For shear vibration dampening, you want the denser the better. Most 10 M stocks are a laminate.Just walnut is so much purdier... -Y
So Walnut is less dense-lighter -and the 200 gram difference Air Arms shows on their TX 200 is correct
OKThanks for your comments, greatly useful.Some notes about woods:Vibration dampening is not ABSOLUTELY related to density. While Beech is heavier, it is ALSO more "dampening" as Yogi said.Lightness in a gun as far as accuracy goes MAY not be detrimetal, but reduction in the damping response to the typical airgun frequencies is detrimental to the USER.Reason is simple: Humans "hear" through THREE different channels, depending on the frequency and intensity of the sound pressure wave;For mid to high frequencies humans can hear through the ears AND through the bones, especially those mechanical sounds that can be transmitted through the jaw/cheekbones.Some people that have "artillery hearing" can experiment tinnitus after the first few shots with a hollow synthetic stock. Younger/healthier persons can shoot these guns indefinitely without problems.Over 100 years of airgun making have shown that spring-piston airguns are more "comfy" to shoot with beech stocks.I have ONE walntut stock for airguns. It is a 54 Tyrolean. I like that stock a LOT, but for offhand shots. It's too low a LOS to use even with small, low mounted scopes.I USED to have a TX200 in a gorgeous Walnut stock. After 5 shots I decided to sell it.Difference between the guns? The sled system in the 54.Not everyone will have the same reaction, again, people that have been under very loud noises and are just short of a permanent tinnitus, do not like spring-piston airguns in Synthetic or in Walnut stocks.Why does Turkey have so much, and quite good, walnut? Because mid-Eastern food uses a LOT of pistachios, walnuts, and pecans and has done so for the last 2,000 years, so they have been sowing walnuts (among other trees) for many generations.Turkey has had a nice climate for just as long, which has been a reason for people to use those fruits that are plentiful.Walnuts have a special life cycle: They start yielding fruit when they are 6-8 years old, then they are fruitful for about a century and a half and then, even when they are still growing, the are no longer commercially viable, so the wood provides an alternate value and creates space for new trees.Just like the Europeans have been planting/sowing beech for the last 200 years (especially in Spain and Italy), the Turks have been planting/sowing Walnuts for the last 2,000 years.Aluminum stocks do NOT work well for airguns above 6-7 ft-lbs. Most experiments that have been made result in drastic POI changes/ thermal instability, and overall harsh shot cycle.The exception would be the "Effezetta" stocks, that incorporate a recoil-elimination sled in their design.Walnut stocks for the DIANA's MAY be a possibility for the long term future, but I really mean long term.A beech, or laminated "Pro" stock for the 460 is being considered seriously.Thanks again!HM
I don't see the standard Diana 34 in the catalogue. Is it being phased out by the EMS version??
Quote from: McNally M. on April 13, 2021, 04:25:21 PMI don't see the standard Diana 34 in the catalogue. Is it being phased out by the EMS version??Yep. Might still be some of the now obsolete 34's out there if you poke around enough (Numrich was selling .177's for $200 and might still have a few) but the 34 EMS is replacing it.
can be found here:https://www.diana-airguns.de/fileadmin/Editoren/PDF-Downloads/Publkationen/DIANA_Katalog_2021_web.pdf A FEW comments to start off the conversation:- The 280 is OFF the catalogue, there may be some remaining in stock, but it has been definitely dropped.- The 54 Pro is now the Flagship of the "Performance" line (made in Germany).- The K98 spring version has also been dropped, it is now available ONLY in PCP format under the "Action" line (Made in CHINA).- The 350 Mag, Classic and Panther remain, as do the 48, 460, and LP-8- There is a new LP-5 (spring-piston pistol) part of the Action line.- Stormrider, Bandit, Airbug, Trailscout, Chaser, 240, 250, 260, 21 and Eleven, as well as the Oktoberfest Gewehr round the Action line.- DIANA now has a RF action, suitable for both lengths of RF 0.22's.Bunch of fun accessories round up the catalogue.Hope you find it amusing to peruse.Keep well and shoot straight!HM
There are world-wide problems with supply-chains.We had programmed the accessories / parts to be ready by July/August, but I doubt very much that this deadline will be met.We still cannot get the 0.177" cal. 54 Pro's made, so that already means a 17 - 20 months "lateness".The more time we spend in taking half-a__ed measures about the Virus, the longer it will take to get everything back on track.Sorry, but these things are totally out of everyone's control.HM