My scope is 2.6 in high. That’s from center barrel to center scope. Part of the equation for me is a comfortable head position, and as Hector said “ not too “tippy”. Some of the Brits experimenting with very high scopes have come back down a bit.Greg
Looking at the fx impact. That's gotta be around 3"+. People are taking championships and 150yd shots without much of an issue.
I hear ya guys. Just saying. Low bore height isn't the cat's meow. As far as optimal. I don't know if there is such a thing, unless you dedicate a rifle for certain purposes.
Scott,In the last few days been fooling around with my WFTF rig after stacking some risers under the mounts until at @ 2.8" The first thing noticed ( yea I'm long necked ) is a slightly less slumped / cramped shooting position while in "Deadman" .... which was a relief being a non Yoga guy Second was CANT .. O'my what a critical exercise that turned into finding very quickly that the increase in scope height to bore C/L would really skew pellets left / right if the bubble level was not dead nutz level when shot was taken So for at least me coming from Hunter class and low scope position stabilized via seat / sticks ... now shooting Deadman being the only way found to get as stable of sight picture, Wierd azz scope view now being sideways, no cheek weld, gun elevated via hamster resting on body parts, high X mag optics etc THERE IS SO MUCH NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO TAKING SHOT NOW ... compounded by being in constant battle with keeping "LEVEL" really is a challenge that eats up time and wears on my concentration efforts.I'm finding / thinking I would rather be slightly more slumped over having the lower scope height and ease in keeping level over some small trajectory advantage of the higher position.Jury's still out tho and just sharing personal observations on said subject as i too explore this subject.Scott S
Quote from: Motorhead on November 19, 2018, 11:26:32 PMScott,In the last few days been fooling around with my WFTF rig after stacking some risers under the mounts until at @ 2.8" The first thing noticed ( yea I'm long necked ) is a slightly less slumped / cramped shooting position while in "Deadman" .... which was a relief being a non Yoga guy Second was CANT .. O'my what a critical exercise that turned into finding very quickly that the increase in scope height to bore C/L would really skew pellets left / right if the bubble level was not dead nutz level when shot was taken So for at least me coming from Hunter class and low scope position stabilized via seat / sticks ... now shooting Deadman being the only way found to get as stable of sight picture, Wierd azz scope view now being sideways, no cheek weld, gun elevated via hamster resting on body parts, high X mag optics etc THERE IS SO MUCH NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO TAKING SHOT NOW ... compounded by being in constant battle with keeping "LEVEL" really is a challenge that eats up time and wears on my concentration efforts.I'm finding / thinking I would rather be slightly more slumped over having the lower scope height and ease in keeping level over some small trajectory advantage of the higher position.Jury's still out tho and just sharing personal observations on said subject as i too explore this subject.Scott S If your bubble is not level, the pellet will go left or right on far shots, especially with a slow/low-bc projectile that has lots of drop at that distance. The amount of "skew" is dependent on pellet drop and degrees of cant. Scope height does not enter into the equation. As Hector said earlier - a high scope is more "tippy", so it is harder to hold the rifle vertical. Compound that with a high hamster, and the rifle no longer wants to rest naturally in the vertical position.That's one reason why I prefer everything as low as possible for whatever shot will allow it. I'm only looking into a higher scope as a means to shift my point blank range farther out. And even that is only beneficial on some courses. So I decided on a compromise of 2.6" for now.Yes- same as you. Any time I start using a new position, new equipment, etc. it seems I need to address so much more. First inclination is just go back to what I was accustomed to. But it gets easier once it becomes my most used position. Bucket and sticks, prone, and the yoga position, all took some getting used to. Whatever position that I use the most always becomes my preferred position, and it does not seem to matter what the position is.I don't think you need a 2.8" high scope for WFTF Division on AAFTA courses. 2" to 2.5" is probably better.
Quote from: Scotchmo on November 19, 2018, 11:58:39 PMQuote from: Motorhead on November 19, 2018, 11:26:32 PMScott,In the last few days been fooling around with my WFTF rig after stacking some risers under the mounts until at @ 2.8" The first thing noticed ( yea I'm long necked ) is a slightly less slumped / cramped shooting position while in "Deadman" .... which was a relief being a non Yoga guy Second was CANT .. O'my what a critical exercise that turned into finding very quickly that the increase in scope height to bore C/L would really skew pellets left / right if the bubble level was not dead nutz level when shot was taken So for at least me coming from Hunter class and low scope position stabilized via seat / sticks ... now shooting Deadman being the only way found to get as stable of sight picture, Wierd azz scope view now being sideways, no cheek weld, gun elevated via hamster resting on body parts, high X mag optics etc THERE IS SO MUCH NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO TAKING SHOT NOW ... compounded by being in constant battle with keeping "LEVEL" really is a challenge that eats up time and wears on my concentration efforts.I'm finding / thinking I would rather be slightly more slumped over having the lower scope height and ease in keeping level over some small trajectory advantage of the higher position.Jury's still out tho and just sharing personal observations on said subject as i too explore this subject.Scott S If your bubble is not level, the pellet will go left or right on far shots, especially with a slow/low-bc projectile that has lots of drop at that distance. The amount of "skew" is dependent on pellet drop and degrees of cant. Scope height does not enter into the equation. As Hector said earlier - a high scope is more "tippy", so it is harder to hold the rifle vertical. Compound that with a high hamster, and the rifle no longer wants to rest naturally in the vertical position.That's one reason why I prefer everything as low as possible for whatever shot will allow it. I'm only looking into a higher scope as a means to shift my point blank range farther out. And even that is only beneficial on some courses. So I decided on a compromise of 2.6" for now.Yes- same as you. Any time I start using a new position, new equipment, etc. it seems I need to address so much more. First inclination is just go back to what I was accustomed to. But it gets easier once it becomes my most used position. Bucket and sticks, prone, and the yoga position, all took some getting used to. Whatever position that I use the most always becomes my preferred position, and it does not seem to matter what the position is.I don't think you need a 2.8" high scope for WFTF Division on AAFTA courses. 2" to 2.5" is probably better.With greater distance between the bore and the line of sight, does it not move the rifle further laterally from the line of sight at a given amount of cant?