Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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c801tfd
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Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 22, 2021, 03:55:36 AM »
I bought this train wreck of what I have been told is an early to mid 1930s Crosman 101 (SN P6103) for rebuild experience. It is not finished, but thanks to Rick at Precision Pellet for his advise, parts and seal kit, JG Airguns and Baker Airguns repair tool and parts Rick did not have on hand it pumps, hold air and shoots very well.
Someone decided to tear into this rifle many years ago but did a really bad job. The barrel and compression tube bear the scars of what looks like a pipe wrench. The leather seal and felt were gone, the compression tube was inked and scared by either the trigger or that pipe wrench, either way that got replaced with a new compression tube with an o-ring (Rick cut the groove and installed the o-ring). During my initial order of parts from Rick I purchased a Brass Muzzle Plug and new lever pin, also Rick convinced me to abandon the idea of a leather seal and set me up with a synthetic pump cup and rod assembly. I told Rick it still had the conical seal and needed a seal kit, he sent me a new conical seal and correct seals for this rifle. I found the tube band and another muzzle/cocking lever pin and brass exhaust valve spring at JG Airguns and purchased the Crosman repair tool and hammer spring from Baker Airguns. While waiting for all the needed parts to come in I refinished the wood forearm and butt stock. Now I am in the process of making a new cork spacer for the action to stock location and contemplating what to do with the barrel and comp tube finish.
Again it is still a ways from finished but it does function once again and thats all I wanted to confirm today. Here are some before and current state pictures to show progress:
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Beeman R1 Santa Rosa; Sheridan Model C BS (52/53); Model C "SS (53/54)
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Beeman San Rafael FWB 127 Sport; Benjamin 132 1946; 312 - 40's; 312 - 1956; Crosman Model 99 X 2; 101 1930-38 Disc Logo; 101 - 1925-29 Straight Logo X 4; 102 - 1929 Checkered Stocks x 3; 114 - 1950-55; 140 1st var thumb cock; 140 2nd Var; 120; 362; 362 - 100 year Anniversary Edition; 1322 Phase II; Diana 34 T06; 35; Falke Model 70; Hatsan Model 95; Haenel Model III DRP 10/1927; Model I DRP 1-12-1935; Rochester - DT Fletcher; Ruger Impact Max Elite; Sig Sauer ASP20; S & W 77A ; Winchester 427
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 22, 2021, 05:43:54 PM »
This post is quite "timely" for me as I too have acquired a 101 in need of rebuild.
In my past experiance Rick at precision Pellet is a great guy.
The hold up so far was the special tool needed (and time). Good to know Baker sells the tool.
I think a pipe wrench was a common tool back in the day!
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 22, 2021, 06:27:49 PM »
Is this the tool you bought?
https://www.bakerairguns.com/product/t1-t5-tool-for-crosman/
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c801tfd
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 22, 2021, 07:15:21 PM »
Scott
Thats the tool, if you buy the reseal kit for the 101 from him the tool is knocked down to half price. I selected this option as I have a late model 101 that takes the seals in his kit (non conical seal).
Baker also sells the tools for the Benjamin 31X series as well and also the bolt removal tool for the Sheridans.
As for Rick (Precision Pellet), I think I will be buying more 101 and 102 project guns to to order parts and talk to him, such a fantastic man and a true wealth of knowledge on what to do and will even guide you to others when he does not have what you need.
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Montana, USA
.177:
2 Beeman San Rafael FWB 124 Sport Deluxe JNC Stamp (77/78); (80/81);R7 Santa Rosa; HW77 (1984); BSF 55N; BSF 35; BSF S60; Crosman 100 1948 x 2; 113 - 50-55; 147 BP - 1968; Diana Model 25A 20's-30s; EM-GE Krone DRGM 1936; Feinwerkbau Sport; B3-1; Marksman 70; Colt Commander; Weihrauch HW55MM; Winchester XSU 1100
.20:
Beeman R1 Santa Rosa; Sheridan Model C BS (52/53); Model C "SS (53/54)
.22:
Beeman San Rafael FWB 127 Sport; Benjamin 132 1946; 312 - 40's; 312 - 1956; Crosman Model 99 X 2; 101 1930-38 Disc Logo; 101 - 1925-29 Straight Logo X 4; 102 - 1929 Checkered Stocks x 3; 114 - 1950-55; 140 1st var thumb cock; 140 2nd Var; 120; 362; 362 - 100 year Anniversary Edition; 1322 Phase II; Diana 34 T06; 35; Falke Model 70; Hatsan Model 95; Haenel Model III DRP 10/1927; Model I DRP 1-12-1935; Rochester - DT Fletcher; Ruger Impact Max Elite; Sig Sauer ASP20; S & W 77A ; Winchester 427
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Hatsan Model 125 Sniper
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 22, 2021, 09:01:12 PM »
Agree 100%
I met Baker at Ka-zoo swap meet... we spoke a long while in person on my vintage guns.
I have spoken to Rick at Precision Pellet on the phone and he too is a wealth of knowledge. I have bought many parts from him and recommend him often.
I already have the reseal kit (with springs) I got off ebay from Henry Ford.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174736899879?ViewItem=&item=174736899879
The special tool is what I was lacking.
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 22, 2021, 10:08:26 PM »
Scott, why not roll your own...
Go to the hardware store (bring your calipers) and get a 6-point socket that is just under .750" in o.d. Then grind the tool:
Pick up some extensions while you're there (if you need them) and it's good to go:
Sorry for the brief hijack
, but I wanted to show what some folks (me) do when they don't want to wait
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 22, 2021, 11:25:19 PM »
Looking good! Does it have a cast logo or a riveted on disc logo?
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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What a beauty!
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 23, 2021, 12:43:47 AM »
OTmachine
It has the disk logo, here are a few more before and after pictures.
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Last Edit: April 23, 2021, 12:52:05 AM by c801tfd
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Montana, USA
.177:
2 Beeman San Rafael FWB 124 Sport Deluxe JNC Stamp (77/78); (80/81);R7 Santa Rosa; HW77 (1984); BSF 55N; BSF 35; BSF S60; Crosman 100 1948 x 2; 113 - 50-55; 147 BP - 1968; Diana Model 25A 20's-30s; EM-GE Krone DRGM 1936; Feinwerkbau Sport; B3-1; Marksman 70; Colt Commander; Weihrauch HW55MM; Winchester XSU 1100
.20:
Beeman R1 Santa Rosa; Sheridan Model C BS (52/53); Model C "SS (53/54)
.22:
Beeman San Rafael FWB 127 Sport; Benjamin 132 1946; 312 - 40's; 312 - 1956; Crosman Model 99 X 2; 101 1930-38 Disc Logo; 101 - 1925-29 Straight Logo X 4; 102 - 1929 Checkered Stocks x 3; 114 - 1950-55; 140 1st var thumb cock; 140 2nd Var; 120; 362; 362 - 100 year Anniversary Edition; 1322 Phase II; Diana 34 T06; 35; Falke Model 70; Hatsan Model 95; Haenel Model III DRP 10/1927; Model I DRP 1-12-1935; Rochester - DT Fletcher; Ruger Impact Max Elite; Sig Sauer ASP20; S & W 77A ; Winchester 427
.25:
Hatsan Model 125 Sniper
c801tfd
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 23, 2021, 12:57:44 AM »
Last few pictures of my project 101.
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Montana, USA
.177:
2 Beeman San Rafael FWB 124 Sport Deluxe JNC Stamp (77/78); (80/81);R7 Santa Rosa; HW77 (1984); BSF 55N; BSF 35; BSF S60; Crosman 100 1948 x 2; 113 - 50-55; 147 BP - 1968; Diana Model 25A 20's-30s; EM-GE Krone DRGM 1936; Feinwerkbau Sport; B3-1; Marksman 70; Colt Commander; Weihrauch HW55MM; Winchester XSU 1100
.20:
Beeman R1 Santa Rosa; Sheridan Model C BS (52/53); Model C "SS (53/54)
.22:
Beeman San Rafael FWB 127 Sport; Benjamin 132 1946; 312 - 40's; 312 - 1956; Crosman Model 99 X 2; 101 1930-38 Disc Logo; 101 - 1925-29 Straight Logo X 4; 102 - 1929 Checkered Stocks x 3; 114 - 1950-55; 140 1st var thumb cock; 140 2nd Var; 120; 362; 362 - 100 year Anniversary Edition; 1322 Phase II; Diana 34 T06; 35; Falke Model 70; Hatsan Model 95; Haenel Model III DRP 10/1927; Model I DRP 1-12-1935; Rochester - DT Fletcher; Ruger Impact Max Elite; Sig Sauer ASP20; S & W 77A ; Winchester 427
.25:
Hatsan Model 125 Sniper
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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April 23, 2021, 06:52:37 AM »
Great Job Elroy!
And Gary Thanks for the pic of the calipers, that helped me a lot!
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Re: Early to Mid 1930s Crosman 101 Lives Again, but not Finished Yet
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Quote from: c801tfd on April 23, 2021, 12:43:47 AM
OTmachine
It has the disk logo, here are a few more before and after pictures.
The one that I have, bought from 45Flint in Kalamazoo
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