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While technically a down grade for certain globe sights, I added two Truglo globe sights to my last order from Field Supply, for $5 (ok, $4.99) each. I was going to try one on my HW95 and the other on my Diana 350. They came in last week, but honestly haven't got around to put them on yet, and the HW95 has been doing great scoped lately. I'll try to get mounted on the 350 soon and see how I do. Possibly I'll add a Williams peep with the standard and twilight apertures.
There's an adjustment to dial in how much light gets picked up for the fiber optic. Even during this overcast day it glows brighter than this device's camera can do justice. The sight post isn't spectacular and the unit is plastic, but for $5, I think it was a decent/low risk buy. Could be useful against certain targets.
Here's a photo
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Do you know for sure that it will fit on the Weihrauch dove tails? I’d love to try one on my HW30 that wears a Williams peep. Not sure if height works with it but it is cheap enough to give it a try.
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I had seen in a review they fit the HW dovetail. I can confirm it does fit the Diana dovetail. I'll try my best to confirm tonight for fit on Weihrauch dovetail.
I do have to say, it's a $5 sight. I've seen them as high as $18, but anywhere in the $5 to $12-ish range should be fair. It's not spectacular, lol. But does aid in sighting.
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I ended up ordering two of them. I’ve wanted to try a FO globe sight and the Weihrauch FO globes are like 60 bucks. Thanks for the heads up.
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A guy and i talked them up between the tru glo and the hw Id have to dig up his thread on it.
He has the truglow or was it the hw branded?
If you can get the rear that has the dot to line up with the front would go good.
Now if you notice in the he changes na knockoff like at flying dragon it got the same looking/ style as the hw branded.
Check its pictures.
https://xisicousa.com/product/xisico-xs12/
Anyway i thought id call him to see and the Chinese price cant be as much as the branded hw ones? Then if a bargen get front and rear for a matched set.
But as usual never did.lol.. you inow me its a mail order deal.. so..
In the end at your buy price added to a order could not hurt to try and see how you like it. Like a this R9 the factory blued steel sights are had to see at times of the day and certin targets/ bullseyes.
I like to hear your uprated opinion on the truglo. .
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I am not sure if the height will work with my Willams peep, we’ll see. For the price it’s worth a try.
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I am not sure if the height will work with my Willams peep, we’ll see. For the price it’s worth a try.
Man so many threads i got.. i went to find the thread that guy had on them and gave up.
Funny you said the height of it cause it sure seems he said somthing to that on his as well.
I do recall him saying something to that..
Don't see why with just the rear blade it should not work
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Ok, for now is a comparison to between the DIANA globe sight to the Truglo globe sight. I was able to break away just long enough to snap some photos, no actual measurements.
Trying to find a good location for clear photos was tough, and I'm no photographer. (Hense the odd location for pictures... On the washer ;D)
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The TG globe fits the dovetails on my HW50s and Classic RWS 34.
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The TG globe fits the dovetails on my HW50s and Classic RWS 34.
Thanks for the confirmation. I was fairly sure the dovetails were cut to a standard width. As far as hight between models and various rear sights, is another concern.
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The TG globe fits the dovetails on my HW50s and Classic RWS 34.
Thanks for the confirmation. I was fairly sure the dovetails were cut to a standard width. As far as hight between models and various rear sights, is another concern.
Looks like the only concern is height, definitely looks lower than oem.
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Wow the diana has a spike insert?
Nice.
I need that on this beeman. I dont get why hw dont offer one in thete insert pak.
That old thread i tried to dig up he used them on his hw 95 so it should fit fine.
I wish i coud find ot he had some good info on his use of them. The search feature hete aint so good ..lol
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There is a slight difference in width between the Diana and Weihrauch front dovetails but the plastic TG globe has enough flex to accommodate the difference. No need to overtighten the clamping screw on the globe or it could crack.
I had no problem with TG and rear oem open sight or with a Williams rear on my HW50s although I ultimately switched to an Anschutz globe on the 50.
Globes left to right:
Diana - Weihrauch - TruGlo
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There is a slight difference in width between the Diana and Weihrauch front dovetails but the plastic TG globe has enough flex to accommodate the difference. No need to overtighten the clamping screw on the globe or it could crack.
I had no problem with TG and rear oem open sight or with a Williams rear on my HW50s although I ultimately switched to an Anschutz globe on the 50.
Ha, i found it and the guy was this artie here ...lol
That s funny now... Been done gf ng around for it and hes right here anyway..
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Wow the diana has a spike insert?
Nice.
I need that on this beeman. I dont get why hw dont offer one in thete insert pak.
That old thread i tried to dig up he used them on his hw 95 so it should fit fine.
I wish i coud find ot he had some good info on his use of them. The search feature hete aint so good ..lol
I really do like the spike insert, but was wanting to try something different. I feel in some lighting conditions against certain targets, a fiber optic would really "shine"/pop. I need all the help I can get with opens.
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Thanks Artie!
Saved me some work trying to test things out (and take photos) ;D
I'll test things out with the Diana first. Possibly tomorrow before I get some groups in. Unless I get some time to squeeze some off tonight.
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A couple of things come to mind. The TG is fine for plinking and hunting but I mostly punch paper and the TG post can obscure small bulls unless aligning the post at 6 oclock. The fiber is small enough but it is encased in plastic which can block the target unless it is positioned below the bull.
The other point is the Weihrauch inserts for the HW globe are limited in variety. Also, only Weihrauch produces inserts for their globe. Very difficult to source additional inserts. That is why I chose an Anschutz globe with 17.2mm inserts. Many choices available in that size including my now favorite inserts, acrylic apertures.
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I like to tend agree with arties first paragraph.
Also some can be bright it like your staring in to the sun and had to put tape ovre the globes to help shade light hitting the fiber too hard.
Not thst its has to do with that s bit i found this i thought was funny interesting in a peep package but i guess you got to be in India.
https://www.preciholesports.com/store# (https://www.preciholesports.com/store#)!/Sights/c/22670000
Lol.. at first st i thought it was from Indiana... Wrong... America wete just 3ed world .
Funny how places with strict gun right or laws has more stuf or needed parts to get a then we do once again..
On his 2ed ..
Ive read that a few times around on that as well too ..
That spike for me would be nice.. of the inserts of the beeman the lollypop post is the most accurate and ease of use on target vs the other post inserts.
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Finally did an initial test with the "TG" globe sight on the Diana 350, but honestly I'm not totally dialed in.
I had to turn down down my rear sight 15 "clicks", which is 1 click away from bottomed out, to achieve a 6-o'clock hold at 30 yards (roughly shooting 1.5" high of POA). Off hand, easily achieving minute-of-tin (cans) between 20-50 yards with H&N FTT 8.4gr pellets (this gun is de-tuned to not go supersonic with lighter pellets). Unfortunately it's raining and I can't sit down and shoot rested to really dial things in. I'd also like to 're-chrony the gun to see how fast these pellets are actually flying, last I knew, it was making 15.5-16(+)fpe with most pellets (down from 21fpe in factory form), which still may be a little fast. But generally Vortek springs settle a bit with time.
I was thinking, if I could figure a way to mount, glue or epoxy one of these to my D460, that would be beyond awesome... But just thinking aloud.
As for now, I'm going to hold off on mounting on my HW95, as I'm getting the best out if it scoped. Possibly it may find it's way onto a HW30 or HW35 if/when I give in to ordering one (or both ;D).
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Maybe ots my eyes bit your picture shows the truglo lower then the diana.
Arties its taller?
Anyway.
If you hit to the left you move the front sight to the left that brings your shot right..
Now if you lower the front that should make you shoot higher.
Cause that raises the rear sight plain just as if you brought the rear blade adjustment up.
Now its looking like the front truglo is lower that now caises your rear to run out of down adjustment, right?
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I try to remember F.O.R.S. (Front Opposite Rear Same) for sight adjustment.
Yes, with the lower post hight, I'm nearly out of downward adjustment in my rear sight. I do have "one click" left before bottoming out. Off hand 1.5" high at 30 yards isn't horrible (not the best either). It's right around the peak of trajectory, I'll have to do some shooting rested and on paper to really see how things do.
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Sights:
The higher the rear sight, the higher the impact.
High Impact: lower rear sight or raise front sight.
Low Impact: raise rear sight or lower front sight.
My photo is misleading because of the angle I shot the picture. On my D34 with the oem front globe, and with the oem open rear that I cranked comletely down (cw) I was still impacting high. However, the Diana front globe spiked post (as I received it) was angled toward the muzzle. By bending the spike vertcally (perpendicular to the barrel) I began grouping in the bull.
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I try to remember F.O.R.S. (Front Opposite Rear Same) for sight adjustment.
Yes, with the lower post hight, I'm nearly out of downward adjustment in my rear sight. I do have "one click" left before bottoming out. Off hand 1.5" high at 30 yards isn't horrible (not the best either). It's right around the peak of trajectory, I'll have to do some shooting rested and on paper to really see how things do.
You sure? Really? ???
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I try to remember F.O.R.S. (Front Opposite Rear Same) for sight adjustment.
Yes, with the lower post hight, I'm nearly out of downward adjustment in my rear sight. I do have "one click" left before bottoming out. Off hand 1.5" high at 30 yards isn't horrible (not the best either). It's right around the peak of trajectory, I'll have to do some shooting rested and on paper to really see how things do.
You sure? Really? ???
-Y
Lol, yes...
(to everything in that post, even the painfully obvious ;) )
-Be well, stay safe
*Edit*
Yogi, I took your reply as sarcasm. My apologies if not so. That post was a reply to Deeco on the previous page:
Maybe ots my eyes bit your picture shows the truglo lower then the diana.
Arties its taller?
Anyway.
If you hit to the left you move the front sight to the left that brings your shot right..
Now if you lower the front that should make you shoot higher.
Cause that raises the rear sight plain just as if you brought the rear blade adjustment up.
Now its looking like the front truglo is lower that now caises your rear to run out of down adjustment, right?
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After getting dialed in, I was able to shoot the D350 with the Truglo sight a bit. With the rear sight adjustment at "one click" from bottomed out and rested, the gun had a 30 yard zero. Each click up from there puts you on target about 5 yards further, to 50 yards (that I have available currently to shoot). I happened to get lucky, As the "0" on the dial was my 30 yard zero. The "2" was good at 40 yards and "4" was on at 50 yards.
Here's some 50 yard shots on painted steel using the Truglo globe sight on the D350...(as posted in another thread, a 5 shot group, then repainted and 10 more)