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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => European/Asian Air Gun Gates => German AirGun Gate => Topic started by: Luthier Vandros on May 13, 2022, 04:48:42 PM
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After enjoying the HW50s in .177, I became a Weihrauch believer and interested in getting back into a high power .22. Just ordered a hw80 from Krale and can’t wait for it to arrive. I regret selling my D460 .22 in a way, but through time, found I preferred break-barrels. Update soon.
Cheers all
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Good choice Frank! ;)
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I look forward to your full review. I would have one by now, but the 30 and 95 cover my needs too well.
Are you getting one with the new style stock?
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Good choice!
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Not sure about the stock!
Yogi/Mark: you cats and your enabling posts!
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Not sure about the stock!
Yogi/Mark: you cats and your enabling posts!
Yes two of several repeat offenders...I am very glad I listed to them.
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:P
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Congratulations. I'm happy for you. That's a good caliber for that gun. Post pictures and your review when you get a chance to.
Good luck with it
Ron
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Thank you!
Any advice on hunting pellets? I’ve been shooting Hades for a while and feel they are very soft.
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Thank you!
Any advice on hunting pellets? I’ve been shooting Hades for a while and feel they are very soft.
Whatever is most accurate at your typical hunting ranges. The Hw80 is unlikely to land an expanding pellet fast enough to open it. Therefore accuracy is the deciding factor.
Only testing will determine what pellet is most accurate in that rifle. Just remember to shoot at least fifty successive shots of a particular pellet before assessing accuracy. A hundred if the last brand was Crosman because they use a hard lead that soft lead doesn't clear easily.
Barrels need to be properly fouled/conditioned by several of the same pellets before the true accuracy can be determined. Any review were they compare accuracy by shooting five shots of this, then five shots of that and so on, is a joke. Whether it's airguns or powder burners, barrels need to be be cleared of old lead, tin or metal jacketing and conditioned with the lead, tin or metal jacketing of the rounds to be tested. Powder burners get even more complicated because different powders and primer chemicals come into play.
Let us know what you find works best in your new rifle. I'm betting it will be H&N FTTs.
Be well
Ron
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Thanks for the great info. I’m definitely not expecting any expansion at these velocities. I’ll be looking to take rabbits, squirrels, crow sized birds around 50+ yards. And it turns out I just so happen to have a few cans of H&N FTTs laying about.
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Thanks for the great info. I’m definitely not expecting any expansion at these velocities. I’ll be looking to take rabbits, squirrels, crow sized birds around 50+ yards. And it turns out I just so happen to have a few cans of H&N FTTs laying about.
That'll be no problem for that gun and pellet
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Thanks for the great info. I’m definitely not expecting any expansion at these velocities. I’ll be looking to take rabbits, squirrels, crow sized birds around 50+ yards. And it turns out I just so happen to have a few cans of H&N FTTs laying about.
That'll be no problem for that gun and pellet
Noice. Have an amazing weekend with ya.
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LOL!!! ;)
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Alright!
Have about 50 shots through the 80. Very impressed by how smooth cocking and shooting are. Very soft recoil impulse and low report. Was expecting violence. My hw50s has a sharper recoil impulse and is just as easy to shoulder and point. The weight is not an issue and it’s very balanced. Feels light. My d36 was very barrel heavy and this rifle is light to shoulder and feels perfectly balanced.
I only have hades pellets on hand and they do not fit snugly. They do scoot out of the barrel like a bat out of *(&^ when discharged. The impact noise at 75 yards seems almost instantaneous. This sucker is a lightning rod!
Off to clean her up and set up the glass.
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Sounds like you scored a great one. I'm happy for you.
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Sounds like you scored a great one. I'm happy for you.
Appreciated! Only potential issue I see may or may not even be one. Looks like cocking arm is a little crooked in the stock until the barrel is completely opened. At that point it’s centered.
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If it's bent vertically, that's fine. They come like that sometimes. It's actually a Hw95 cocking arm but as long as it clears the stock there's no problem. Now the straight Hw80 cocking arm will cause barrel droop on a Hw95. They've been mixing them up lately. Luckily there's no detriment in your combination. If it's side to side post a picture for me.
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See the difference. 80 cocking arm is straight. The 95 has a bow in it. The 95 cocking arm will work on the 80. The straight 80 cocking arm often binds on the 95 and causes barrel droop on newer guns.
Hw80K barrel and CA on the left.
Hw95 barrel and CA on the right
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Tremendous. Ty!
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Ok I’m smitten. On paper this makes no sense, but it seems (feels) to be making more power than my 460 was. Super smooth shooter and not hold sensitive for me.
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Photos?
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Will take some 8)
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A few more observations before I close out the night. I’m doing my best to avoid hyperbole, but the honeymoon is strong with this one.
The barrel lockup feels like a gated manual trans shifter. Snick-snick. Excellent tactile feel.
She’s fat in the hand compared to the HW50s. Just a different feel and purpose here. Not a deal killer, but I’d love some fore end checking here. Oddly enough the trigger feels setback perfectly for my taste. The 50s feels a bit forward.
About 150 shots in and she’s just a joy to load and shoot. The .22 caliber pellets feel comically large after having been limited to handling .177 for about 4 months. Man this rifle sends them down range with power and precision. Really impressed with the velocity.
Have some HN FTT with head size @ 5.55mm inbound. The hades I’m running now slip right in with little resistance, but this doesn’t appear to be an issue. Will be interesting to see how a better fitting pellet will perform.
The hades is a destructive little round up close. I have a bit of 3/4” birch ply out back that resists pass-through with the 50s in .177. The 80 not only passed through, but went well into the next piece after blowing a 3” chunk from the rear of the primary board. I can see this rifle handling coyote-sized vermin with good shot placement.
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Do you have any chrono numbers yet? Thanks
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Do you have any chrono numbers yet? Thanks
Not yet. It “feels” like it’s sitting between 700-800fps based upon what I’m used to hearing impact-wise at distance. I’ve got about 175 shots in and it’s just starting to settle on target. Still smoking a bit but nothing crazy.
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glad you like it! :D
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glad you like it! :D
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It could be love!
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Let me add this:
1. I don’t believe there’s any barrel droop on this 80.
2. I have a sub $90 UTG Hunter on my 50s and it has better clarity than the $200 Vortex Diamondback that’s living on the 80. The latter is better built, but the distortion around the center field of view is disappointing.
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Vortex might replace that scope for you if you contact them- their customer service is excellent in my experience.
I have a Crossfire II, which I believe is a step below the Diamondback, and the glass is excellent.
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Great stuff so far... congrats!
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Thanks gang!
I’ve emailed vortex cs. Will see what they can do. Updates soon.
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Quick question on pellet fit: how tight is too tight?
The JSB Diablos were fairly loose. The HN FTT (5.55mm) are pretty tight fitting, needing some pressure to fully seat. What’s the ideal fit? Something in between? I believe the HN range offers 5.56mm head size. I have to check that to confirm.
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Quick question on pellet fit: how tight is too tight?
The JSB Diablos were fairly loose. The HN FTT (5.55mm) are pretty tight fitting, needing some pressure to fully seat. What’s the ideal fit? Something in between? I believe the HN range offers 5.56mm head size. I have to check that to confirm.
They make 5.53, 5.54, and 5.55. Drop by your local Walmart and grab a pack of .22 Crosman Premier Hollow Point. The latest batch is shooting pretty well in my chopped HW80 barrel.
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Nice. How are they as a hunting round? Mainly interested in penetration.
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Nice. How are they as a hunting round? Mainly interested in penetration.
I think they'd be fine if they're accurate. What are you hunting?
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I was just reading that they are made of a harder lead mixture, so the should do fine. I’m mainly pesting critters racoon size.
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Try some 5.53mm FTT's and the Crosman Pointed Hunting Pellets, shoot very accurate from my .22cal HW barrels! ;)
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Will try som 5.53’s. The 5.55’s shot great btw.
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Just to chime in... my Weihrauch / Beeman's prefer the 5.53
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Do you have any chrono numbers yet? Thanks
Not yet. It “feels” like it’s sitting between 700-800fps based upon what I’m used to hearing impact-wise at distance. I’ve got about 175 shots in and it’s just starting to settle on target. Still smoking a bit but nothing crazy.
My HW95L .22 is shooting the H&N FTT 14.66 5.53 mm at 715/720 FPS and I use a Turkey slate call striker to seat the pellets to the same depth while trying groups at 25 yards.
Good luck with your new rifle.
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Ty for the info, DS.
Frustrated. Scope not holding zero after about 50 shouts. No loose stock screws. Using a BKL 1-piece mount. Not loose either.
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What scope? Maybe a Diana ZR-1 scope mount is in order.
HW 80 is not known to be a scope killer.
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What scope? When I terribly over sprung my R1 (same gun) it was so violent my Airmax would occasionally shift zero. While I was getting it warranteed I put a Sportsmatch Dampa mount and a Hawke 3-9x40 Vantage on it. I used it that way for months without problems. I'm sure the over sprung R1 would have destroyed the Vantage without the Dampa mount.
I eventually cut the spring to match factory power levels and put an Airmax on solid Sportsmatch T04C rings with no problems.
My suggestion is to either get a Dampa mount or an Airmax. The Hw80 is still a magnum springer and will eat any scope not built for one. The Airmax is the only scope I trust on a big springer. The one that I had warranteed was probably my fault from over springing the gun. It was very violent. Live and learn.
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Hey gang. It’s a vortex sidewinder sitting on a bkl one piece droop comp mount. Crazy thing is this ar has less felt recoil than my old d36. Oh well.
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Update: vortex customer service sent a return label and will fix free of charge no questions asked. Really surprised and pleased.
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Update: vortex customer service sent a return label and will fix free of charge no questions asked. Really surprised and pleased.
Great news. That's how they treated me 5 years ago. I'm glad they are still providing excellent service.
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Let's hope the replacement scope does better. You may wind up with a revolving door of broken scopes. I'm not wishing it on you. It's what happened to me with UTG springer rated scopes.
They'd last a little while and then the zero would start to wander. As the accuracy would open up I'd be looking at myself, the pellets and many aspects of the rifle itself for the cause. I spent countless hours and dollars chasing problems caused by bad scopes. I even sent my first real air rifle back to AoA the first year I had it for warranty because I couldn't believe that all these scopes were bad.
AoA shot it several times over a couple weeks and couldn't find anything wrong with it. After they finally convinced me there was nothing wrong with the gun they suggested that I buy a Nikon EFR. It was $200 and that was A LOT of money for a freshly divorced father of two. Because they paid the freight to return a perfectly good gun and I was wrong, I bit the bullet and bought it. Once I installed and zeroed the Nikon I was astonished by the reliable accuracy. I've been hooked on quality springers since and part of that is accepting they need special scopes and or mounts. Even spring guns that feel tame transmit more shock than the shooter can detect.
UTG was always good about replacing scopes back then, but it got frustrating sending scopes back and forth. Getting off that ride was expensive but worth every dime. I sincerely wish you have better luck with the next Vortex scope. Nobody needs the broken scope headaches.
Ron
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Ron, sorry to hear about your plight. Hits home, brother. Hope all is right in your world now.
After all this I may end up keeping this one on iron sights. Kinda like it. If the next scope goes to *(&^ I’ll take it as a sign. Don’t feel like spending any more money!
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Ron, sorry to hear about your plight. Hits home, brother. Hope all is right in your world now.
After all this I may end up keeping this one on iron sights. Kinda like it. If the next scope goes to *(&^ I’ll take it as a sign. Don’t feel like spending any more money!
Actually everything is good now. I realized that regular scopes weren't gonna cut it. The Airmax line has done me well, outside of my way over sprung cz
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Ron, sorry to hear about your plight. Hits home, brother. Hope all is right in your world now.
After all this I may end up keeping this one on iron sights. Kinda like it. If the next scope goes to *(&^ I’ll take it as a sign. Don’t feel like spending any more money!
Actually everything is good now. I realized that regular scopes weren't gonna cut it. The Airmax line has done me well, outside of my way over sprung cz
Cool cool.
I had one of the air max scoped and couldn’t get on with the reticle in my back yard. Too much shade and dark, dense vegetation. Made the reticle a challenge for my eyes to see.
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Ron, sorry to hear about your plight. Hits home, brother. Hope all is right in your world now.
After all this I may end up keeping this one on iron sights. Kinda like it. If the next scope goes to *(&^ I’ll take it as a sign. Don’t feel like spending any more money!
Actually everything is good now. I realized that regular scopes weren't gonna cut it. The Airmax line has done me well, outside of my way over sprung cz
Cool cool.
I had one of the air max scoped and couldn’t get on with the reticle in my back yard. Too much shade and dark, dense vegetation. Made the reticle a challenge for my eyes to see.
Yeah I can definitely see that. Those reticles are so fine they can get lost in dark busy backgrounds. My Hw50 which is my dedicated woods hunting gun wears a straight 4x Vantage and I appreciate the the thicker wire reticle for that. Finding a springer rated scope that fits all our criteria isn't that easy. There's really not a lot to choose from.
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Hey, that vantage looks great. I’m almost always on 4x mag, so that would really suit my needs. Is that one safe for a magnum?
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IMO this would be an excellent scope for your setup & it has IR for your dark backyard shooting.
https://us.hawkeoptics.com/airmax-30-sf-compact-3-12x40-amx-ir.html (https://us.hawkeoptics.com/airmax-30-sf-compact-3-12x40-amx-ir.html)
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Good lookin’ out!
I’m really enjoying the irons on these “shoot-n-c” targets. Ironically (gnuk gnuk gnuk), in darker shade the front sight goes bye-bye, too. Compromise is the order of the day.
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Hey, that vantage looks great. I’m almost always on 4x mag, so that would really suit my needs. Is that one safe for a magnum?
Not without a Dampa mount.
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Also consider the Optisan/MTC line of scopes.
Unfortunately their 3-9 Cobra scope is available from Krale.
The others AoA or Treiner have. Great glass, great reticle.
They have all held up perfectly on my 12-18 fpe guns for over 3-4 years.
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After enjoying the HW50s in .177, I became a Weihrauch believer and interested in getting back into a high power .22. Just ordered a hw80 from Krale and can’t wait for it to arrive. I regret selling my D460 .22 in a way, but through time, found I preferred break-barrels. Update soon.
Cheers all
If you don't mind me asking, how much was shipping and were there any other fees? I'm looking at getting the HW80SL in .177.
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After enjoying the HW50s in .177, I became a Weihrauch believer and interested in getting back into a high power .22. Just ordered a hw80 from Krale and can’t wait for it to arrive. I regret selling my D460 .22 in a way, but through time, found I preferred break-barrels. Update soon.
Cheers all
If you don't mind me asking, how much was shipping and were there any other fees? I'm looking at getting the HW80SL in .177.
No fees other than shipping, which was about $50 to California. Got here in 2 biz days which is crazy.
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UTG was always good about replacing scopes back then, but it got frustrating sending scopes back and forth. Getting off that ride was expensive but worth every dime. I sincerely wish you have better luck with the next Vortex scope. Nobody needs the broken scope headaches.
Ron
My first experience with UTG and a broken scope was a very good one. Scope replaced free of charge, no questions asked and no shipping. Not so much the last time around. The UTG regional sales rep I spoke with the first time around had left the company for greener pastures. Apparently UTG has a reputation for very high staff turnover as workers there feel very pressured to produce, and for relatively little pay compared to the industry standards. I discovered this tidbit of information while trying to research the sales rep I was dealing with and the UTG company in general. The last sales guy I dealt with was a real jerk. Nickel and dimed me every step of the way, initially suggesting that I accept a replacement scope that cost less than half of the one I was returning under warranty. At one point he also let slip that the True Strength platform that they claim makes their scopes airgun worthy only applies to the True Hunter scope.........I had one of those break on an air rifle too! Further, he claimed that no scope, whatever the brand, would last on a springer.
Have to agree with Bayman on this one. Good scopes, that will stand up to the beating they take on airguns, are relatively expensive, but worth the lack of headaches if they don't break or, if they do break, the lack of hassle if they need to be returned.
Of course, you could buy 6 cheap scopes off Amazon for the price of any of the AIrmax Compact scopes and throw as you go ( I say the Compact range because the reticles on Hawke scopes are very fine and difficult to see in low light or on a dark background unless you have an IR). I can't speak for Vortex.
Regardless, for anyone considering a UTG scope be for-warned. You should plan on returning it at least once, and maybe receiving the used car salesman treatment when you do. Personally I would have happily paid the difference between the Hawke scope of my choice, rather than pay shipping to return the broken scope to UTG and endure the humiliating, one month long+ "negotiation" with the UTG rep, simply to replace a scope that UTG admitted was faulty, and was still under their "lifetime warranty".
Then again, your experience may be different.
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UTG was always good about replacing scopes back then, but it got frustrating sending scopes back and forth. Getting off that ride was expensive but worth every dime. I sincerely wish you have better luck with the next Vortex scope. Nobody needs the broken scope headaches.
Ron
My first experience with UTG and a broken scope was a very good one. Scope replaced free of charge, no questions asked and no shipping. Not so much the last time around. The UTG regional sales rep I spoke with the first time around had left the company for greener pastures. Apparently UTG has a reputation for very high staff turnover as workers there feel very pressured to produce, and for relatively little pay compared to the industry standards. I discovered this tidbit of information while trying to research the sales rep I was dealing with and the UTG company in general. The last sales guy I dealt with was a real jerk. Nickel and dimed me every step of the way, initially suggesting that I accept a replacement scope that cost less than half of the one I was returning under warranty. At one point he also let slip that the True Strength platform that they claim makes their scopes airgun worthy only applies to the True Hunter scope.........I had one of those break on an air rifle too! Further, he claimed that no scope, whatever the brand, would last on a springer.
Have to agree with Bayman on this one. Good scopes, that will stand up to the beating they take on airguns, are relatively expensive, but worth the lack of headaches if they don't break or, if they do break, the lack of hassle if they need to be returned.
Of course, you could buy 6 cheap scopes off Amazon for the price of any of the AIrmax Compact scopes and throw as you go ( I say the Compact range because the reticles on Hawke scopes are very fine and difficult to see in low light or on a dark background unless you have an IR). I can't speak for Vortex.
Regardless, for anyone considering a UTG scope be for-warned. You should plan on returning it at least once, and maybe receiving the used car salesman treatment when you do. Personally I would have happily paid the difference between the Hawke scope of my choice, rather than pay shipping to return the broken scope to UTG and endure the humiliating, one month long+ "negotiation" with the UTG rep, simply to replace a scope that UTG admitted was faulty, and was still under their "lifetime warranty".
Then again, your experience may be different.
Thanks for updating everyone about your recent experience with UTG. I heard that they've become more difficult to deal with but never experienced it myself. I could only say what I experienced 6 or 7 years ago. Your information is more current and invaluable.
Be well
Ron
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Not to refute your claim, Chris, about your experience with UTG… And I don’t endorse UTG over Hawke, I just haven’t owned a Hawke scope, yet… but, all of my scopes except one are UTG. I’m not sure who the rep was, or if they’re even there any longer, that said the True Hunter was a True Strength scope, but the True Hunter (1” tube) scope is definitely not part of the True Strength line of scopes. All of my UTG True Strength scopes are 30mm tube. I’ve only had a problem with one of them and that was because it was on my Parrus .22 with an extremely high elevation adjustment. That mixed with the hard recoil, it couldn’t hold zero. I attempted to put in a claim, but the rep worked with me getting it back to mechanical zero and giving it another try. I put that scope on my Diana AMO3 Stealth .22 and it’s been fine ever since, that was more than a year ago. The original scope from my AMO3 went onto my RWS 3400, again no problem. The main problem very well may be personnel and information over at UTG. I don’t know, I like my UTG scopes very much, just need to be sure the one you pick really is a True Strength scope, 30mm tube and preferably etched glass reticle. Of those, I haven’t had a problem.
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You'll see the TS(True Strength) logo on all of the scopes below.
This one was the first to break, and the one that was replaced without any argument and with virtually no effort on my part.
https://www.leapers.com/index.php?act=prod_detail&midx=2424&allids=2424&itemno=SCP-U394AOIED (https://www.leapers.com/index.php?act=prod_detail&midx=2424&allids=2424&itemno=SCP-U394AOIED)
This one is no longer made with the glass reticle. The one I owned, and sent back, had a 30mm tube, and and glass reticle that spun 90 degrees in a shower of fine, black powder.
https://www.leapers.com/index.php?act=prod_detail&midx=2424&allids=2424&itemno=SCP3-U312AOIEW (https://www.leapers.com/index.php?act=prod_detail&midx=2424&allids=2424&itemno=SCP3-U312AOIEW)
I kid you not, this was the initial recommended replacement for the scope above.
https://www.leapers.com/index.php?act=prod_detail&midx=2424&allids=2424&itemno=SCP-3940EW (https://www.leapers.com/index.php?act=prod_detail&midx=2424&allids=2424&itemno=SCP-3940EW)
As I mentioned earlier YMMV.
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This thread turned faster than Keen’s reticle!
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This thread turned faster than Keen’s reticle!
ROFL Out Loud! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Too soon!
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Apologies LVD.
If I knew anything about HW80s I'd say something sensible and profound. As it is, I just hope that you love that thing and that it loves you back.
Cheers.
......and buy a decent scope.
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All good! So far so good with this little cannon.
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This thread turned faster than Keen’s reticle!
ROFL Out Loud! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Haaaahaaaaaa! ;D
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My2ct, I have no issues with Leeper's scopes! The 3x9x32mm TF2 is a pretty decent scope for the money! I own several of them on HW80's or R1's all the way down to my HW50's and other rifles, and they work well for me! and they come with rings that work well with all my HW rifles and give a good cheek weld, especially on the 80/R1 or any of the other HW plat forms ;D
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For what little it's worth at this point, I've traded emails with Vortex and been told by a CS rep named Clay that
all their scopes are tested and springer rated right along with having a no questions asked warranty, which you
already found out. Maybe a case of the adage Built on a Monday or Built on a Friday??
Also for the little it's worth, no scope company (or guns for that matter) is immune from building bad scopes at times.
You could get one that never fails to one that fails inside a tin of pellets...lol.
If in doubt, buy a Dampa Mount...well, buy one if you can find one anyway since I did check a few places in the US
and except for Fleabay, they're currently out of stock, although both Krale or Mundilar show to have them.
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For what little it's worth at this point, I've traded emails with Vortex and been told by a CS rep named Clay that
all their scopes are tested and springer rated right along with having a no questions asked warranty, which you
already found out. Maybe a case of the adage Built on a Monday or Built on a Friday??
Also for the little it's worth, no scope company (or guns for that matter) is immune from building bad scopes at times.
You could get one that never fails to one that fails inside a tin of pellets...lol.
If in doubt, buy a Dampa Mount...well, buy one if you can find one anyway since I did check a few places in the US
and except for Fleabay, they're currently out of stock, although both Krale or Mundilar show to have them.
But after you send them more than one broken scope, they start asking questions. If you say it was on a springer, they back down from their warranty.
After my second UTG accushot 16x44 failed, they would only give a true hunter and a bug buster to replace it. Those are the only ones that can be used on a springer. And they told me that the first scope should not have been replaced because it was on a springer.
The HW 80 will likely be my next purchase, but I am still building credits with my wife. The new dining room table that we didn’t need gets me a lot closer to a new rifle.
Luthier, have you chrony numbers yet?
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So True Strength really means.....................
Oh c r a p!
Sorry LVD :D
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Keen and Struckat, my fault for omitting, but Vortex was the scope company I was trading emails with.
I was because I wanted to know which of their scopes lines were springer rated and what I typed above
is what Clay, the CS rep replied.
UTG I honestly have no clue about since I've never owned one to even have problems with.
Apologies for any confusion.
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I’m pulling my toddlers to the park in a wagon so pardon the response to an earlier message. I don’t have any empirical data on with my gun and shooting it but it’s fast as *(&^. Is it instantaneous impact noise along with the report. Just. A split second behind at 15 yards really. Feels faster than the HW50s in 177!
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Speech to text. Not so good. :P
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Quick update: the FTT’s in 5.53mm are perfect! Gun is still dieseling a bit with a little brown smoke left in barrel after each shot. No loud report. Just smooth recoil with mild report.
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If you really want a top tier scope for around $300 or less when on sale, I would look at SWFA Super Sniper! a 10x or 12x is all you need for a spring gun! These scopes for the money cannot be beat!!!!! ;D ;)
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^^^^^X2^^^^^
Got a SWFA 10X & 16X.
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Good lookin out!
Man, I gotta say - this is a joy to shoot even with the irons. What a powerhouse. What a manageable beast. So much more enjoyable than my 460 was in the same caliber, though that was also a sweet gun. If anyone is looking for a formidable AG to take down the big furries, this is it. Took down a large possum last night with a shot between the peepers. This is the first AG I’ve used that reached the noodles with one shot with a pass through using the FTT’s I just received. Even the 50s (albeit in .177) would fail to do it with one shot with the same placement.
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This why I say go with a .22cal in these bigger power plants! They just work! ;)
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Updates:
1. HW80 is at Scott’s for some McLovin’
2. Vortex tech called re the sidewinder issues I was having. Revealed how much of a newb I am! Scope is fine, but elevation was 2 clicks away from being bottomed out. I was basically looking through the lower edge of the objective lens as a result. Turns out the droop compensated mount is an issue on this particular rifle. No droop!
3. The Tech Sights went into my 1322. What a sight picture! I epoxied the front sight to the barrel just before the LDC. Love this rig for backyard work. Might see how I get on with the vortex before I get another set for the HW80.
Cheers all
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Outstanding, Frank! Best wishes!!!
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Outstanding, Frank! Best wishes!!!
Ty brother!
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Can’t wait for an update after the beast has been “Motorheaded.”
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You know it! He did an amazing job on my former d36.
Here’s the tech sights. Notice the windage adjustment. The crossmans are notorious for their misaligned barrel band pivot holes.
Great little pester! Around 560fps with FTTs. Super quiet.
(https://i.imgur.com/JTGgNRp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NM5SM9Y.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LyC4ta9.jpg)