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HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« on: May 13, 2022, 04:48:42 PM »
After enjoying the HW50s in .177, I became a Weihrauch believer and interested in getting back into a high power .22.  Just ordered a hw80 from Krale and canít wait for it to arrive. I regret selling my D460 .22 in a way, but through time, found I preferred break-barrels. Update soon.

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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2022, 05:30:31 PM »
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2022, 05:34:21 PM »
I look forward to your full review. I would have one by now, but the 30 and 95 cover my needs too well.

Are you getting one with the new style stock?
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2022, 05:47:49 PM »
Good choice!

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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2022, 05:59:28 PM »
Not sure about the stock!

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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2022, 06:22:09 PM »
Not sure about the stock!

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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2022, 06:23:51 PM »
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2022, 08:37:14 PM »
Congratulations. I'm happy for you. That's a good caliber for that gun. Post pictures and your review when you get a chance to.
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2022, 10:01:13 PM »
Thank you! 

Any advice on hunting pellets?  Iíve been shooting Hades for a while and feel they are very soft.
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2022, 10:23:14 PM »
Thank you! 

Any advice on hunting pellets?  I’ve been shooting Hades for a while and feel they are very soft.
Whatever is most accurate at your typical hunting ranges. The Hw80 is unlikely to land an expanding pellet fast enough to open it. Therefore accuracy is the deciding factor.

Only testing will determine what pellet is most accurate in that rifle. Just remember to shoot at least fifty successive shots of a particular pellet before assessing accuracy. A hundred if the last brand was Crosman because they use a hard lead that soft lead doesn't clear easily.

 Barrels need to be properly fouled/conditioned by several of the same pellets before the true accuracy can be determined. Any review were they compare accuracy by shooting five shots of this, then five shots of that and so on, is a joke. Whether it's airguns or powder burners, barrels need to be be cleared of old lead, tin or metal jacketing and conditioned with the lead, tin or metal jacketing of the rounds to be tested. Powder burners get even more complicated because different powders and primer chemicals come into play.

Let us know what you find works best in your new rifle. I'm betting it will be H&N FTTs.
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2022, 10:30:44 PM »
Thanks for the great info. Iím definitely not expecting any expansion at these velocities.  Iíll be looking to take rabbits, squirrels, crow sized birds around 50+ yards. And it turns out I just so happen to have a few cans of H&N FTTs laying about.
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2022, 10:36:22 PM »
Thanks for the great info. Iím definitely not expecting any expansion at these velocities.  Iíll be looking to take rabbits, squirrels, crow sized birds around 50+ yards. And it turns out I just so happen to have a few cans of H&N FTTs laying about.
That'll be no problem for that gun and pellet
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2022, 10:41:40 PM »
Thanks for the great info. Iím definitely not expecting any expansion at these velocities.  Iíll be looking to take rabbits, squirrels, crow sized birds around 50+ yards. And it turns out I just so happen to have a few cans of H&N FTTs laying about.
That'll be no problem for that gun and pellet

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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2022, 03:32:49 AM »
LOL!!! ;)
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2022, 06:11:14 PM »
Alright! 

Have about 50 shots through the 80. Very impressed by how smooth cocking and shooting are. Very soft recoil impulse and low report. Was expecting violence. My hw50s has a sharper recoil impulse and is just as easy to shoulder and point.  The weight is not an issue and itís very balanced. Feels light. My d36 was very barrel heavy and this rifle is light to shoulder and feels perfectly balanced.

I only have hades pellets on hand and they do not fit snugly. They do scoot out of the barrel like a bat out of *(&^ when discharged. The impact noise at 75 yards seems almost instantaneous. This sucker is a lightning rod! 

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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2022, 06:29:13 PM »
Sounds like you scored a great one. I'm happy for you.
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2022, 07:00:26 PM »
Sounds like you scored a great one. I'm happy for you.

Appreciated!  Only potential issue I see may or may not even be one. Looks like cocking arm is a little crooked in the stock until the barrel is completely opened. At that point itís centered.
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2022, 07:48:57 PM »
If it's bent vertically, that's fine. They come like that sometimes. It's actually a Hw95 cocking arm but as long as it clears the stock there's no problem. Now the straight Hw80 cocking arm will cause barrel droop on a Hw95. They've been mixing them up lately. Luckily there's no detriment in your combination. If it's side to side post a picture for me.
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2022, 07:59:30 PM »
See the difference. 80 cocking arm is straight. The 95 has a bow in it. The 95 cocking arm will work on the 80. The straight 80 cocking arm often binds on the 95 and causes barrel droop on newer guns.

Hw80K barrel and CA on the left.
Hw95 barrel and CA on the right
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R9 SE (Blue Laminate stock) - 0.020- Vortek PG4, Hawke Airmax 3-9x40 AO
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Re: HW80 - .22 - pulled the trigger
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2022, 08:30:18 PM »
Tremendous. Ty!
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