After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Mpac
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After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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August 19, 2012, 05:27:50 PM »
That low shot was not having the barrel closed tight,I'll have to video the barrel on how easy it is to break it open,after that I made sure it closed good and it stayed in the high760's and low 770's it's shooting in the 31 to over 32 ft. lbs. range now.Using H&N FT 24.38 Grain.
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Telferner ,Tx
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.
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August 19, 2012, 05:58:21 PM »
Looks like a real powerfull .25 cal rifle!
Is there a way to tighten up the barrel lock up? I believe there is a spring loaded detent ball in the breech area?
My Sniper is still on the tight side.
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supertech77
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.
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August 19, 2012, 06:07:57 PM »
its getting better huh?
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.
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August 19, 2012, 06:11:02 PM »
I'm going to look into that to see what I can do without voiding the warranty I really like the gun and hatsan has a usa website to do warranty, by chance would that be Umarex that does warranty?
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Telferner ,Tx
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.
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August 19, 2012, 06:12:38 PM »
Quote from: supertech77 on August 19, 2012, 06:07:57 PM
its getting better huh?
Yes it is when I take a shot you can hear the pop out of the muzzle sounds like serious horse power.
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Telferner ,Tx
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Beeman GS1000 177cal.
Hatsan 135/.25 Vortek Kit
Benji XL1100/22
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Avenger Bullpup 25 cal.
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Mpac
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Reply #5 on:
August 19, 2012, 06:41:44 PM »
Yall let me know if that's to loose and excuse the goof ball doing the video and the movie that was showing is Judge Dredd if anyone's curious.
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Telferner ,Tx
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RWS 34's 177classic/22cal.both Vortek Kits
Beeman GS1000 177cal.
Hatsan 135/.25 Vortek Kit
Benji XL1100/22
Umarex Origin 22cal.{PCp}
Avenger Bullpup 25 cal.
Sumatra 500 22 cal.
AirForce Talon SS .25
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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August 19, 2012, 08:03:38 PM »
That does seem pretty loose for a Hatsan.
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Reply #7 on:
August 19, 2012, 08:11:40 PM »
Yes,that is a bit loose. You have to hit the barrel,with palm of hand to get mine to budge.
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Mpac
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Reply #8 on:
August 19, 2012, 08:58:07 PM »
I have a junked out walther falccon hunter I'm going to look and maybe use that spring out of it ,if it's a simple task.
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Telferner ,Tx
Keep Air Guns In The Right Hands(YOURS)
RWS 350Panther/22cal. self-tuned
RWS 460Mag/22cal. >.130 wire
RWS 350 Wood/177 cal. .130 wire
RWS 34's 177classic/22cal.both Vortek Kits
Beeman GS1000 177cal.
Hatsan 135/.25 Vortek Kit
Benji XL1100/22
Umarex Origin 22cal.{PCp}
Avenger Bullpup 25 cal.
Sumatra 500 22 cal.
AirForce Talon SS .25
Airforce Talon SS .177
Gamo Mach1 .22
Gamo Magnum .22
Sportsman RS2 Series .22
Beeman Mach 12.5 .22
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Reply #9 on:
August 19, 2012, 09:55:21 PM »
My old falcon hunter was easy to get to so I think i'm going to use the lock up spring from that one on this new gun at least the 135 has a screw on the barrel not like the hunter had to center punch the pin out of that one behind the barrel washers is a small pin that holds the alive jam in place ,sure wish I had that work bench I've been looking at , at habor frieght would come in handy about right now.
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Telferner ,Tx
Keep Air Guns In The Right Hands(YOURS)
RWS 350Panther/22cal. self-tuned
RWS 460Mag/22cal. >.130 wire
RWS 350 Wood/177 cal. .130 wire
RWS 34's 177classic/22cal.both Vortek Kits
Beeman GS1000 177cal.
Hatsan 135/.25 Vortek Kit
Benji XL1100/22
Umarex Origin 22cal.{PCp}
Avenger Bullpup 25 cal.
Sumatra 500 22 cal.
AirForce Talon SS .25
Airforce Talon SS .177
Gamo Mach1 .22
Gamo Magnum .22
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Beeman Mach 12.5 .22
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thekid
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Reply #10 on:
August 19, 2012, 11:55:48 PM »
Tightening the barrel is not the problem.
The spring in the live jamb needs to be replaced.Unlike crosman, I believe they use a pin that goes through the breach block to retain the live jam.
At least all the hatsans I have had were built that way.
Put a new strong spring in there and you will need to smack it off the ground to open it
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Mpac
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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August 20, 2012, 12:22:42 AM »
I have the spring on hand from my junked out walther falcon hunter that spring is tough I tried to push in the alive jam and it was hard so I taken out the spring on that one just need to install it in my 135 it's the exact same set up.I'll do it later in the week that'll give me an excuse to not shoot it till the work is done ,I'm getting low on ammo and do have more on the way.The change of spring looks pretty straight forward.
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Telferner ,Tx
Keep Air Guns In The Right Hands(YOURS)
RWS 350Panther/22cal. self-tuned
RWS 460Mag/22cal. >.130 wire
RWS 350 Wood/177 cal. .130 wire
RWS 34's 177classic/22cal.both Vortek Kits
Beeman GS1000 177cal.
Hatsan 135/.25 Vortek Kit
Benji XL1100/22
Umarex Origin 22cal.{PCp}
Avenger Bullpup 25 cal.
Sumatra 500 22 cal.
AirForce Talon SS .25
Airforce Talon SS .177
Gamo Mach1 .22
Gamo Magnum .22
Sportsman RS2 Series .22
Beeman Mach 12.5 .22
Stoeger S8000E-TAC .22
Norica Black Eagle .22
Benjamin Model 397
supertech77
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Reply #12 on:
August 20, 2012, 12:25:27 AM »
Dan both my wfh and wth work just as yours with the same force,it always locks up tight,and breaks open some what smooth and snug,yet not hard,and the r.a.m is even easier,i don't think anything is wrong with it,or i can't really tell from the video.
keep shooting it let it break in ,then if you have a problem start swaping or send it in ,imo..anyway.can you push the ball/live jam in with you finger?on mine i can't.
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umarex e.b.o.s full auto bb hpa adapted]
[break barrels}
wfh, 22 NP [tune
22 cal [tuned] ruger air magnum
25 cal [tuned] ruger air magnum
np trail 22,[tuned]
(pcp's}
B-50 177 [tuned]
B50 22 [tuned]
850 22 [tuned] hpa mod done regulated]
mrod 22 [tuned] custom stock
mrod 25 [tuned] bullpup custom vip stock]walther barrel
Sumatra .25 cal 500[stock]
condor .25 [tuned]
condor .257 hot rod [D.N custom valve system] 90ci tank doug noble custom adapter,r&l custom barrel,with spare r&l custom barrel,
bulldog,357 power tuned,max shroud custom extension installed.
rainstorm 2 357.[stock]
shin-sung Fire 201 / 357 [tuned] 9mm
Sam-yang 909 twin tube [aaf tune kit] 45 cal
Sam yang 909s , 45 [tuned]
TEXAN 457 . [stock ] with r&l shroud
eqip, 5x20x sight,paladin mk390
Mpac
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Posts: 1801
Real Name: Daniel
Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Reply #13 on:
August 20, 2012, 12:37:03 AM »
yes I can push it in with my finger and after the shot I noticed the barrel opens about a 16th of an inch and that shouldn't happen at least I don't think it should.The swap out on the spring looks fairly easy.I sure don't want to send it in after all the shots I have on it already I know it's getting close to breaking in.
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Telferner ,Tx
Keep Air Guns In The Right Hands(YOURS)
RWS 350Panther/22cal. self-tuned
RWS 460Mag/22cal. >.130 wire
RWS 350 Wood/177 cal. .130 wire
RWS 34's 177classic/22cal.both Vortek Kits
Beeman GS1000 177cal.
Hatsan 135/.25 Vortek Kit
Benji XL1100/22
Umarex Origin 22cal.{PCp}
Avenger Bullpup 25 cal.
Sumatra 500 22 cal.
AirForce Talon SS .25
Airforce Talon SS .177
Gamo Mach1 .22
Gamo Magnum .22
Sportsman RS2 Series .22
Beeman Mach 12.5 .22
Stoeger S8000E-TAC .22
Norica Black Eagle .22
Benjamin Model 397
Mpac
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Real Name: Daniel
Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Reply #14 on:
August 21, 2012, 04:15:20 PM »
Well I told myself I wasn't going to do it,had trouble getting the set screw off the SAS so I stopped there and the next day I tried again and it finally gave so I did replace the whole alive jam and spring from my junked out WFH and it worked now just waiting on my ammo to come in.The small spring from the WFH seems tad bigger wire than the new one just a smiggin longer too.
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Telferner ,Tx
Keep Air Guns In The Right Hands(YOURS)
RWS 350Panther/22cal. self-tuned
RWS 460Mag/22cal. >.130 wire
RWS 350 Wood/177 cal. .130 wire
RWS 34's 177classic/22cal.both Vortek Kits
Beeman GS1000 177cal.
Hatsan 135/.25 Vortek Kit
Benji XL1100/22
Umarex Origin 22cal.{PCp}
Avenger Bullpup 25 cal.
Sumatra 500 22 cal.
AirForce Talon SS .25
Airforce Talon SS .177
Gamo Mach1 .22
Gamo Magnum .22
Sportsman RS2 Series .22
Beeman Mach 12.5 .22
Stoeger S8000E-TAC .22
Norica Black Eagle .22
Benjamin Model 397
thekid
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Re: After 400+ shots with model 135 25 cal.( Lock Up Video added)
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Reply #15 on:
August 21, 2012, 11:01:21 PM »
Glad you got it all fixed up, and before the the brown truck showed up.
Have to be itching right now.
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