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caleb90
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Budget scopes
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November 17, 2021, 08:27:55 AM »
The scope that came with my hatsan mod125 is junk. I dont know much about air rifles but i know that they need special scopes. What are some durable budget scopes?
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SteveP-52
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 17, 2021, 08:59:20 AM »
Hatsan scopes usually are. They included one to make you think you got a good deal. I've only tried one of the 20 something I got
with all the Hatsan I've owned and it failed in about 400 shots on a rifle tamer than your 125.
Others will chime in but Hammers and UTG come to mind from reading what others have tried on theirs.
The 125 is a known scope killer because of the recoil. With more power comes more recoil and I'm sure you've already found out it
has more than your Model 95.
While you're sorting it out, you might also want to consider a recoil reducing scope mount. They tend to be pricy, but they
work and will help whatever scope you decide on hold up better. For those, Diana Bullseye ZR and Sportsmatch come to mind.
There's also some cheap $20 Chinese knockoffs of the Diana mount you can find on Amazon.
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sbunn15
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 17, 2021, 10:53:01 AM »
Most scopes that come with guns are jokes. I buy mine separately, even on powder burners.
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 17, 2021, 12:33:35 PM »
I'll second what SteveP-52 wrote. I have both Hammers and UTG scopes and they have taken everything dished out and have never lost zero.
I drove for almost an hour with a UTG Bugbuster on my rifle mounted on the front of an atv and it held its zero.
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 17, 2021, 12:55:34 PM »
Moved to the Optics Gate.
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 17, 2021, 06:28:45 PM »
There are lots of inexpensive-but-decent scopes today. Also lots of junk.
I can recommend HIGHLY the old standard: UTG Bugbuster, 3-9x. I think they have a 3-12X coming soon as well, though IMO that won't be as bright, and the DOF will be worse, so why bother?
Anyway, the standard Bugbuster is surprisingly bright, very crisp, and has lovely "pull-to change" turrets. Also, it focuses down to about 7 yards, which is great for pesting. The only thing I dislike is having the parallax adjuster at the front, but that's how it is with lower-cost scopes, and you get used to it quickly.
I actually bought (used) a $600 Hawke scope last year (Not the Airmax, but the line above that) thinking it would be a huge improvement. I'm not kidding when I say that there was no significant difference in clarity or brightness, even at dusk. Having the side parallax wheel wasn't enough of a difference to me, for the cost, so I re-sold it.
Also, Bugbusters have been around for quite some time, so you can probably find a nice used one for a great price.
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 17, 2021, 09:28:47 PM »
I’ll add my vote for UTG and Hammers. And CenterPoint. I have a CenterPoint 4-16X40 that has lived on top of my .22cal Hatsan mod 125 from the start. Over 1,800 shots. My old reliable Hammers 3-9X32 just died after 800 shots on my .25 cal Mod 125 and I don’t know how many shots on several other guns. Tough scope. The AO feature never worked terribly well but the scope was a beast.
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 17, 2021, 09:44:49 PM »
All my guns have varying models of UTG and Hawke. The Hawke etched AMX reticle scopes are designed specifically for springers and are well worth the coin. UTG makes the OP3 which also has an etched reticle and is made for springers. Another new scope manufacturer on the market is Westhunter, and is available on Amazon. Great price point. I'm testing one out now and so far it's clear, bright, and tough. I've used it on 3 guns so far without issue but haven't tried it on a springer yet. I'll wager it does well. Nice bit of kit with it for the money.
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SteveP-52
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 17, 2021, 10:33:18 PM »
If Westhunter has contact info, try emailing themabout trying to use one on a magnum springer along the lines of say 20-25fpe or so.
Random lame thought those scopes are rebranded Discovery's which I have one of on a PCP, but Discovery only has 3 scope lines that
will supposedly hold up on spring piston guns.
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c_m_shooter
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 19, 2021, 09:35:21 AM »
The short answer for springers is always a UTG with 30mm tube in whatever power you need.
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SteveP-52
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Re: Budget scopes
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November 19, 2021, 10:42:39 AM »
My short answer is Hawke Airmax but they don't fit the "budget" idea...lol.
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JNG
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Re: Budget scopes
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December 23, 2021, 07:18:40 PM »
Budget scope means different things to different folks. I consider anything under $200 to be questionable. Co2 and PCP? Anything will work to some degree or another. There's no 2 way recoil. Spring piston and gas ram powered air rifles have a 2 way recoil that will generally destroy most 'non springer' rated scopes in short order. My baseline for a 'budget' optic on a springer is a Japanese made Clearidge.
All that said, look into the Diana ZR Bullseye mount. While some consider it 'pricey', it tends to make even really cheap optics last on springers.
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