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Offline Norm_m

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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2015, 11:12:42 PM »
Hey Norm
I quoted you here and messed it up. I don't know how to delete, I asked moderators to delete but they haven't got it yet.
 I'm afraid I might have offended you, I apologize if I did. I was trying to be funny but it didn't work! Great shooting.

No problem Tommy there was no offence taken.
Yes shot 10 was so very close but no cigar! Next target will be better!

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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2015, 07:42:29 AM »
Great shooting everyone!  I'll post up the results tonight!
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2015, 09:23:06 PM »
Do y'all use full power for matches? I'm trying medium power as I'm trying to improve enough to stay in the ball park with y'all.
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2015, 09:59:45 PM »
Hey guys, I have enjoyed reading every post, what you shot and what you used. Your all at the top of your game. I am enjoying the competition.
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2015, 10:05:29 PM »
No stalking allowed here Bill , we'll be expecting a target from you soon.
Don't leave your guns at home Bill , bring your guns to town!!
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #65 on: April 21, 2015, 10:12:59 PM »
Do y'all use full power for matches? I'm trying medium power as I'm trying to improve enough to stay in the ball park with y'all.
With a disclaimer that I'm giving you a "book learning" answer Tommy, I suspect you would do fine moving up in power with your 22 Fx r 400.  My understanding is that keeping pellet velocity in the high 800 to low 900 fps range is best for accuracy to stay below approaching the speed of sound, which I've heard leads to some pellet flight stability issues.  With a 22, your shooting heavier pellets that are more likely to stay below this threshold for the same power level.  So in the end, I think it's velocity that you need to keep an eye on more than power.  Velocity also has more bearing on how flat your rifle shoots  - not  a big deal if you know which dot to use, or you are zeroed at 30 yards, but flatter is easier all else being equal.  I don't have an air rifle fast enough to worry about approaching the speed of sound - others with more experience can confirm/correct as needed.

As a point of trivia on this match, for an "average" scope height over the barrel, and pellet velocity ~900 fps, 30 yards is very close (a bit long by a yard or two, but close enough) to the sweet spot for zeroing your scope so you only have one "zero".  By this, I mean that if you are dead on at 30 yards, you need to hold over for both shorter and longer distances, and don't need to worry about holding under for when the pellet is above the line of sight, cause it never is.  Less to keep up with that way.
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #66 on: April 21, 2015, 10:29:03 PM »
Thanks Eric, I didn't make myself clear. I've been shooting full power buy just yesterday decided to try lower power. Not sure which is best for me yet.
Also not sure it will matter at 30 yd.
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #67 on: April 21, 2015, 11:09:51 PM »
I agree with Eric, adding that for a given pellet at higher velocity the shot will be less perturbed by wind.  ie, at higher FPS, the pellet takes less time to target and less time to be thrown off by wind.

But there are other factors to consider.  There may be differences in shot string FPS consistency (extreme spread, SD, etc) between fills at different power settings, which could also affect POI.  And there may be difference in recoil.

Besides running chrony strings you could test empirically by shooting practice targets alternating power setting, and look for differences in average score.
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2015, 09:05:58 AM »
Thanks y'all, may I ask a question and argue with the answer?
I think that serious shooters , Olympics and stuff like that, use those 500 fps guns?
I thought it was because they are more accurate but maybe it hast a rule and nothing to do with accuracy?
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #69 on: April 22, 2015, 10:26:00 AM »
That's only for 10 meter Tom.
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #70 on: April 22, 2015, 10:31:45 AM »
That's only for 10 meter Tom.

Thanks P, that makes sense.
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2015, 10:21:10 PM »
That's only for 10 meter Tom.

Thanks P, that makes sense.

Hey Tommy .... in regard to full power .... I always use full power with my SPRINGER!  The shooter may not be full power.  I think it was Confucius who said ... "Man who shoot at lower power, go off half-cocked"   :o   :P

Just messin' around .....

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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2015, 09:21:04 AM »
I shot about 100 at 2/3 power, around 700 fps if memory serves me which ain't likely, anyway somewhere in the 100 shots, I thought it was gona shoot same accuracy as full power but then it seemed to get worse so I'm back to full.
I say "seemed" to get worse because I'm seldom sure if it's me,wind,pellets, gun or what!
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2015, 09:31:40 AM »
That's only for 10 meter Tom.

Thanks P, that makes sense.

Hey Tommy .... in regard to full power .... I always use full power with my SPRINGER!  The shooter may not be full power.  I think it was Confucius who said ... "Man who shoot at lower power, go off half-cocked"   :o   :P

Just messin' around .....

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Just so you know what a dummy you're dealing with Pappy, I thought u were serious at first.
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Re: Post 30 Yard Rested Air Rifle Match 2 Year 7 Scores Here
« Reply #74 on: April 23, 2015, 03:07:53 PM »
That's only for 10 meter Tom.

Thanks P, that makes sense.

Hey Tommy .... in regard to full power .... I always use full power with my SPRINGER!  The shooter may not be full power.  I think it was Confucius who said ... "Man who shoot at lower power, go off half-cocked"   :o   :P

Just messin' around .....

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Just so you know what a dummy you're dealing with Pappy, I thought u were serious at first.

That's funny ....  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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