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Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« on: May 29, 2017, 07:15:16 PM »
I'm new here and have a Question. I have a .25 Sumatra carbine and wanted to know if it's ethical to hunt hogs with it?  My feeder is 40 yards from tree stand.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2017, 07:17:19 PM »
If you are producing at least 60 fpe, yes.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2017, 07:18:48 PM »
I shoot a 34.7 gr @ 950 fps = over 70 fpe.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2017, 07:53:36 PM »
Since you posted in Manny's Corner, I'm sure he'll chime in sooner or later. But, I do believe he's killed more than few hogs with Sumatra carbine.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2017, 08:06:53 PM »
Been shooting kodiaks 31 grains. First shot 1000 fps.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2017, 08:17:05 PM »
That's  68.85 fpe. That's plenty
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2017, 08:51:57 PM »
Where would be the best place to shoot in the head at 40 yards?  Should I get heavier ammo?
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2017, 09:00:17 PM »
Between the ear and eye.  Domes work best.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2017, 09:04:57 PM »
 Heavier ammo is a good idea. Even if it slows your velocity down a bit, it evens out.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2017, 09:28:35 PM »
What would be a good weight? Tried eunjin 43 grains but not accurate. They shoot 900 fps
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2017, 09:31:50 PM »
The JSB 34 gr. You can also check out Nielsen Spec ammo. 39gr. Rat Sniper ammo too.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2017, 10:06:48 PM »
What size  is the barrel of Sumatra carbine in .25.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2017, 10:15:56 PM »
What size  is the barrel of Sumatra carbine in .25.

Are you wanting length or exact caliber?
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2017, 10:51:01 PM »
Caliber for ordering cast ammo
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2017, 01:24:02 AM »
Manny is the man.

He typically takes two kinds of shots to the head.
1. Front of head between and above the eyes when the pig is looking down. Pellet needs to hit direct 90 degrees to forehead, otherwise pellet may bounce off instead of penetrating.
2.Between eye and ear.

In .25 I believe Manny likes the Crosman Premiers with normal round head because it is a harder lead and does a good job of penetrating skull.

Number 2? Maybe JSB Heavies.

Number 3: perhaps the Eun Jin 43.6 grains. I find them highly accurate. The 36 grains, not so much.

Sumatra Carbine tends to not be pellet picky.

Manny has a great post or two on pig anatomy. Search for it and you'll find pig skulls to study
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2017, 07:08:28 AM »
What size  is the barrel of Sumatra carbine in .25.

.252 -.254 ammo works best in my carbine. It'll push a 43g Eun Jin 900fps.
H&N Baracudas work well. Consistent accuracy & good penetration. But needs the power wheel throttled back or they shoot too fast for accuracy. I also shoot 41g BBT slugs sized to .252 with good results.
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2017, 10:31:56 AM »
Looked on Nielsen website but all I could find were .250. What are bbt slugs?
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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2017, 11:27:26 AM »
Just use Benjamin domes and do brain shot.  The Benjamins are harder lead than most pellets and will penetrate the skull easier.  Here is a video of a person killing 2 pigs with a 22 cal Sumatra

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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2017, 11:30:11 AM »
Looked on Nielsen website but all I could find were .250. What are bbt slugs?

.250 is too small IMO. I can't get them to even stay in the magazine.

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Re: Sumatra .25 carbine and wild hogs
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2017, 11:40:30 AM »
It takes some trial and error to find a slug that will outperform pellets in small bore guns.  I've tried several different slugs in my sumatra and have yet to find one that outperform the pellets that shoot well in it.  I would just use whatever pellet that works great in your gun and concentrate on hitting a good shot.  You have enough energy to get the job done so shot placement is the key.
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