pellets must really be screaming because they are loud when they hit the paper.  I tried some 16gr AAs, 18gr AAs, 21gr Cudas, 18gr Barracuda hunters.  All shot tightly and roughly the same POI. 

Put a 3x red dot on it... even better, zeroed at 30 yds, not enough magnification but I was still getting 1" groups. 

This was straight out of the box,  I did not clean or adjust anything.  I was shooting from the bench with a relatively firm two handed hold.  Not artillary hold.
I find this gun to be very easy to shoot.  With a scope I know I could shoot nickels or dimes.  As is.
The trigger is a little stiff but I have several guns which came with much much worse triggers.
This gun feels great for field use.  Light and compact.  It also feels very durable.
$68 delivered!  I am really really impressed!  I would be impressed if I had paid $150 for it.

Ray......That is Good News.
I am glad that you are happy with your rifle and it is preforming to your expectations.


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