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Struckat
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Re: Another peep sight question
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Reply #80 on:
October 13, 2021, 10:54:22 PM »
I’ve been switching between a Williams and a scope on my HW95 and HW30. I am shooting as constant with the peep as I am with a scope.
I plan to get ahold of one of Hectors extensions as I need to get the aperture further back, closer to my eye. My recent purchase of a Daisy 853 taught me that.
Most of the eBay sights say if it fit the 11mm grooves. But I think I would like Mike to make some recommendations as he may already have one of each.
Another option is the diopter sight that Cslinger has on several of his HWs.
I shot this last weekend with a peep at 25 yards, very good for me especially after having not been shooting for several weeks.
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1377, 1986
“Dan Wesson” 177
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Daisy 753
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2220 carbine
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HW95, 177-22
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Re: Another peep sight question
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October 14, 2021, 12:23:54 AM »
Whatever you are doing seems pretty good to me...
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Re: Another peep sight question
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October 14, 2021, 09:53:56 AM »
Artie, I also had cataract surgery this year...it's great!
The older Anschutz sights are some of my very favorites to use. The long dovetail rails are 11mm, and have some flex that gives a little leeway in mounting and tremendous gripping power. They fit perfectly on Weihrauch rifles with 11mm rails, and also work fine on older Dianas. (In spite of what you will read in many ebay listings, I find they do NOT fit on Walther or FWB, whose rails are somewhat wider).
Back in the day, Anschutz made two different series of sights. Less expensive models had a light alloy body, but there were upgrade ones made of steel, generically known as "Universal" models. back in the day, the "U's" were quite a bit more expensive, but today they all seem to run about the same on ebay, etc.
All Anschutz sights use the standard Euro 9.5 x 1.0mm eyepiece thread. You can exchange eyepieces with any other German sight, and they take the full range of nifty accessories from Gehmann and Centra. I would recommend eventually getting a basic adjustable iris which is not too expensive - it's only when you add the colored filters, lenses, etc. that they get pricey.
As for the Bulgarian ebay guy, I don't know! Have never bought from him, but a friend has. He had an issue which the fellow did make good on. I notice he advertises a lot of sights for "13mm" rails, which appear to be various brands of sights that have been modified for old HW's (they went from 13mm to 11mm rails in the late 1970's), I'd definitely steer clear of those.
Note that a lot of sellers will stick "Anschutz" in their listing when the sight is actually something completely different! This is just because they know that's the most widely-searched name.
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Re: Another peep sight question
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October 14, 2021, 10:51:20 AM »
Thanks Mike. Nearly all of the ebay offerings fail to show the bottom of the sights. Are all Anshutz sight's mounting studs machined flat to accomodate the curvature of the receiver?
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Re: Another peep sight question
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October 14, 2021, 11:23:01 AM »
Here's four vintage Anschutz sights. Left to right: 6705 (alloy), 6700, and two versions of the 6702 (all steel). The 6702 was made for many years and had changes along the way.
To illustrate the interchangeability thing, here you see Gehmann, Diana, FWB, and HW eyepieces mounted.
The rails are a simple and versatile design; flat on the bottom, and the space between easily clears either flat-top or arched receivers.
Here's an HW 55 with a 6702 on board. This gun has 11mm rails identical to any modern Weihrauch.
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Artie
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Re: Another peep sight question
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October 14, 2021, 11:34:17 AM »
The pictures are a great help, thanks a bunch. I could not find model numbers either listed or impressed in any of the sights pictured in the ebay listings. The photos you provide will aid in selection.
Other than gun shows and ebay, is there a reliable source for diopter sights in general, and vintage Anshutz particularly?
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MDriskill
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Re: Another peep sight question
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October 14, 2021, 11:46:24 AM »
Yeah, there are no numbers on the sights typically. I only recently deciphered some of that info!
As with any piece of vintage hardware, it can take some patience and poking around to find stuff. I've bought sights at gun shops, gun shows, airgun shows, gun auction sites (Gun Auction, Gunbroker), classifieds sites (American Airguns), target shooting sites (Pilkington has a nice sale page), local sale papers or online "Craig's List" type sites, word of mouth from friends, etc., etc.
I don't own any, but these later 6800-series sights also work fine, here are pics of alloy and steel ones. Expect to pay a bit more though. Anschutz currently makes some very complex sights that can tilt radially and such, but those have some truly eye-watering price tags!
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Re: Another peep sight question
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October 14, 2021, 11:59:02 AM »
You have been a tremendous help Mike. Your knowledge will certainly aid me and hopefully others in this thread. Thank you.
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Struckat
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Re: Another peep sight question
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October 14, 2021, 12:11:36 PM »
Yes indeed, thank you Mike!
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1377, 1986
“Dan Wesson” 177
P-17
Daisy 717
Daisy 753
1741P
1701P carbine
1720T carbine
2220 carbine
2220 long
HW30, 177
HW95, 177-22
AA s500 Extra fac 22
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