Hey David- I think I should have given your 312 a bit more time with the flush. Did his valve ever open up completely?
One very basic question that springs (...) to mind: did Benjamin produce spring piston airguns in the time of the 312?I don't think so. But perhaps the question should be: why not? Whilst the English were making the Lincoln Jeffries designed springers, and the Webley Service Rifle, to name two,it seems that the Americans were focussing on pumpers (and CO2's). I prefer the American style by the way. Love a bit of springer tinkering and plinking, but pumpers and CO2 feel more refined/techincally advanced, and simply shoot better, at least in my opinion. I hope this question is not too much off-topic or ignorant. But I think it's interesting to find out why Benjamin made these choices in which systems/technology to use?
If the 39X series guns did, indeed, switch to the tapered forestock in late '97 I find it interesting, because the Sheridan's still had the blocky forestock into the early 2000's. I personally saw and held one that I think was 2001, and I just saw one online the other day (can't remember where I saw it) that was a 2002.
Quote from: louisvanhovell on March 03, 2019, 12:54:48 PMOne very basic question that springs (...) to mind: did Benjamin produce spring piston airguns in the time of the 312?I don't think so. But perhaps the question should be: why not? Whilst the English were making the Lincoln Jeffries designed springers, and the Webley Service Rifle, to name two,it seems that the Americans were focussing on pumpers (and CO2's). I prefer the American style by the way. Love a bit of springer tinkering and plinking, but pumpers and CO2 feel more refined/techincally advanced, and simply shoot better, at least in my opinion. I hope this question is not too much off-topic or ignorant. But I think it's interesting to find out why Benjamin made these choices in which systems/technology to use?Short answer Louis...went it comes to springer/jumpers you’ve come to the wrong guy. The manner by which these guns must be shot scares me something awful. That’s not to say someday I’ll give them a go. As far as when Benjamin first began experimenting with spring powered or gas pistons is unknown to me. I’m certain someone here can answer that. You'll find if you visit the Shooting Gate there are members that can do some amazing things with those guns.Now, with regards to “why not”; I’m sure it has to do with how well received pneumatic pumper’s were to the big 3 American companies (Sheridan, Benjamin, Crosman) & how user friendly they were/are. I think it also has to do, as hard as it is for me to say, European gun owners were much more demanding of all their guns then we folks on this side of the pond. Speaking for myself, if I want to up the game I simply turn to powder burners.
Pardon me for chiming in, but to answer the question...Quote from: louisvanhovell on March 03, 2019, 12:54:48 PMOne very basic question that springs (...) to mind: did Benjamin produce spring piston airguns in the time of the 312?I don't think so. But perhaps the question should be: why not? Whilst the English were making the Lincoln Jeffries designed springers, and the Webley Service Rifle, to name two,it seems that the Americans were focussing on pumpers (and CO2's). I prefer the American style by the way. Love a bit of springer tinkering and plinking, but pumpers and CO2 feel more refined/techincally advanced, and simply shoot better, at least in my opinion. I hope this question is not too much off-topic or ignorant. But I think it's interesting to find out why Benjamin made these choices in which systems/technology to use?They dipped their toes in the water...Not during the time of the 312...but later in the 34X era when Benjamin was still in Racine, WI. , still separate from Crosman, they paired up with Sterling UK to try and bring a quality Springer under lever to the USA... but it was not well received.A Benjamin Sterling HR83 is on my bucket list...
Quote from: RBQChicken on March 03, 2019, 01:44:16 PMIf the 39X series guns did, indeed, switch to the tapered forestock in late '97 I find it interesting, because the Sheridan's still had the blocky forestock into the early 2000's. I personally saw and held one that I think was 2001, and I just saw one online the other day (can't remember where I saw it) that was a 2002.The B392-EVP shows two parts for the forearm. CB9-003 and CB9A003. Is the CB9-003 the block style and the CB9A003 the longer tapered style?Notes say the CB9-003 started 01/2000 and the CB9A003 started 09/2001.
Quote from: Glasstomb on March 03, 2019, 07:08:08 PMQuote from: RBQChicken on March 03, 2019, 01:44:16 PMIf the 39X series guns did, indeed, switch to the tapered forestock in late '97 I find it interesting, because the Sheridan's still had the blocky forestock into the early 2000's. I personally saw and held one that I think was 2001, and I just saw one online the other day (can't remember where I saw it) that was a 2002.The B392-EVP shows two parts for the forearm. CB9-003 and CB9A003. Is the CB9-003 the block style and the CB9A003 the longer tapered style?Notes say the CB9-003 started 01/2000 and the CB9A003 started 09/2001.Look carefully at the photo you posted...those are Streak forearms, not Benjamin's. Benjamin parts/parts list for the 397 forearm is above those...Forearm Assembly-$35.05. As stated above, the only doc found with regards to Benjamin's tapered forearm had a start date of 2007 (copy paste link below onto your browser). Best guess is the CB9B002 forearm was introduced on this date. This part number is different than any of the others you mentioned.file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/B397-EVP%20&%20PL4%20%20MFD%2010-07%20(3).pdf
Yes, all Sheridan air rifles were .20 cal.
Quote from: Yng@hrt on March 04, 2019, 04:17:24 PMYes, all Sheridan air rifles were .20 cal.Cool to have developed a relationship with a collector that has your same interests.
Quote from: 45flint on March 04, 2019, 06:10:37 PMQuote from: Yng@hrt on March 04, 2019, 04:17:24 PMYes, all Sheridan air rifles were .20 cal.Cool to have developed a relationship with a collector that has your same interests. Well we'll see what happens Steve. He's hinting at selling each as a unit. Can't say I blame him.