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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2021, 09:30:45 PM »
I'm de-railing my own thread here, but I have to give props to those who go ratting or any other night ops for pesting. Having a (dedicated?) night rig has to be neat. The closest I've come to night pesting was setting up a red lamp above a scope with a illuminated recticle.  Didn't have any action that night so passed on it all together. Now NV equipment is easily accessible and very affordable, depending on how fancy (or not) you want to get.
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2021, 09:46:01 PM »
I've only noticed red squirrels to go after greys. I had no idea they were aggressive towards other animals. I've taken reds on the request of friends and family who don't want to or can't when they become a problem around homes or property.

Raccoons will readily climb a birdhouse pole and raid nests, which is why, in addition to controlling starlings and house sparrows, I also use predator guards on the poles to keep them (raccoons) from being able to get there.
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2021, 09:56:57 PM »
Reds are nasty and around my property always a target. They will take eggs and kill young birds. Always legal here to take them

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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2021, 12:40:00 AM »
Zack, like Lizzie said! And, I think you did the right thing. I saw a couple of crows taunting a Cooper’s hawk....I placed a pellet on the branch the crows were standing on and that ended that. I don’t like anything bullying anything and if it were the hawks messing with a crow I would do the same thing. Last week we had 3 crows in our front yards round garden two had one pinned and I opened the door and shouted and they all flew off....hate that...

At our last house, we had a pair of Cooper's Hawks nesting in one of our trees for 3 years, raised two families, I have literally hundreds of photos of them from hours of watching them, unfortunately I also had the momma and a juvenile in my view finder when a truck came speeding down the street and hit the momma.

I personally witnessed the female knock a crow out of the sky, their little FA18s, people say they rob nests, never saw that once, but I'd be sitting on my steps looking at my pond and you'd hear the thump of one nailing a sparrow or something in mid air.
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2021, 01:00:25 AM »
I settled a dispute with a couple of coons tonight.  They dug up my just planted garden, destroying most plants and seed beds.  I'll have to redo the whole thing now.  They also have been digging up my pretty yard something terrible and climbing up my feeder and tilting it something awful and destroying a spinner next to it they used as a foot stool.  I fired a warning shot right next to them, but they came right back.  I had enough, so I put the .30 cal to work.  What a relief.  I have been putting up with them for nearly a week thinking they may move on.  I feel good about my decision.
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2021, 01:18:36 AM »
Can't have them messing with the garden. That .30 must have done good work.

The last raccoon I took was with my VW. Front end opened like a hallow point, DRT results  ;D

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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2021, 01:34:59 AM »
Can't have them messing with the garden. That .30 must have done good work.

The last raccoon I took was with my VW. Front end opened like a hallow point, DRT results  ;D

I bet that raised the VW up a bit.  At least that's what happened one time with a work van I was driving.  Yes, the .30 handled the job with ease.  One and done for both.  The Titan scope also did its job well in the low light conditions.  Nothing like having the proper tools for the task at hand.
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2021, 01:36:19 AM »
Can't have them messing with the garden. That .30 must have done good work.

The last raccoon I took was with my VW. Front end opened like a hallow point, DRT results  ;D

The raccoon or the VW?    :D
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2021, 01:46:09 AM »
Can't have them messing with the garden. That .30 must have done good work.

The last raccoon I took was with my VW. Front end opened like a hallow point, DRT results  ;D

The raccoon or the VW?    :D

Both!  ;D  ;D ;D

It was the newer polymer tipped Beetle.
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2021, 03:20:43 AM »
Thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately, I can't bring myself to eat squirrels. Rabbits on the other hand are delicious, but haven't had any around in a while. The cat and coyotes REALLY think they're delicious.

I'm not a big fan of squirrel either, but a great aunt cooked some up for us one time and I still use the recipe. You season to taste, pan fry the meat until it browns, cover in milk gravy and simmer until tender. Spoon it over fresh biscuits and enjoy.

where were you when i had to chew rubber and nynon like squirrel meat years ago?
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2021, 03:29:12 AM »

where were you when i had to chew rubber and nynon like squirrel meat years ago?

She was an old Southern lady and she knew how to make the best of what she had. I do try to share the recipe anytime someone mentions eating squirrel. Sorry I didn't get to you sooner.
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2021, 07:55:25 AM »
Reds will chase off anything that is in what they perceive as their territory.  Every summer they move in to my yard when the mulberry tree starts fruiting.  They'll run off any bird or squirrel that comes into that tree.  Some are more aggressive than others, but they all get shot.  Once they're gone that tree is very busy, squirrels (black, gray and fox) and all sorts of birds all day long.  The birds and squirrel occasionally disagree with which berry belongs to who, but it never gets truly violent as long as the reds have been removed.  And none of the other squirrels or birds try to take over that tree as their territory like the reds do.   Reds are mean, aggressive, territorial and destructive, it's in their nature.  Which is why I don't blame them for their behaviour, so I try to be as humane as possible, I go for head shots.  They're shot on sight in my yard, mostly because they like to chew on my garage, but also because I like having the other squirrels and birds in the yard. 
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2021, 12:33:17 PM »
It is not at all unethical to interfere and protect the song birds on your property.  I am the one that decides who stays and who goes on my property, or who preys on who...  I fiercely defend the song birds and their nests on my property, and will chase the Grackles away when they attack and try to kill the young in the Robin, Carolina Wren, and Mourning Dove nests that are on my property (also in my tool shed and under my 2nd fl. porch).  Same with Starlings and squirrels that come to mess with them.  They are all dealt with.  I only shoot them if it is legal.  If I cannot shoot them legally I simply make my presence known or approach the tree or structure where the the mayhem is occurring, and the intruders usually leave in a hurry.  I will not stand listening to the fledglings' screams getting eliminated.  It also amazes me how sometimes 1 of the parents will fly close to me or to a window seeking my help when their nest is under attack.  I have zero tolerance for bullying birds and predators that mess with birds I allow to live on my property.
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2021, 12:55:15 PM »
Can't have them messing with the garden. That .30 must have done good work.

The last raccoon I took was with my VW. Front end opened like a hallow point, DRT results  ;D

The raccoon or the VW?    :D

Both!  ;D  ;D ;D

It was the newer polymer tipped Beetle.

Or HP polymer tipped 15 million grain VW (could be a Golf?)  :)
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2021, 01:38:08 PM »
Aproxamitly 213000fpe at 80fps.
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« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2021, 01:40:45 PM »
I do t typically shoot living creatures but if I need to I have made up my mind I needed it gone for some reasion. Now I seen something one night that made me shake my head was some kids in the house behind me were harassing a rabbit by chasing it around and throwing a branch at it.
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Re: Is it wrong to settle disputes between animals?
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2021, 02:45:04 PM »
I do t typically shoot living creatures but if I need to I have made up my mind I needed it gone for some reasion. Now I seen something one night that made me shake my head was some kids in the house behind me were harassing a rabbit by chasing it around and throwing a branch at it.

you need to suggest him proper airgunning? throwing a stick is "not using the proper tools and without proper airgunning knowledge"
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« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2021, 03:11:43 PM »
Aproxamitly 213000fpe at 80fps.

Haha. It was a TDI, a little better than 361,000 FPE @ 88 fps.  ;)
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« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2021, 03:19:37 PM »
I'd like to thank everyone for their input. Learned a few things, which is always good and had a few laughs. Any input or stories are welcome.

Hope everyone is well, and take easy.
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« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2021, 03:28:24 PM »
I do t typically shoot living creatures but if I need to I have made up my mind I needed it gone for some reasion. Now I seen something one night that made me shake my head was some kids in the house behind me were harassing a rabbit by chasing it around and throwing a branch at it.

you need to suggest him proper airgunning? throwing a stick is "not using the proper tools and without proper airgunning knowledge"

Maybe some day, our yards are not really safe to shoot in.
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