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Field Trial 101 Advice
« on: May 30, 2021, 12:20:31 AM »
I'm looking for some "Field Trial 101" advice.  Not so much the rules, those I can read in the rules book, but the other information like what to bring, expect, and the other things I don't know "that I don't know".   So far my Google-Fu has failed me.

I found some FT events, a couple of hours drive, coming up that I would like to participate in. 
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Re: Field Trial 101 Advice
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2021, 11:55:52 AM »
 That can vary on the class of FT you are planning to shoot, let us know then we can narrow it down.  ;)
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Re: Field Trial 101 Advice
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2021, 02:23:02 PM »
Stephen,  I'm not the best person to answer this,  but I hear only crickets.
I won't mention water, bug spray, sunscreen etc, but you will be there for 3 or 4 hours.

There are different subdivisions of field target in the United States. 
There is provisions for rifle, and pistol, not too many pistol shooters.

Rifle FT:
There is the original English 12 foot pounds energy maximum power in 177, 20 or 22 cal.
So a 12 fpe rifle, something to sit on, often a plastic 3 or 5 gallon bucket with lid, and a monopod or bipod that doesn't connect to the rifle. You may also bring a rolled up towel or something to put under your ankle while shooting from the kneeling position.
To sum it up:
Rifle, bucket, shooting sticks, ankle support.
And of course, pellets; good luck with that!.
Truly, you can still enjoy FT if all you have is the rifle and pellets!

Hunter FT:
Same, except up to 20 FPE rifle.

Worlds:
Rifle not more than 12 FPE,
Something to sit on that's no more than 6 inches tall.
Ankle support.

Open, IDK. ( I don't know )

H. T. H. ( Hope This Helps )

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I am certain that going to a few matches will improve the real world hunting skills of anyone.  I really think that FT would improve the skillset of bow hunters, powder burner hunters, even slingshot hunters as well as airgun hunters.
You will learn to range better, and adjust your shot to anticipate the trajectory of your projectile at the range that you have learned to accurately estimate.

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Re: Field Trial 101 Advice
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2021, 11:39:52 AM »
mwgm2020,

If you have an air rifle that is under 20 foot pounds and accurate (10 shots inside an inch) out to 55 yards, you may use that rifle for field target. If this is your first field target match, I would contact the match director and ask for a loaner rifle (with a parallax adjustable scope, case, pellets, pellet pouch and hold-over chart) and related equipment (seat and shooting sticks) if available. You will be paired up with an experienced shooter. Since it will most likely be in the woods, I would bring insect repellent, water, snacks and a portable seat. You will most likely start with Hunter Class since it is the easiest class to get started in. It is the most popular and can achieve a very stable shooting platform with very little discomfort or body contortions. You will still be required to shoot one lane standing (off hand) and one lane kneeling (or standing if kneeling is not an option). You can shoot prone for the rest of the lanes but most shoot sitting on a seat of some kind. Very few people are willing to carry around a prone shooting mat from lane to lane.

Don't expect to score well. Just enjoy shooting an air rifle in the woods with people. Knocking down a field target with an air rifle at an unknown distance is fun for some people and some it is not.

As with all shooting sports, wearing eye protection is required as well as signing a waiver.

Good luck and enjoy,
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Re: Field Trial 101 Advice
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2021, 11:48:57 AM »
 This came to mind If you have not done this as of yet, practice ranging with your A/O scope.
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Re: Field Trial 101 Advice
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2021, 10:52:02 PM »
That can vary on the class of FT you are planning to shoot, let us know then we can narrow it down.  ;)

Hunter probably with my Kral Puncher Mega .177. 
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Re: Field Trial 101 Advice
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2021, 11:15:28 PM »
mwgm2020,

If you have an air rifle that is under 20 foot pounds and accurate (10 shots inside an inch) out to 55 yards, you may use that rifle for field target. If this is your first field target match, I would contact the match director and ask for a loaner rifle (with a parallax adjustable scope, case, pellets, pellet pouch and hold-over chart) and related equipment (seat and shooting sticks) if available. You will be paired up with an experienced shooter. Since it will most likely be in the woods, I would bring insect repellent, water, snacks and a portable seat. You will most likely start with Hunter Class since it is the easiest class to get started in. It is the most popular and can achieve a very stable shooting platform with very little discomfort or body contortions. You will still be required to shoot one lane standing (off hand) and one lane kneeling (or standing if kneeling is not an option). You can shoot prone for the rest of the lanes but most shoot sitting on a seat of some kind. Very few people are willing to carry around a prone shooting mat from lane to lane.

Don't expect to score well. Just enjoy shooting an air rifle in the woods with people. Knocking down a field target with an air rifle at an unknown distance is fun for some people and some it is not.

As with all shooting sports, wearing eye protection is required as well as signing a waiver.

Good luck and enjoy,
Leo

Thanks, Leo.  I am downstate from Lebanon, about 2 hours, and was thinking of participating in one of CAG's events.

As for 10 inside 1" at 55 yards, I don't generally have access to that distance to shoot.  Would 10 inside 1/2" at 25 yards compare?

Can I use the gun's magazine instead of single loading?

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Re: Field Trial 101 Advice
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2021, 11:21:28 PM »
So a basic question.  Is there an advantage or preference to shooting .177 vs. .22 in FT?
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Re: Field Trial 101 Advice
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2021, 01:51:35 AM »
Thanks, Leo.  I am downstate from Lebanon, about 2 hours, and was thinking of participating in one of CAG's events.

As for 10 inside 1" at 55 yards, I don't generally have access to that distance to shoot.  Would 10 inside 1/2" at 25 yards compare?

Can I use the gun's magazine instead of single loading?
I think that kind of accuracy at 25 yards will be good enough but it will not be the same as actually shooting at 55 yards.

Yes, you can use a magazine but you need to remove it after shooting a lane (after six shots). Make sure there is no pellet in the barrel when you put your rifle back in its case when you finish shooting 6 shots.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2021, 02:01:05 AM »
So a basic question.  Is there an advantage or preference to shooting .177 vs. .22 in FT?

The majority of field target shooters (95%) use .177 caliber. It has flatter trajectory and has less surface area (for wind exposure) than a .22 caliber. It is also better for shooting at the smaller kill zones down to 3/8" diameter. You are trying to put a pellet through a hole. Smaller may be better but precision placement is the key to field target success regardless of caliber size.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2021, 12:50:08 AM »
My first ft match, I showed up with a qb 78 -  co2 rifle and a fixed power 4x scope . Had a great time and started looking around, seeing what others liked. Its not like kindergarten tho, where if one boy gets a GI joe lunchbox, you have to have one. What works for one, doesn't always work for another.
I liked bullpups for hunting, so I got serious with a daystar pulsar. It was fine rifle. Now I've an air arms s510. But I never had more fun than a gentleman named Dane, who showed up with a Walmart Winchester brand springer and iron sights.
He would whoop and holler and we would as well whether he rang a faceplate or knocked a target down.
It's not about the score, its the chess match with yourself. Imagine a place where every shot you take is that hunting shot of once in a lifetime.
You get two shots per target, but if you can only hit them on your second shot, its deflating. Or, hit the first shot and miss the 2nd- gut wrenching.
And fun. Come out and just enjoy the people, look at everyone's gear and enjoy. The kral is a ton of fun, and my suggestion is to single load it. You'll be surprised how the far groups tighten up. Make a single load tray out of an old pencil eraser, if you don't have one already.

You'll be surprised how welcoming everyone is.
And those who spend the most money don't always get the top scores. Its those who know their gun, and themselves. The great shooters focus and practice and make it look effortless- thats how you know they have put the time in. They'll look like they are just having fun, cause they are.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2021, 01:16:23 PM »
When shooting PCP's are lighter or heavier pellets favored?  I can see it going either way.
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2021, 03:12:42 PM »
Lighter pellets have flatter trajectory for given velocity/power level but are more susceptible to wind drift. Heavier pellets have loopy trajectory for given fps/fpe but less wind drift tendencies.

It depends of if you are planning to shoot in 12fpe classes or 20 fpe hunter class. Also which pellet does your FT gun prefer at ranges from 10 to 55 yards. Many variable to consider to give a specific answer. Trial and error is the best approach and ask/see what other shooters are using.

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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2021, 03:49:23 PM »
Lighter pellets have flatter trajectory for given velocity/power level but are more susceptible to wind drift. Heavier pellets have loopy trajectory for given fps/fpe but less wind drift tendencies.

It depends of if you are planning to shoot in 12fpe classes or 20 fpe hunter class. Also which pellet does your FT gun prefer at ranges from 10 to 55 yards. Many variable to consider to give a specific answer. Trial and error is the best approach and ask/see what other shooters are using.

I'm planning on shooting 20 FPE Hunter Class.  The Kral Mega I have likes the FX 10.3's and 8.4's equally well.  There is a POI shift between the two.  It also likes the H&N Barracuda 10.65's and H&N Field Target Trophy 8.54's.  So I have some options.

I had wanted to go to the June 20th DCPA event in Wappinger Falls, NY until I realized it was on Father's Day.  That makes it a no-go.  :(
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2021, 02:23:31 AM »
Hmm I thought fathers day meant us fathers got to do what we wanted to do on our day or at least that's how I have done on fathers day. Its my day to do as I please.

Go shoot FT if that's what YOU want to do.

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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2021, 01:07:43 PM »
Hmm I thought fathers day meant us fathers got to do what we wanted to do on our day or at least that's how I have done on fathers day. Its my day to do as I please.

Go shoot FT if that's what YOU want to do.

BD

It’s different when you have daughters.  They want to make a big deal out of the day for me. :). My family comes first. Besides I have plenty of me time opportunities.

Whatever works for you and your family is good.
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2021, 01:18:38 PM »
Hmm I thought fathers day meant us fathers got to do what we wanted to do on our day or at least that's how I have done on fathers day. Its my day to do as I please.

Go shoot FT if that's what YOU want to do.

BD

Itís different when you have daughters.  They want to make a big deal out of the day for me. :). My family comes first. Besides I have plenty of me time opportunities.

Whatever works for you and your family is good.

I fully understand but in my case having kids that are grown now it is different indeed. But when mine were young they were taught that it being my day I decided what the day would be about so in your case it would be that my daughters went with me to the FT match to see what dad enjoys first hand. You never know they may even decide they want to join in on the fun. Family always comes first but its called fathers day for a reason. Just like mothers day and your kids birthdays, do they not get to decide what they want for their days.

Just my .2 cents worth.

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