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Title: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 26, 2020, 01:53:08 AM
let me say 1st that this gun shooting the 50gr JSB at 100 FPE is a beast ;D ;D

and since it's sitting in this ugly Winchester stock it's perfect to take around the bush without worrying of ruining a nice stock  ;D ;D

So, I riactivated my Feeder after months of inactivity,
today I was watching 5 nice medium/small hogs doing their thing and battling for the corn  ;D ;D ;D when a noticed a serious sow approaching,

but she never came to the bucket, she stopped about 20-25 yards from it and just stud there watching, completely immobile,
 after a bit a couldn't take it no more so I re-position myself, found a gap through the trees and sent a 50gr JSb to the temple

(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Harvests/DSCF2044_zpsy23hlye3.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Harvests/DSCF2044_zpsy23hlye3.jpg.html)

(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Harvests/DSCF2049_zpsespsywc0.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Harvests/DSCF2049_zpsespsywc0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Bryan Heimann on January 26, 2020, 02:09:15 AM
Very nice  8)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: A.K.A. Tommy Boy on January 26, 2020, 07:33:43 AM
Nice Hog....Congratulations Manny.      Good shooting.   


Best Wishes - Tom
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 26, 2020, 10:01:28 AM
Thanks brother Tommy :)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Hobbyman2007 on January 26, 2020, 11:11:13 AM
I really don’t know what Winchester was thinking. That is one of the ugliest stocks I’ve seen. If it was my only gun I would get in touch with Boyd’s and get a nice laminate for it. But you know what they say , imitation is the highest form of flattery. I put mine in a 10-22 folding stock just like Manny. It was kind of wobbly but I took care of that with some epoxy and cross pins. Now she’s rock solid.

Oh ya , nice hog .  8)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 26, 2020, 11:34:19 AM
I really don’t know what Winchester was thinking. That is one of the ugliest stocks I’ve seen. If it was my only gun I would get in touch with Boyd’s and get a nice laminate for it. But you know what they say , imitation is the highest form of flattery. I put mine in a 10-22 folding stock just like Manny. It was kind of wobbly but I took care of that with some epoxy and cross pins. Now she’s rock solid.

Oh ya , nice hog .  8)


Ya my friend you are sooo right, super ugly this Winchester stock ( perfect for dragging through bushes and banging rocks :) :)  )

But I have this beautiful stock at home if I want to dress my .30 in some fine clothes :) :)


(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1214_zpsa33a9096.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1214_zpsa33a9096.jpg.html)

(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1213_zpsd220e5d6.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1213_zpsd220e5d6.jpg.html)

(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1212_zps456d5c6c.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1212_zps456d5c6c.jpg.html)

(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/DSCF1211_zps19c1641a.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/guns/DSCF1211_zps19c1641a.jpg.html)


Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 26, 2020, 12:35:28 PM
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Harvests/DSCF2045_zpsdsmp2que.jpg) (https://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/Harvests/DSCF2045_zpsdsmp2que.jpg.html)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Pellet Fun on January 26, 2020, 01:14:03 PM
Yeah Manny, butt ugly stock for a butt ugly sow. How old do you think that sow was?

   ;)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 26, 2020, 01:20:01 PM
Yeah Manny, butt ugly stock for a butt ugly sow. How old do you think that sow was?

   ;)

Old, she looked pretty slow.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Sqrl Klr on January 26, 2020, 01:22:22 PM
Nice! How many of them have you killed now over the years do you know?

Right when I got into bed last night my trail cams sent pictures to my phone showing hogs just arrived to start tearing up my yard so I got dressed and grabbed my rifle plus my hunting headlamp then went out and spotted some at the beginning of my trail 50yds away so offhand I shot a black one around 100lbs but the others ran away into the woods before I could get another one. 
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Pellet Fun on January 26, 2020, 01:27:41 PM
You mentioned it held off from the others. I've noticed this with big game fish too when over 100 miles offshore. They get big from experience.

Very nice kill too on that sow.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 26, 2020, 01:29:23 PM
Nice! How many of them have you killed now over the years do you know?

Right when I got into bed last night my trail cams sent pictures to my phone showing hogs just arrived to start tearing up my yard so I got dressed and grabbed my rifle plus my hunting headlamp then went out and spotted some at the beginning of my trail 50yds away so offhand I shot a black one around 100lbs but the others ran away into the woods before I could get another one. 


Ho boy, no idea

I think quite a few :) :) :)

Good job keeping them at bay, once they find a place they like they are relentless.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 26, 2020, 01:31:49 PM
You mentioned it held off from the others. I've noticed this with big game fish too when over 100 miles offshore. They get big from experience.

Very nice kill too on that sow.

Yeah she was definitely careful,
it felt good having to reset very carefully to actually get the shot,...felt more like hunting then just shooting of a pre-set position :) :)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: VaporTrail on January 27, 2020, 01:28:22 AM
nice harvest!

Almost had a shot over the weekend, but there were too many things in the way. LP gas canisters, a smoker, a table.  :o

I mean, I'm sure I could have threaded that shot, but the gas canisters kinda had me thinking twice.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Sqrl Klr on January 27, 2020, 01:32:44 AM
Nice! How many of them have you killed now over the years do you know?

Right when I got into bed last night my trail cams sent pictures to my phone showing hogs just arrived to start tearing up my yard so I got dressed and grabbed my rifle plus my hunting headlamp then went out and spotted some at the beginning of my trail 50yds away so offhand I shot a black one around 100lbs but the others ran away into the woods before I could get another one. 


Ho boy, no idea

I think quite a few :) :) :)

Good job keeping them at bay, once they find a place they like they are relentless.


I'm guessing in the 100s because you've been posting kills here for years. They'll find out the hard way like the others have that they royally messed up picking my place because I'm more determined to protect my property than they are to destroy it.

Continued success!
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 27, 2020, 12:58:59 PM
Nice! How many of them have you killed now over the years do you know?

Right when I got into bed last night my trail cams sent pictures to my phone showing hogs just arrived to start tearing up my yard so I got dressed and grabbed my rifle plus my hunting headlamp then went out and spotted some at the beginning of my trail 50yds away so offhand I shot a black one around 100lbs but the others ran away into the woods before I could get another one. 


Ho boy, no idea

I think quite a few :) :) :)

Good job keeping them at bay, once they find a place they like they are relentless.


I'm guessing in the 100s because you've been posting kills here for years. They'll find out the hard way like the others have that they royally messed up picking my place because I'm more determined to protect my property than they are to destroy it.

Continued success!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 27, 2020, 01:04:16 PM
nice harvest!

Almost had a shot over the weekend, but there were too many things in the way. LP gas canisters, a smoker, a table.  :o

I mean, I'm sure I could have threaded that shot, but the gas canisters kinda had me thinking twice.


2 reasons I moved from bowhunting to airgun hunting :

1st,

the ability of dropping them on the spot,....often tracking here turns into a nightmare and you could be walking feet from a downed pig several times and not spot them,....Elefant grass id brutal !!!

2nd

The ability to thread the precise shot past obstacles, ....often bowhunting I would get close but still to many trees to be able to thread an arrow in there.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: VaporTrail on January 29, 2020, 12:24:59 AM
I hear ya, bruddah. The jungle at the ranch is wicked; bamboo, trees and rocks on one side, vines, more trees and cliff on the other side. We've lost a couple of pigs that ran into the jungle; they were right under our feet but we couldn't see them with all the vegetation.

We could certainly smell them a couple days later.  :o
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 29, 2020, 01:07:51 AM
I hear ya, bruddah. The jungle at the ranch is wicked; bamboo, trees and rocks on one side, vines, more trees and cliff on the other side. We've lost a couple of pigs that ran into the jungle; they were right under our feet but we couldn't see them with all the vegetation.

We could certainly smell them a couple days later.  :o


Yep, that's why if you live in areas like we live,...Brain shot is king.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: steveoh on January 29, 2020, 01:14:12 AM
Good shooting Manny. Always good to experience your hunts through your words and images.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Sqrl Klr on January 29, 2020, 03:43:49 AM
Nice! How many of them have you killed now over the years do you know?

Right when I got into bed last night my trail cams sent pictures to my phone showing hogs just arrived to start tearing up my yard so I got dressed and grabbed my rifle plus my hunting headlamp then went out and spotted some at the beginning of my trail 50yds away so offhand I shot a black one around 100lbs but the others ran away into the woods before I could get another one. 


Ho boy, no idea

I think quite a few :) :) :)

Good job keeping them at bay, once they find a place they like they are relentless.


I'm guessing in the 100s because you've been posting kills here for years. They'll find out the hard way like the others have that they royally messed up picking my place because I'm more determined to protect my property than they are to destroy it.

Continued success!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I got a white spotted boar tonight. Short details mentioned HERE (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=159293.msg155889816#msg155889816) in the Backroom.

So far as finding dead hogs the use of a dog to sniff them out then bark until you arrive is the best and cheapest option day or night. A thermal cam is a good option too but expensive and same with a drone.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on January 29, 2020, 11:49:02 AM
Yeahhh, dog, termal, drone all great,

me I don't have any :) :) :)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Rocker1 on February 01, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
 I found Manny over on the Black years ago The black is a New zealand airgun forum, here was this guy killing pigs way back then with a air rifle, I sent him a message asked him to check us out, He has been here ever since.  David
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 01, 2020, 01:04:04 PM
I found Manny over on the Black years ago The black is a New zealand airgun forum, here was this guy killing pigs way back then with a air rifle, I sent him a message asked him to check us out, He has been here ever since.  David


:) :) :) yeah, that's right :) :)

those where different days indeed,

Back then there was virtually no information in hog hunting with air rifles, and the little that was out there was exclusively with big bores.

When I started harvesting hogs with Small bore air rifles I got a lot of push back from the established crew at the "Yellow" and "Adventures in airguns"

I got called all kinds of names for a long time, but I knew that what I was doing was efficient and ethical so I kept on.

........Look where we are now, hog hunting with small bore is normal today and a farly common practice :)


And thanks David,...GTA is the golden standard.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Pellet Fun on February 01, 2020, 01:25:30 PM
Yeah Manny, I get the practice of using a big bore, but when did it dawn on you to take head shots with small bore air rifles.

I've been interested in hog hunting since I was a kid tagging along with my Pop. The use of air rifles never occurred to me. Somebody was cutting edge...You!!!
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 01, 2020, 01:47:57 PM
Yeah Manny, I get the practice of using a big bore, but when did it dawn on you to take head shots with small bore air rifles.

I've been interested in hog hunting since I was a kid tagging along with my Pop. The use of air rifles never occurred to me. Somebody was cutting edge...You!!!


My 1st two Big bores where an Career Ultra .357 and a Sam Yang 909 .45

....my next Airgun was a Rainstorm I .22, as I was shooting it I couldn't believe how hard it was hitting with the EunJin 28gr pellets,

that made me d extensive testing for penetration on a huge variety of mediums, I quickly realized that with that power and how precise the gun was, Brain shots on pigs where very duable, matter of fact I got 2 pigs with the Rainstorm before I got any with the .357 and .45

It's been an adventure ever since :) :)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Sqrl Klr on February 03, 2020, 01:27:32 AM
I found Manny over on the Black years ago The black is a New zealand airgun forum, here was this guy killing pigs way back then with a air rifle, I sent him a message asked him to check us out, He has been here ever since.  David


:) :) :) yeah, that's right :) :)

those where different days indeed,

Back then there was virtually no information in hog hunting with air rifles, and the little that was out there was exclusively with big bores.

When I started harvesting hogs with Small bore air rifles I got a lot of push back from the established crew at the "Yellow" and "Adventures in airguns"

I got called all kinds of names for a long time, but I knew that what I was doing was efficient and ethical so I kept on.

........Look where we are now, hog hunting with small bore is normal today and a farly common practice :)


And thanks David,...GTA is the golden standard.

Turns out I killed 2 in 1 shot without knowing it. My post about it is HERE (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=159293.msg155892820#msg155892820) and goes along with what you said above too btw. People still throw shade about killing hogs with smaller calibers despite proof such as what I listed in my other message that they work fine.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 03, 2020, 12:12:43 PM
Yep, you hear thinks like " I shot one with my 30/30 and it bounced off its skull"

Well,.....you took the wrong shot !!!!

If you take the right shot a powerful small bore pellet gun is sufficient,....it's all about the perfect placement at the perfect angle

Overwhelming power will not let you always get away with sloppiness.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Rocker1 on February 03, 2020, 05:50:51 PM
 Im waiting on when he kills one with a slingshot, I sure wouldnt put it past him. David
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Bryan Heimann on February 03, 2020, 08:15:54 PM
Im waiting on when he kills one with a slingshot, I sure wouldnt put it past him. David

Or a blowgun.  If anyone could pull it off it's him.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Sqrl Klr on February 03, 2020, 09:05:50 PM
Bryan I've seen a guy(Tim Wells) kill a black bear with a blowgun on his tv show recently so it's possible. He's speared them too like hogs but I posted a pic of him here holding his blowgun staying perfectly still on the ground with a bear standing right next to him at the bait pile. It got within 5ft of him, looked at him for a few seconds then cautiously grabbed a donut and walked away. Tim has cojones that clang! If Tim can kill a bear with a blowgun I know Manny can kill a hog with one.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 03, 2020, 11:52:29 PM
Several years ago I made an Obsidian tipped spear,.....I think that will be my next try :) :) :)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Blowpipe Sam on February 04, 2020, 12:47:32 AM
Check out Bob Berg at Thunderbird Atlatl.  Bob did some hunting down here about three years back and he and his buddies bagged several porkers with spears.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 04, 2020, 12:53:47 AM
My spear isn't made for throwing but for lunging at :)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Blowpipe Sam on February 04, 2020, 12:56:56 AM
My spear isn't made for throwing but for lunging at :)
Man, that is hard core.  Old style pig sticking!  Mano a sus scrofus!   ;D
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 18, 2020, 04:48:47 PM
Was in the woods yesterday so I checked out the skull from the big saw

(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF2139_zps4nqmophk.jpg) (https://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF2139_zps4nqmophk.jpg.html)

(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF2138_zps3uisqwi6.jpg) (https://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF2138_zps3uisqwi6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on February 18, 2020, 04:49:35 PM
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF2139_zps4nqmophk.jpg) (https://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF2139_zps4nqmophk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Sqrl Klr on March 02, 2020, 11:10:02 PM
I can't remember Manny do you spot and stalk, bait and shoot from a blind or stand? I had 9 show up last night in my yard but they spooked before I could get a shot off. Because of swirling wind I suspect they winded me. Didn't do hardly any yard damage for me to have to fix at least.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 02, 2020, 11:18:35 PM
I can't remember Manny do you spot and stalk, bait and shoot from a blind or stand? I had 9 show up last night in my yard but they spooked before I could get a shot off. Because of swirling wind I suspect they winded me. Didn't do hardly any yard damage for me to have to fix at least.


I do them all,

My favorite by far is Spot and stalk/Still hunting, but baiting is by far the most conducive to have more of a chance, which by the way it's by no means a given even if you sit on bait

Today I was actually scouting a new place to hang a feeder
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Sqrl Klr on March 04, 2020, 01:39:15 AM
Do you bait on your property and stalk in a public jungle nearby? If I had a feeder I'd have a programmable one with a remote switch to accustom them to hearing the feeder release the corn and being fed safely every day at dusk for a few days then sock it to em from my stand one evening. I've seen some hogs come back to feed right after gun shots and other times when hunters go out to collect their dead too but that is more common with bow hunting.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 04, 2020, 06:22:22 PM
Do you bait on your property and stalk in a public jungle nearby? If I had a feeder I'd have a programmable one with a remote switch to accustom them to hearing the feeder release the corn and being fed safely every day at dusk for a few days then sock it to em from my stand one evening. I've seen some hogs come back to feed right after gun shots and other times when hunters go out to collect their dead too but that is more common with bow hunting.


I place feeders in the mountains, private properties, Airgun Hunting isn't aloud in Pubblic land here.


This is how I set up my feeder

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=168850.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=168850.0)

Starts the 1st feed at 3 PM
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Sqrl Klr on March 05, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Not allowed there yet anyway. Maybe someday.

That's right I remember that thread. Such a beautiful place there.
Title: Re: More Winchester .30 hunting.
Post by: Nomadic Pirate on March 05, 2020, 03:20:26 AM
Luckily I can hunt Public lands with my bow, so many good places I know, it would be nice if they opened them to airgunning