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Hawke Scopes - Relative Quality

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PaulFWI:
I may be crazy, but I've realized that I like my "cheap" Hawke Vantage as much more more than the considerably more expensive Airmax and Frontiers.

I have a 2-7x32 Vantage on my FX Crown, an Airmax 30 SF Compact 6-24x50 on my M3 Impact, and a Frontier 30 FFP 4-20x50 on a Tikka .17 HMR rimfire rifle.

Within the max mag range of the Vantage, the more expensive scopes don't look any better to me, optics-wise.

And that is the range I almost always use for hunting. I hunt rabbits and squirrels out to 60Y with the airguns and very rarely need or want more than 7-8x. (When trying to see if a 50Y bump is a flattened squirrel, maybe I'll turn it up. That's rare.)

The .17HMR is capable of much longer shots by virtue of being .5" flat out to 125Y; maybe the higher power will prove itself there. (Yes, I have had 100Y shots on late-season squirrels.)

But here's the big thing: I love the simple duplex reticle on the Vantage. I am old-school and just shoot within the range my gun is reasonably flat, because outside of that range usually wind/accuracy are the deciding factor anyway. And you can't get that nice, clean, simple reticle on the more expensive scopes!

Am I missing something? Sure, if I A/B'd the optics, I'd probably note a difference. But I think it's small.

I think that $130 Vantage is a complete steal. Oh, BTW, it's super light (12.8oz) also.

Xraycer:
I don't own any of the higher end Hawke models, but I do have a Vantage, and I am a fan of it! The lightweight is one of its great feature. It has been mounted on my Urban, and I am still quite happy with the pairing.

Frank in Fairfield:
I have a 2-10X Vantage on the R1.
Excellent scope.

Bayman:
I like the Vantage line. I have three 2-7 Vantage non AO 30-30 reticle. They're on a 223, 243, and 7mm-08. I have a 3-9 non AO 30-30 reticle on a 17hmr. I have a non AO 4x Vantage mildot reticle on my 177 Hw50. My wife has a Vantage IR 2-7 AO on her Hw30.  I have a Vantage 3-9x40 AO shop mule that's been on dozens of springers including a few R1s..

Airmax.
I have a 2-7 Airmax on my hw30. I have five 3-9 Airmax on my 2 Hw95s, R9, Hw98 and my R1. I have a 4-12 Airmax on my Hw97.

Oh i forgot my wife's CZ has a Vantage 3-9x40 AO too.

The Vantage scopes are high value scope in my opinion.

BTW  yesterday DVOR had the Vantage 3-9x40 AO on sale for $100. That's a darn good deal if you ask me.

PaulFWI:
Seems we all agree the Vantage are great.

Is it possible the more expensive scopes hold zero better? Or have some other advantage I'm not thinking of? I honestly don't know.

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