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Robert 5mm:
I got a Talon SS in .20 with the internal moderator ( SS ) with the 12 inch barrel.

I also got the 18" 16mm .22 barrel ( SS moderator removed )

I got the external moderator designed by Subscriber and printed by Torquemaster. ( again thanks )

The 3d printed internal parts also required a aluminum outer pipe casing.

After assembly it works very quiet and attaches to the Talon SS end.

Pictures of Subscriber's design and the finished Talon

TorqueMaster:
Looks great, Robert.  Glad the project was a success!

OldCrow:

--- Quote from: Robert 5mm on August 24, 2024, 11:53:41 AM ---I got a Talon SS in .20 with the internal moderator ( SS ) with the 12 inch barrel.

I also got the 18" 16mm .22 barrel ( SS moderator removed )

I got the external moderator designed by Subscriber and printed by Torquemaster. ( again thanks )

The 3d printed internal parts also required a aluminum outer pipe casing.

After assembly it works very quiet and attaches to the Talon SS end.

Pictures of Subscriber's design and the finished Talon

--- End quote ---

Really nice looking design there @subscriber.  All you would have to do to make that a bit more "tesla-ish" would be to vent the first and third baffles from the muzzle with vents around the circumference of the cone.  Have you considered that?  What do you think?

Definitely like the muzzle chamber.  That (muzzle chamber insert) would be nice printed in TPU but I think it would be a nightmare to do it.  Very nice design and very well executed @TorqueMaster .  Good job guys!

@Robert 5mm.  Go to Midwayusa and search on "Aluminum Black".  It is a Birchwood Casey product.  You can use that to get a nice dark black finish on that tubing.

Robert 5mm:
I did try Birchwood Casey's Aluminum Black - then went with primer paint and enamel

subscriber:
Thanks for posting this, Robert.  I just noticed the thread.

OldCrow, I have done some Tesla Valve mods, inspired by how you design your TVs, that work really well.  I actually did some TV designs for another member's .25 Talon and they were not as effective as what I have dubbed my "plume baffle" design - like the one shown by Robert above.  I think this is due to the stock handguard forming a huge reflex expansion chamber, that robs the forward airflow of the energy required for the TVs to work really well.

I think that Robert's .20 lacks the intensity to benefit from such a large TV design.  That said, I think one could make a much smaller TV unit that would be driven hard enough to make it seems very effective for its size. 

I basically just provided Robert with a design that worked well for another guy's .25 Talon.  I did not even reduce the baffle bore diameters to suit the .20 caliber.  Reason being I am a little skeptical about the integrity of the way the moderator is attached to the stock shroud, and am being very cautious about droop and potential clipping. 

My plume baffles may not work as well in some applications as my TV designs.  But the plumes always seem to work well enough and are not as finicky or power dependent, as it seems TV designs can be.  It is possible that my TV designs need to be adapted better for each application, and that I lack experience with them to achieve that.

Anyway, the removable "spool" at the front of the system shown should be wrapped with felt or open cell foam.  That large cushioned chamber removes "ring" and "hiss" to a noticeable degree, for a more pleasant sound.  Printing the spool from softer material might make it work better, especially if it were left unwrapped, but felt or foam wrapped PETG seems to work really well.

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