Do you use rings which come with the scope, or do you buy aftermarket rings of a better quality?My most expensive gun is under $600, I have several $100 scopes and only a Leapers that I paid somewhat more than that.I generally use rings that come with the scope but I also have some UTG rings, a set of BKL and others. Nothing very expensive.Some of my scopes seem to cant off to the left side a small bit, I have not checked this with a mirror, but I am thinking it is cheaper rings or mounts causing this. If not it may be my installations. I use levels.So my questions do better quality rings make a big difference? I don't really want to get into paying more for my rings than the scopes they are mounted to. Scope cant can be a big deal particularly on bullpups with hi mounting heights.Thanks in advance
Quote from: superchikn on August 10, 2022, 02:01:53 PMDo you use rings which come with the scope, or do you buy aftermarket rings of a better quality?My most expensive gun is under $600, I have several $100 scopes and only a Leapers that I paid somewhat more than that.I generally use rings that come with the scope but I also have some UTG rings, a set of BKL and others. Nothing very expensive.Some of my scopes seem to cant off to the left side a small bit, I have not checked this with a mirror, but I am thinking it is cheaper rings or mounts causing this. If not it may be my installations. I use levels.So my questions do better quality rings make a big difference? I don't really want to get into paying more for my rings than the scopes they are mounted to. Scope cant can be a big deal particularly on bullpups with hi mounting heights.Thanks in advanceI don't shoot springers, so I am not concerned with large recoil forces, and use whatever comes with the scope. If none, I find that the cheapies, with 4 clamping screws on each ring are just fine. I think the last ones I got were "Sniper" branded.Your "cant" problem needs more description. The scopes always point to the left of POI/barrel bore? On same gun or different guns? Have you stuck a straight edge on the rail to try to eyeball if the rail is the issue? Have you tried reversing the rings so the front is in the back and vice-versa? Are the rings installed such that all the rail clamp screws are all on the right side or all on the left side, and not one one way and the other the other?Sorry if this is insultingly basic, gotta start somewhere...
Nothing taken as an insult.I am referring to PCPs, CO2 and some pumpers. a few different guns.I mount all of my rings with the bolt(s)/lever on the same side.When I say the scope is canted I mean that it appears to be leaning to the left of center front and pack. It is parallel with the barrel and receiver.The leaning to the left is only barely noticeable if you are looking for it.When I mount the scope level with the breach, and I look through the scope my vertical crosshair is to the left of the centerline of breach/barrel and needs to be rotated counterclockwise looking from the rear to align them closely, and it is now out of level a bit. Now that I think about this may be my eyes playing tricks on me. Tonight I will look with my left eye and see what I get.I zero most of my guns at 30 yds and two at 50. I have noticed that when I shoot closer than zero POI is to the left of POA and when I shoot longer it tends to go to the right.Not all of my guns do this but a few do. Guess I better make of record of which guns do what or I'm just p$%&ing up a rope.I do have wheeler Fatwrench.
Quote from: TorqueMaster on August 10, 2022, 04:52:55 PMQuote from: superchikn on August 10, 2022, 02:01:53 PMDo you use rings which come with the scope, or do you buy aftermarket rings of a better quality?My most expensive gun is under $600, I have several $100 scopes and only a Leapers that I paid somewhat more than that.I generally use rings that come with the scope but I also have some UTG rings, a set of BKL and others. Nothing very expensive.Some of my scopes seem to cant off to the left side a small bit, I have not checked this with a mirror, but I am thinking it is cheaper rings or mounts causing this. If not it may be my installations. I use levels.So my questions do better quality rings make a big difference? I don't really want to get into paying more for my rings than the scopes they are mounted to. Scope cant can be a big deal particularly on bullpups with hi mounting heights.Thanks in advanceI don't shoot springers, so I am not concerned with large recoil forces, and use whatever comes with the scope. If none, I find that the cheapies, with 4 clamping screws on each ring are just fine. I think the last ones I got were "Sniper" branded.Your "cant" problem needs more description. The scopes always point to the left of POI/barrel bore? On same gun or different guns? Have you stuck a straight edge on the rail to try to eyeball if the rail is the issue? Have you tried reversing the rings so the front is in the back and vice-versa? Are the rings installed such that all the rail clamp screws are all on the right side or all on the left side, and not one one way and the other the other?Sorry if this is insultingly basic, gotta start somewhere...Nothing taken as an insult.I am referring to PCPs, CO2 and some pumpers. a few different guns.I mount all of my rings with the bolt(s)/lever on the same side.When I say the scope is canted I mean that it appears to be leaning to the left of center front and pack. It is parallel with the barrel and receiver.The leaning to the left is only barely noticeable if you are looking for it.When I mount the scope level with the breach, and I look through the scope my vertical crosshair is to the left of the centerline of breach/barrel and needs to be rotated counterclockwise looking from the rear to align them closely, and it is now out of level a bit. Now that I think about this may be my eyes playing tricks on me. Tonight I will look with my left eye and see what I get.I zero most of my guns at 30 yds and two at 50. I have noticed that when I shoot closer than zero POI is to the left of POA and when I shoot longer it tends to go to the right.Not all of my guns do this but a few do. Guess I better make of record of which guns do what or I'm just p$%&ing up a rope.I do have wheeler Fatwrench.
Buy the cheapest rings you can find and then lap your rings. Otherwise buy a quality set where you believe that they are round and truly centered.-Y