I don't. I can and have before, heard the muttered gasps of "blasphemer" from the audience. The sharp intakes of breath from fellow members who mutter how dare he not with that fine German rifle. Even been told in private if that's the way I think I never should have bought one...lol. And yes it's happened because there are members who know whatever gets said in a PM has to stay there and is not allowed to be made public on this forum so they know they can get away with it...lol.I don't because I do now and always have thought that for what I paid to get my hands on the fine pieces of German engineering I do own and I have 5 of them, I should not have to do anything more than clean the barrel, check the stock screws, drop of oil on pivot points and go shoot it. For the record, I do have one rifle that came tuned and to be honest, if I'd thought about it more at the time, I would have asked that it be returned to the factory spring and seal before it was shipped to me.Now let me go grab some popcorn and sit back to enjoy the replies I'll get for what I just typed...lolololololololol
Not for nothing but, I'm pretty good with a sling shot at 30 feet. I probably won't spend that kind of money to shoot 10 yds.
Never said I don't "believe" in tuning, just said I don't feel I should have to with a NIB rifle, especially not one I pay that kind of money for...lol. No doubt the day will come since springs and seals don't last forever and when that day comes, I will
Quote from: SteveP-52 on February 15, 2021, 10:09:10 PMNever said I don't "believe" in tuning, just said I don't feel I should have to with a NIB rifle, especially not one I pay that kind of money for...lol. No doubt the day will come since springs and seals don't last forever and when that day comes, I will And when it does, you won't be happy with an untuned gun again.
Never said I don't "believe" in tuning, just said I don't feel I should have to with a NIB rifle, especially not one I pay that kind of money for...lol.
PS: I do not want my horses to kick me in the head, I do not want my dogs to hump my leg, I do not want my airguns to jump when fired. Strange, I know...
It's all about expectations, some are lower, some are higher. Neither is wrong.Should I have to tune a new springer to enjoy it ? Probably not........ Do I have to tune a new springer to enjoy it ? YEPThat's because MY expectations are high.When I plan on buying a new springer, I budget for the gun and a tune right from the start.Some suffer from TDS (Tune Derangement Syndrome) They may not really want to spend the money to get a gun tuned, which is fine, or they don't believe it tuning, but they don't want anyone else to get a gun tuned either So when someone asks an opinion about getting a gun tuned, they say DON'T DO IT ! and don't pay any attention to anyone that tells you you should. This doesn't help anyone, why not just give your opinion and experiences and leave it at that.Good news is there is a cure for TDS !! Get you a good German springer and have it tuned for smoothness and accuracy TDS will start to subside and you will see what you have been missing.
Quote from: jusanothajoe on February 16, 2021, 07:19:27 AMIt's all about expectations, some are lower, some are higher. Neither is wrong.Should I have to tune a new springer to enjoy it ? Probably not........ Do I have to tune a new springer to enjoy it ? YEPThat's because MY expectations are high.When I plan on buying a new springer, I budget for the gun and a tune right from the start.Some suffer from TDS (Tune Derangement Syndrome) They may not really want to spend the money to get a gun tuned, which is fine, or they don't believe it tuning, but they don't want anyone else to get a gun tuned either So when someone asks an opinion about getting a gun tuned, they say DON'T DO IT ! and don't pay any attention to anyone that tells you you should. This doesn't help anyone, why not just give your opinion and experiences and leave it at that.Good news is there is a cure for TDS !! Get you a good German springer and have it tuned for smoothness and accuracy TDS will start to subside and you will see what you have been missing. I've been around the forums 5+ years now and I say forums because I belong to more than a few. No, not long compared to a lot of members on those forums but I read them and a lot. I've read plenty on tuning vs not tuning and the opinions across the board on the subject. I freely admit I used to be that guy that said "Don't do it". We both know all the above comments are aimed at me and that's fine, again, I'm used to it..lol. It also shows yet again that my long held belief that members either ignore what I post or only pick up on the parts they want to is proven yet again. I say that because you obviously haven't. If you had truly paid attention, you would have noticed that when I do say anything about tuning a new gun, my usual response for a couple years now has been to say shoot a tin pellets through it and get a feel for everything about that new rifle so if you decide to have it tuned, you'll see and feel the difference. You know, the way you stated you used to which was as soon as possible until you decided to budget for the tune along with the new rifle and just have them sent straight to the tuner first.I gave my opinions and experiences and I left them at that, unlike you and the snarky TDS aka Tune Derangement Syndrome comment. Nowhere in the comments I have made did I tell anyone NOT to or try to stop them or say because I don't, I don't want them to either. All I said was "I don't" and why I don't...lol.I'll also refer back to the point of people only reading the parts of my posts they want because like you said above, your "Cure for TDS" is to "Get you a good German springer and have it tuned for smoothness and accuracy" and both you and Chase would appear to have totally missed/ignored where I said I actually already do own one, Professionally tuned before I ever got the rifle, and have mentioned the fact that I do several times now so, Yes Kids, I do know the difference between a well tuned German springer and an untuned one...lol. BTW, thank you for not sending the Beeman R9 .20 cal off to a tuner before I bought it from you, although when the time comes that I decide to or it needs to be, I can send it off to John in PA or just do it myself since I know how I'll end with pics of that already mentioned several times, Professionally tuned and will add Custom Built by Diana no less, Diana D34k Premium .20 caliber break barrel, Number 15 of 30 made Bladebum, my apologies for derailing your thread and to everyone reading: tune or not to tune that choice is yours and yours alone to make