Quote from: Kragman1 on October 03, 2021, 07:14:08 PMHa! I wondered about that too after reading about one other 770, and assumed that I was being paranoid.But three now, well that feels different.Really need to get a reading on mine darn it!Seriously, it doesn't matter much to me.I would LIKE it to be a velocity performer, because I didn't buy it to be a plinker.If its not, well, whatever. It still hits hard, and accuracy seems fine so its a 30 yard large pest gun either way. But if they just pencil whip that form (or just run copies of the thing) I'd be a little disappointed. Better for everyone if they didn't lie about such a needless thing.I just think Hatsan is a bit “optimistic” about their figures. IMO Hatsan overclaims for their performance figures but not as much as Crosman or Gamo. Real world wise my Hatsans seem to run about 100 to 150 FPS slower than the factory claims. That is plenty good enough for me and still head a shoulders above a Ruger Air Magnum or a Crosman NP2 powered gun. I read a lot about how many people are disappointed with their magnum springers when they can’t hit the target or achieve the performance numbers on the box and how fatiguing they are to shoot. I LOVE my magnum Hatsans! They are accurate and extremely powerful. I don’t have any trouble shooting these guns fifty or more time in a session. Of course I am 6’6” tall, 290 lbs, and I have arms like a gorilla.
Ha! I wondered about that too after reading about one other 770, and assumed that I was being paranoid.But three now, well that feels different.Really need to get a reading on mine darn it!Seriously, it doesn't matter much to me.I would LIKE it to be a velocity performer, because I didn't buy it to be a plinker.If its not, well, whatever. It still hits hard, and accuracy seems fine so its a 30 yard large pest gun either way. But if they just pencil whip that form (or just run copies of the thing) I'd be a little disappointed. Better for everyone if they didn't lie about such a needless thing.
Are you satisfied with how Hatsan locates the barrel breech block in the forks? It’s probably based on however Webley did it.Have you had a D34 or XS25 to compare the Hatsan to?That’s my gripe with crosman Springers. Bad design.
Quote from: Horatio on October 03, 2021, 11:30:48 PMAre you satisfied with how Hatsan locates the barrel breech block in the forks? It’s probably based on however Webley did it.Have you had a D34 or XS25 to compare the Hatsan to?That’s my gripe with crosman Springers. Bad design.I've had no problems with Hatsan's break barrel lock up design. It's pretty good when compared to Crosman's design, in my opinion. I honestly went from Crosman to Hatsan, then Ruger (Air Magnum &BlackHawk ) to Diana and finally to Weihrauch with one Gamo thrown in. They can all achieve better accuracy than I'm capable of shooting, but Crosman NP & XL models seem more temperamental than the rest. The Diana and clones use a ball detent instead of a chisel. I think Crosman and maybe Gamo are the only one's to use synthetic/plastic pivot washers.
I know it's not a .25, but I did chrony my (Spring) 125 Sniper in .22. I'm sure most of the .25 caliber guns are putting out similar, if not more ft lbs. Most Hatsan's make a bit more power with heavier lead, though fps will be lower. Using CPHP 14.3's:high 944- 28.3fpeLow 930- 27.5fpeThe tight ones were faster, usually 938-944 fps. This tin varies in size, mostly the looser fitting run 930-935 fps. Hatsan claims up to 1,000 fps and 33fpe maximum for the .22, I think 1,000 fps isn't too far off. A lighter lead pellet that's tight (and fresh spring & factory lube ) would definitely get 1,000 fps. These are powerhouse springers for sure. If the gun shoots good, don't worry about not making power. It's there