YogiThanks for the heads up- I missed the "quiet for neighbors" requirement. My 350 is very very loud in my hallway-not sure how that would translate to outdoors-but neighbors canbe pretty touchy-so.It is 8.3 lbs-not a pig-but not light- no question 48"-it is LONG- I still bump my hallway doorframe while walking to the "front" of my range-Pretty sure it does not need 19.5" to gety its velocity-I think Duke-Illimakko posted some numbers on required length a while back-and it was not much-maybe 16 or so inches for amagnum type rifle-but then cocking a shorter barrel-probably why it is 19.5"DanD- nice pictures-I am struck by how classic pretty the Diana 350 is-even with s synthetic stock-looks like a rifle should lookOP description1)Light2)not hold sensitive3)not too long4)not too noisy5)Enough velocity for 50 yard shots6) good inherent accuracy Sounds like one of those rifles that requires a compressor-or a hand pump- able bodied person should be ashamed to use or admit to using one of those-(like admitting to using Tin pellets)Yes I am mostly kidding -but they offend me a little.Just kiddingCharlie PS What was the decision? Pricy name brand rifles-German Brit Turkish some Spanish ones re-sell pretty well-so not like a mistake is too big a deal- That pumper Hector mentionedSeneca-only $195?? pretty gun-real wood!
Quote from: phoebeisis on May 12, 2022, 04:09:19 PMYogiThanks for the heads up- I missed the "quiet for neighbors" requirement. My 350 is very very loud in my hallway-not sure how that would translate to outdoors-but neighbors canbe pretty touchy-so.It is 8.3 lbs-not a pig-but not light- no question 48"-it is LONG- I still bump my hallway doorframe while walking to the "front" of my range-Pretty sure it does not need 19.5" to gety its velocity-I think Duke-Illimakko posted some numbers on required length a while back-and it was not much-maybe 16 or so inches for amagnum type rifle-but then cocking a shorter barrel-probably why it is 19.5"DanD- nice pictures-I am struck by how classic pretty the Diana 350 is-even with s synthetic stock-looks like a rifle should lookOP description1)Light2)not hold sensitive3)not too long4)not too noisy5)Enough velocity for 50 yard shots6) good inherent accuracy Sounds like one of those rifles that requires a compressor-or a hand pump- able bodied person should be ashamed to use or admit to using one of those-(like admitting to using Tin pellets)Yes I am mostly kidding -but they offend me a little.Just kiddingCharlie PS What was the decision? Pricy name brand rifles-German Brit Turkish some Spanish ones re-sell pretty well-so not like a mistake is too big a deal- That pumper Hector mentionedSeneca-only $195?? pretty gun-real wood!I actually started another thread about it. I think I've settled on an HW 50 in .177. Someday I might save up enough for a Diana 48 with a sling and a scope with sufficient power and recoil resistance to attempt 50+ yard shots. I did not realize until I started practicing 40+ yard shots in the back pasture just how important magnification and clarity are!If only they made rimfire bullets that didn't fly so darned far when you aim them upward!
Quote from: HOSPassassin on May 14, 2022, 10:47:25 PMQuote from: phoebeisis on May 12, 2022, 04:09:19 PMYogiThanks for the heads up- I missed the "quiet for neighbors" requirement. My 350 is very very loud in my hallway-not sure how that would translate to outdoors-but neighbors canbe pretty touchy-so.It is 8.3 lbs-not a pig-but not light- no question 48"-it is LONG- I still bump my hallway doorframe while walking to the "front" of my range-Pretty sure it does not need 19.5" to gety its velocity-I think Duke-Illimakko posted some numbers on required length a while back-and it was not much-maybe 16 or so inches for amagnum type rifle-but then cocking a shorter barrel-probably why it is 19.5"DanD- nice pictures-I am struck by how classic pretty the Diana 350 is-even with s synthetic stock-looks like a rifle should lookOP description1)Light2)not hold sensitive3)not too long4)not too noisy5)Enough velocity for 50 yard shots6) good inherent accuracy Sounds like one of those rifles that requires a compressor-or a hand pump- able bodied person should be ashamed to use or admit to using one of those-(like admitting to using Tin pellets)Yes I am mostly kidding -but they offend me a little.Just kiddingCharlie PS What was the decision? Pricy name brand rifles-German Brit Turkish some Spanish ones re-sell pretty well-so not like a mistake is too big a deal- That pumper Hector mentionedSeneca-only $195?? pretty gun-real wood!I actually started another thread about it. I think I've settled on an HW 50 in .177. Someday I might save up enough for a Diana 48 with a sling and a scope with sufficient power and recoil resistance to attempt 50+ yard shots. I did not realize until I started practicing 40+ yard shots in the back pasture just how important magnification and clarity are!If only they made rimfire bullets that didn't fly so darned far when you aim them upward! Don't know how far they fly, but they do make subsonic .22LR bullets that only go about 800fps. -Y
the least amount of movement and noise in its mechanical usage is what you want, a side lever 48 type has a ratcheting noise on the bear trap safety that clicks.
Quote from: Mark 611 on May 14, 2022, 05:18:32 PM the least amount of movement and noise in its mechanical usage is what you want, a side lever 48 type has a ratcheting noise on the bear trap safety that clicks.That is a non-issue with the sidelever Dianas. All you need to do is press the ratchet release tab down before cocking: voilá, no ratcheting noise.The sidelever platform offers much better stealth than the breakbarrel platform. You can cock a D48 keeping your hands at waist level all the time, the cocking motion is horizontal. Nothing spooks game animals more than vertical movement, as with cocking a breakbarrel. Breakbarrels are easier and quicker to reload, but stealthier they are not. The D48/52 was designed as a hunting weapon in the mid-80's, and released in early 1987. There is no other springer with as many user testimonies like: "this gun has brought home countless animals over decades of hard use, being an exceptionally accurate springer with plenty of power, a rare combo. A true hunting tool."None of the above would have happened if you'd take as gospel what the breakbarrel HW guys tell you.
Humm a bare D52 weighs 8.8 pounds (over 10 pounds with scope and mounts) doesn't seem like it was designed for hunting unless sitting in a blind propped up on a rest.
Quote from: nced on May 18, 2022, 12:33:00 PMHumm a bare D52 weighs 8.8 pounds (over 10 pounds with scope and mounts) doesn't seem like it was designed for hunting unless sitting in a blind propped up on a rest.When do you guys realize that the fact that you can't cope with a heavier springer in the woods doesn't mean ANYTHING in terms of what other people can, or what gun designers had in mind?There are guys, even on this forum, who use heavily scoped D54's for stalking game in mountainous terrain. That's not 10 pounds, that's more like 13 lbs.I have ZERO issues going over hill and valley in dense woodland with my 4.2 kilo German springers. NONE. Guns that are compact, like the D48/52, and the LGV, feel nowhere near as heavy as the stats tell you. Being short and balanced, without any barrel heaviness, they are easy to maneuver and quick to point.