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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Nomadic Pirate on December 03, 2018, 03:14:27 PM
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OK then, here we go.
the gun feels definitely lighter then small bores RainStorms, the stock is the same design of the Rainstorms wood so is very ergonomic with a great feel to it, also the soft touch feels good too.
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I like how they made the butt end and stock one unit.
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Finally Evanix got Weaver rails on normal rifles too ;D
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the shroud cap has an adaptor but also the cap/shroud are the same size of any other Evanix gun so if you already have LDCs you can use them.
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the barrel is longer then the standard small bores Rainstorms
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I only have this .22 pellets so I'll start shooting her in with them, I already have a pellets order coming in ;D
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Planning to tune her down to the mid/high 20 FPE range to shoot the 14gr pellets in the -/+ 900 fps
so I already cut the spring ( Spring is bigger then Rainstorms springs so I couldn't use my spares )
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Once Travis sources springs I will buy a few to take the gun back to full power if I want or even power it up to shoot the heavy EunJin pellets ( I thing the mag will fit the 32gr )
.....Ok, time to scope the gun and start some shooting ;D ;D
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Anticipation !!!!
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I think I screwed up !!! and cut the spring to short, it's not cycling. :( :(
gonna try move the trigger block back and see if it helps.
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Stretch It out many that's what I did.
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So, moving the trigger block back and screwing the HammerSpring plug all the way did the trick
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But yeah I think I cut it to short I must have shot over 100 pellets and only gone down 70 BAR.
Sure it's fun to just shoot :) .....cool how you can change the mag wothout cocking the gun, just keep changing mags and pull the trigger :) :)
Preliminary shooting and the gun cycles good and both mags work well
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(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1172_zpstonu6qwj.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1172_zpstonu6qwj.jpg.html)
Even with this marginal pellets, unbroken gun and 15-20 mph side winds this was a full mag group at 30 yards
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Subscribed :D
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Manny glad to see that moving the trigger block back did the trick !!! I'm sure you'll still be after a stock spring as well, at least closer to where you want it now but having the option for the original spring is a must.
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Couple things I don't like,
Not a fan of safeties inside the trigger guard, and this one works opposite then the Crosman/gamo safeties.
the Magazines are well designed but the spring is strong and with the new shield around the drum it's hard to wind them for the last few pellets,...but I found a way to make it easier :) :) will make a video soon.
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Couple things I don't like,
Not a fan of safeties inside the trigger guard, and this one works opposite then the Crosman/gamo safeties.
the Magazines are well designed but the spring is strong and with the new shield around the drum it's hard to wind them for the last few pellets,...but I found a way to make it easier :) :) will make a video soon.
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Those are good points and the two things I don't like either. Other than that its Magic!!
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I'll bet that soft touch stock would be good in the colder climates too.
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Will your RS 2 stock fit it?
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Will your RS 2 stock fit it?
Nope, trigger block comes down to far.
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I’m not sure what happened in the second pic from the first post but the stock is desert tan in color . All the other pics are black . Maybe the flash from the camera caused the shift in color .
Thanks for the great pics Manny. Looks like the .22 is a real winner .
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I’m not sure what happened in the second pic from the first post but the stock is desert tan in color . All the other pics are black . Maybe the flash from the camera caused the shift in color .
Thanks for the great pics Manny. Looks like the .22 is a real winner .
Yep, the flash made the Charcol grey stock seem much lighter.
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Buggers, mines still sitting in Orlando....."anticipation" ;D
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Will your RS 2 stock fit it?
Nope, trigger block comes down to far.
Ah well... thanks for checking.
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I’m not sure what happened in the second pic from the first post but the stock is desert tan in color . All the other pics are black . Maybe the flash from the camera caused the shift in color .
Thanks for the great pics Manny. Looks like the .22 is a real winner .
Yep, the flash made the Charcol grey stock seem much lighter.
That's nothing. The full mag group he mentioned came out invisible.
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I’m not sure what happened in the second pic from the first post but the stock is desert tan in color . All the other pics are black . Maybe the flash from the camera caused the shift in color .
Thanks for the great pics Manny. Looks like the .22 is a real winner .
Yep, the flash made the Charcol grey stock seem much lighter.
That's nothing. The full mag group he mentioned came out invisible.
Lol that’s funny . I forgot to mention the missing pic .
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I have always assumed that a semi-auto PCP would give up either shot count or power in order to make the action work. I'm following just to see whether this is the case.
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You guys know that cutting a spring to make it shorter, in fact makes the spring rate go up. In other words the spring is stronger by the ratio of how many coils were cut off. If the spring feels lighter in application after cutting coils off, it is because of the reduced preload. But the spring rate itself is higher after cutting. But maybe that is effect JSAR was looking for. :)
Forgot to mention - I want a .22 Air Speed, BAD!!
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Oh Man!!! Manny, you lucky Guy. I'm so wanting to shoot one of these. 8)
As a consolation, I cast a few thousand slugs for the Rainstorm This afternoon. ;)
Mike
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Manny your Shot group didn't show. GRRRRR!!! :(
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Will my gorilla-like finger fit between the safety and trigger? Doesn't look like there's much space.
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I’m not sure what happened in the second pic from the first post but the stock is desert tan in color . All the other pics are black . Maybe the flash from the camera caused the shift in color .
Thanks for the great pics Manny. Looks like the .22 is a real winner .
Yep, the flash made the Charcol grey stock seem much lighter.
That's nothing. The full mag group he mentioned came out invisible.
Lol that’s funny . I forgot to mention the missing pic .
Here is that picture, forgot to upload it :) :)
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Put a sling stud on today so I can get a Bipod mounted
Got some epoxy in there too for extra security
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And then I went out to do more shooting :)
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Must have shot more then 200 pellets so far, everything seems to be braking in good, haven't cleaned the barrel yet maybe tomorrow.
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Manny what do you think of the trigger? When you get your supply
of pellets & find the magic pellet I would like to some 50 yrd groups.
This air rifle has got my interest. :D
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Manny what do you think of the trigger? When you get your supply
of pellets & find the magic pellet I would like to some 50 yrd groups.
This air rifle has got my interest. :D
I was just thinking about that,..... all day I didn't even noticed the trigger ( to much fun just shooting away :) )
But yeah, the trigger must be nice because I didn't even realized it was there :) :)
I got some H&N 14gr coming,
But I think real accuracy testing will be once Springs become available to change powers, I'm expecting the H&N baracuda 21gr will be good ( always where on my other .22 Evanix guns )
and there's so many pellets to try, .......but yeah, the key is gonna be having different springs to change power levels.
Kinda hard for me to get real accuracy grouping since where I live is always blowing pretty hard from right to left, the day started with 10-15 knots early in the morning and by noon it was blowing 30 knots, and this is your typical trade winds day here.
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In a way it was a strange day today,
The Air Speed feels and looks like all my other guns, so every time I was going to pull the lever to reload I was reaching for the safety that wasn't there,
also I had to remind myself I didn't need to pull the lever to extract the Magazine ( now that is one cool feature indeed, once the mag is empty you just pull it out and insert an other one and right away resume shooting )
The gun feels it has more kick then a Storm small bore, maybe the cycling of the semi auto direct air to the bolt ?
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I ordered a few springs to test out today. It’s and odd size but I found a few to test.
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I have always assumed that a semi-auto PCP would give up either shot count or power in order to make the action work. I'm following just to see whether this is the case.
I don't know how Mr Lee did it, but yeah the Air Speed lost power compared to the Storms but it gained a bunch of shots too.
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I ordered a few springs to test out today. It’s and odd size but I found a few to test.
Cool, I like to have a line up of springs to change the character of rifle for what I want to do with them,......every rifle I have I have a set of springs ready just for that.
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Pirate, man you are living the life. Your spread reminds me of the one where the Magnum PI series was shot.
Say, you wouldn't need need a butler by any chance would you ? I'll settle for minimum wage.
Apologies for the small digression.
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In a way it was a strange day today,
The Air Speed feels and looks like all my other guns, so every time I was going to pull the lever to reload I was reaching for the safety that wasn't there,
also I had to remind myself I didn't need to pull the lever to extract the Magazine ( now that is one cool feature indeed, once the mag is empty you just pull it out and insert an other one and right away resume shooting )
The gun feels it has more kick then a Storm small bore, maybe the cycling of the semi auto direct air to the bolt ?
Quick question, how do you know when the magazine is empty? Is it like the Hatsan AT44 mag where it's just blowing air out the barrel after the last pellet is shot, or more like an Mrod where the magazine stops the bolt from going forward?
Mine finally made it to the local post office, so I hope to have it later today.
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Paul from what I've been seeing on some video's it looks like people shoot an empty chamber and hear the difference but I could be wrong ???
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Yeah Wayne is right. You'll hear it or just remember to keep track in your head when shooting it.
I'm with Manny on this one. A very fun gun to shoot with a pretty good trigger I think for a semi auto. Accuracy seems good but more testing needed. I also found the magazines to be alittle on the stiff side but not too too bad. Also not a fan of the safety but that's ok. It's a fun gun to shoot for sure and feels nice in the hand. Also from my playing around with it seems easy to take apart and work on which I find nice. I also kept pulling the lever back to remove the magazine until I realized I didn't need to lol is a nice feature.
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Pirate, man you are living the life. Your spread reminds me of the one where the Magnum PI series was shot.
Say, you wouldn't need need a butler by any chance would you ? I'll settle for minimum wage.
Apologies for the small digression.
I an the butler :) :)
well, I'm the caretaker and live in the little studio attached to the main house which reminds me that Wednesday vacation renters come in so little or no shooting for 2 weeks
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In a way it was a strange day today,
The Air Speed feels and looks like all my other guns, so every time I was going to pull the lever to reload I was reaching for the safety that wasn't there,
also I had to remind myself I didn't need to pull the lever to extract the Magazine ( now that is one cool feature indeed, once the mag is empty you just pull it out and insert an other one and right away resume shooting )
The gun feels it has more kick then a Storm small bore, maybe the cycling of the semi auto direct air to the bolt ?
Quick question, how do you know when the magazine is empty? Is it like the Hatsan AT44 mag where it's just blowing air out the barrel after the last pellet is shot, or more like an Mrod where the magazine stops the bolt from going forward?
Mine finally made it to the local post office, so I hope to have it later today.
count your shots ( hard to do, mag is empty before you know it :) ), or you'll hear the different sound
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Yeah Wayne is right. You'll hear it or just remember to keep track in your head when shooting it.
I'm with Manny on this one. A very fun gun to shoot with a pretty good trigger I think for a semi auto. Accuracy seems good but more testing needed. I also found the magazines to be alittle on the stiff side but not too too bad. Also not a fan of the safety but that's ok. It's a fun gun to shoot for sure and feels nice in the hand. Also from my playing around with it seems easy to take apart and work on which I find nice. I also kept pulling the lever back to remove the magazine until I realized I didn't need to lol is a nice feature.
Are you gonna keep it stock power or de-tune it ? .....I woild try some H&N Baracuda and Baracuda hunter in stock power, JSB 25gr and EunJin 28gr
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I'm gonna try the 25gr JSBs as I have a bunch of those. But I will probably detune eventually
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I'm gonna try the 25gr JSBs as I have a bunch of those. But I will probably detune eventually
For anyone whos going to de-tune PLEASE break it in first and wait till I have springs to use dont cut your stock spring down it can cause issues.
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These are really nice, I can imagine "Semi-Auto" can get a bit out of hand. lol
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I'm gonna try the 25gr JSBs as I have a bunch of those. But I will probably detune eventually
For anyone whos going to de-tune PLEASE break it in first and wait till I have springs to use dont cut your stock spring down it can cause issues.
What he said :) :) ....or cut a little at a time, not like I did :)
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Yeah Wayne is right. You'll hear it or just remember to keep track in your head when shooting it.
I'm with Manny on this one. A very fun gun to shoot with a pretty good trigger I think for a semi auto. Accuracy seems good but more testing needed. I also found the magazines to be alittle on the stiff side but not too too bad. Also not a fan of the safety but that's ok. It's a fun gun to shoot for sure and feels nice in the hand. Also from my playing around with it seems easy to take apart and work on which I find nice. I also kept pulling the lever back to remove the magazine until I realized I didn't need to lol is a nice feature.
Dillon my Airmax Dominator is very similar but the thing that I like about it is the fact you can pull the mag out anytime you want and refill it then put it back in the gun on an empty chamber if you already had a round chamebered when you took it out.
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Barrel cleaning time.
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As I was at it I exchanged the shroud with one of my .357/.30 since the color matches more the action, the more Matte finish of the AirSpeed shroud I will use for one of the guns that I painted the air tube
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Also I exchanged the endcap with a Rain Storm endcap.
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and I had some baffles in a bag so I got some in there ;D ;D
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back to shooting ;D ;D
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I mentioned how the Magazine is a bit of a pain to load,......because compared to the standard Evanix Mags the drum is 2/3ds covered by a shield and that makes it hard to turn mainly when you get to the last 3-4 chambers
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So, this is what I do
grab the mag so your thumb works as a break
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load a pellet on the 1st chamber and use whatever tool ( I use an old valve stem ) to seat the pellet
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now in one motion move the tool to the next chamber
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Use the tool to rotate the chamber ( very easy this way ) while your thumb works as a break,
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Keep doing that and you always have a ready chamber to load and it's very steady and easy to rotate
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....Hope I made sense ;D ;D ;D
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Thats how I do it with a golf tee ;D
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That makes a lot of sense Manny, thanks!
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If,.....if you decide to shoot short pellets like I'm doing make sure you seat them properly,
today I got sloppy loading so many magazines that I must have not seated a pellet the right way, it ended up jumping back into the open probe and fell into the hammer, all of a sudden I was having a bunch of missfires and couldn't make sense of it until I heard something ratting,...took the trigger group out, the hammerspring out and could see 2 mangled pieces of pellet in the hammer chute,....got them out, did some cleaning with Ballistol and put the gun back together,...will see tomorrow morning if I did it right :)
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Just when I thought I didn’t want any more guns ::). Nice review so far :D
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Done !!!
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well,....for now ;D
shot the 500 pellets I had on hand so now I have to wait for some to come in.
I know it's only been 48 hours so it's early days and only time will tell but I think Mr Lee came out with a wicked action, seems to be a real winner in the Semi-Auto segment,
very reliable, good trigger, seems to take well to be tuned to different powers, hard to tell with marginal pellets and shooting in 30 knots crosswinds but accuracy looks very consistent, and I was getting a ton of shots per fill with what was no real POI change at 30-35 yards.
Will resume testing once I get pellets in,.....and in the meantime looking forward to other reviewers ;)
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A little something,
haven't heard this from anyone else, but both my mags had a little problem.
after you take the plate out there's a screw that keep the drum in place, if that screw loosens up the drum gets out of place and doesn't alligns anymore and also will push the plate out so the mag will bind in the well.
Take the plate out, take the drum screw out, wiggle the drum untill it clicks into place, I've Red loctited the drum screw then Blue loctited the 2 screws that keep the plate.
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They certainly are iddy biddy screws. I'm still tinkering with my Air Speed. Will do some shot strings tomorrow, and report back. I've had mine completely apart, and back together. VERY simple inside. Not a lot of parts. Neat design. Just not real happy with the watch type screws here and there. Make sure you have a good set of tiny philips screw drivers if you decide to tinker, and as always, a good set of metric allen wrenches. 8)
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I like what I,m hearing. Reliable & decent trigger. I,m ready for the hunt Manny. :D
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Mine ate a couple pellets today, same thing that happened to Manny. A call to travis got me back up and running.
I'm still chasing an accuracy problem, I'm having a 1" shift in POI in the middle of a shot string, darnedest thing I've ever run up against. I'll get a decent group of 3 shots, then the POI will shift an inch and will group nicely, but an inch off from the first group! Not sure what's causing it, swapped scopes thinking that was the problem, but it persisted. Travis had me try a couple other things to try and isolate the cause, but it persists. We are currently pondering the situation with hopes of finding a solution...
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What pellets where you shooting ?
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They certainly are iddy biddy screws. I'm still tinkering with my Air Speed. Will do some shot strings tomorrow, and report back. I've had mine completely apart, and back together. VERY simple inside. Not a lot of parts. Neat design. Just not real happy with the watch type screws here and there. Make sure you have a good set of tiny philips screw drivers if you decide to tinker, and as always, a good set of metric allen wrenches. 8)
Got me this awhile back
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079FN23MM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079FN23MM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
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This is a nice little set too that I got a while back.
https://www.amazon.com/Vastar-Magnetic-Precision-Screwdriver-Smartphone/dp/B015F734P0/ref=sr_1_10?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1544094731&sr=1-10&keywords=hex+socket+watch+repair (https://www.amazon.com/Vastar-Magnetic-Precision-Screwdriver-Smartphone/dp/B015F734P0/ref=sr_1_10?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1544094731&sr=1-10&keywords=hex+socket+watch+repair)
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This is a nice little set too that I got a while back.
https://www.amazon.com/Vastar-Magnetic-Precision-Screwdriver-Smartphone/dp/B015F734P0/ref=sr_1_10?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1544094731&sr=1-10&keywords=hex+socket+watch+repair (https://www.amazon.com/Vastar-Magnetic-Precision-Screwdriver-Smartphone/dp/B015F734P0/ref=sr_1_10?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1544094731&sr=1-10&keywords=hex+socket+watch+repair)
Thanks, I grabbed one.
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What pellets where you shooting ?
The JSB Exact Heavy 18.3 gr pellets. I was trying the CPUM 14.3 gr's when it misfired and jammed. I won't be using those in it any more!
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I got one of these kits awhile back, and like it so much, I just ordered another as a back-up!
https://www.amazon.com/JACKLY-Professional-Screwdriver-Extension-Maintenance/dp/B005JRTAYG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1544105053&sr=8-3&keywords=jackly+precision+screwdriver+set (https://www.amazon.com/JACKLY-Professional-Screwdriver-Extension-Maintenance/dp/B005JRTAYG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1544105053&sr=8-3&keywords=jackly+precision+screwdriver+set)
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What pellets where you shooting ?
The JSB Exact Heavy 18.3 gr pellets. I was trying the CPUM 14.3 gr's when it misfired and jammed. I won't be using those in it any more!
Mr Lee is already designing Magazines for the shorter pellets.
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What pellets where you shooting ?
The JSB Exact Heavy 18.3 gr pellets. I was trying the CPUM 14.3 gr's when it misfired and jammed. I won't be using those in it any more!
Mr Lee is already designing Magazines for the shorter pellets.
When I got the .25 MAX ( that was the Sami Full Auto ) .....I got one as soon as they where produced and the magazines had some problems, Mr Lee at Evanix listened and immediately came out with Gen II Mags for those guns that worked perfectly,
That's what I like about those guys, they listen to the end user and they act.
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I got one of these kits awhile back, and like it so much, I just ordered another as a back-up!
https://www.amazon.com/JACKLY-Professional-Screwdriver-Extension-Maintenance/dp/B005JRTAYG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1544105053&sr=8-3&keywords=jackly+precision+screwdriver+set (https://www.amazon.com/JACKLY-Professional-Screwdriver-Extension-Maintenance/dp/B005JRTAYG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1544105053&sr=8-3&keywords=jackly+precision+screwdriver+set)
I have this one and really like it also
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Still tinkering, but getting better. Here's 2, 10 shot groups at 20 yards. Sorry you can't read the chrono. I'll do better next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ABZcdKseEo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ABZcdKseEo)
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Haha, the gun makes you shoot faster then you should right ? :) :) .....super fun indeed.
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Cool! Looked like it was grouping real well. Post those numbers.
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So, what were are those numbers we can’t see?
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Still tinkering, but getting better. Here's 2, 10 shot groups at 20 yards. Sorry you can't read the chrono. I'll do better next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ABZcdKseEo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ABZcdKseEo)
Thats really cool can you tell me about your set up?
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Are you resting the Air tube on the rifle rest ?
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Using a magneto speed v3 chrono and a Bulls eye camera system with a ZTE tablet. I've got a chit load of shot strings, all mixed up. Tried JSB 18gn, 15gn, monsters 25gn, H&N piledrivers (lousy), H&N field target trophy 14gn (jammed), Crossman HP 14gn (jammed), H&N sniper magnums 17gn (like these). I'm more concerned at the moment about function, rather than velocity. Had a few jams, one jam and spurt all the air out. A couple of times having to pull the trigger group and clean out the lead pieces. It's getting better. Tried trigger group in front and rear holes. Strange, sometimes in rear holes, can't cock? Sometimes OK? From what I can decern (you know what I mean), it appears Mr Lee is using the rebound of the valve to work the action. Pretty neat idea.
Shot string of JSB's 18gn, trigger in front holes (stock position)
mim 869 max 875 avg 872 s-d 2.0
JSB Monsters 25gn
min 731 max 736 avg 733 s-d 1.7
H&N sniper magnums 17gn trigger in rear holes
mni 947 max 956 avg 950 s-d 3.4
I think these are the correct numbers for the listed pellets. Didn't write them down as I went, just now pulled off chrono. :D
Having fun. Rifle is quiet, but pellets hitting my steel pellet trap making a noise! Neighbor's getting edgy! ;)
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If so, don't. LOL!!!
If all else fails, degass, and check that the air tube is truly screwed tight against the block threads. And that the valve screws are fully tight. Take care not to strip them.
If the tube is not fully tight against the block, the descending pressure can cause it to move slightly, as as the barrel band in on the other end, it will act as a fulcrum/lever and move the orientation of the muzzle ever so slightly as the pressure lowers in the tube. ;)
Knife
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I dont use any SHORT pellets they cause jams I use JSB 18 with no issues and they have shot the best so far. Ive tried a few short pellets but all have caused issues sooner or later BUT I think I found a work around so Ill get back to you on that with after a little testing.
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This is the last target I used. Went through a bunch. Marked ones are either 10 or 20 shots. Wild ones from other pellets that didn't work. Some of the pile drivers didn't even hit the target!
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So what ammo is performing(grouping) the best so far?
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So far I'm liking the H&N sniper magnums, and the JSB 18gn. When I get things more settled in, I will tether to a regulated 2900 psi tank, for more consistent readings. Cwazy SW Florida weather, cold this morning, now this evening, about ready to turn on the AC !!!
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Some of the pile drivers didn't even hit the target!
I've not found anything that shoots those piledrivers worth darn, other than a slingshot!
If so, don't. LOL!!!
If all else fails, degass, and check that the air tube is truly screwed tight against the block threads. And that the valve screws are fully tight. Take care not to strip them.
If the tube is not fully tight against the block, the descending pressure can cause it to move slightly, as as the barrel band in on the other end, it will act as a fulcrum/lever and move the orientation of the muzzle ever so slightly as the pressure lowers in the tube. ;)
Knife
Interesting, I need to check and see if this is causing my POI shift. Although, I can't imagine there would be that much change after just a few shots. Here's a picture of a 6 shot string I did feeding individual JSB 18 gr pellets. This was while I was trying some things Travis suggested to see if we could isolate the cause. The first 3 shots are the top 3, the next 3 are the bottom 3. All shot at 35 yards from a rest. Something is shifting somewhere, I'm just not sure what or how...
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Mine while shooting light pullets, (Rainstorm at 43 grs.) will put three on top of each other then shift up and left and put three more into a nice group. GRRRR!!!
I have the tube indexed so that the fill probe can be used tethered from the right. No doubt his is an issue, as the tube has to be unscrewed when umpty slightly counter clockwise to accomplish this. Will change and see what she does.
It's less than a quarter turn, but is likely the cause.
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Some of the pile drivers didn't even hit the target!
I've not found anything that shoots those piledrivers worth darn, other than a slingshot!
If so, don't. LOL!!!
If all else fails, degass, and check that the air tube is truly screwed tight against the block threads. And that the valve screws are fully tight. Take care not to strip them.
If the tube is not fully tight against the block, the descending pressure can cause it to move slightly, as as the barrel band in on the other end, it will act as a fulcrum/lever and move the orientation of the muzzle ever so slightly as the pressure lowers in the tube. ;)
Knife
Interesting, I need to check and see if this is causing my POI shift. Although, I can't imagine there would be that much change after just a few shots. Here's a picture of a 6 shot string I did feeding individual JSB 18 gr pellets. This was while I was trying some things Travis suggested to see if we could isolate the cause. The first 3 shots are the top 3, the next 3 are the bottom 3. All shot at 35 yards from a rest. Something is shifting somewhere, I'm just not sure what or how...
Interesting both groups are same size and directly on same plane I would do it again with the 18 JSB and crono it to see if the fps changes between the two groups and monitor fill pressure.
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Travis, I will give that a try and see what happens. Hopefully, I'll get some time tomorrow, if not it may be weather permitting because we have more strong storms predicted for this weekend!
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Travis, I will give that a try and see what happens. Hopefully, I'll get some time tomorrow, if not it may be weather permitting because we have more strong storms predicted for this weekend!
Snow here and rain all weekend also.
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85, sunny with solid waves here :)
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Some of the pile drivers didn't even hit the target!
I've not found anything that shoots those piledrivers worth darn, other than a slingshot!
If so, don't. LOL!!!
If all else fails, degass, and check that the air tube is truly screwed tight against the block threads. And that the valve screws are fully tight. Take care not to strip them.
If the tube is not fully tight against the block, the descending pressure can cause it to move slightly, as as the barrel band in on the other end, it will act as a fulcrum/lever and move the orientation of the muzzle ever so slightly as the pressure lowers in the tube. ;)
Knife
Interesting, I need to check and see if this is causing my POI shift. Although, I can't imagine there would be that much change after just a few shots. Here's a picture of a 6 shot string I did feeding individual JSB 18 gr pellets. This was while I was trying some things Travis suggested to see if we could isolate the cause. The first 3 shots are the top 3, the next 3 are the bottom 3. All shot at 35 yards from a rest. Something is shifting somewhere, I'm just not sure what or how...
Ive had that happen before with a hpa QB 177. I was always losing a pellet down by the hammer with my fat fingers. Thought i had it removed...but alls it took was a flake of pellet skirt to make my groups jump around and pull my hair out. I agree...a few rounds down range over the chrony may tell the story.
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85, sunny with solid waves here :)
Go ahead, rub it in! ;D
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Yeah Manny, double GRRRRR!
Texas is suppose to be nice this time of year. Not this year. Lousy weather!
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Since I have to wait for pellets
I'm taking the gun apart do do some cleaning and fresh lubing
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It's very well made, and easy to work on ain't it! ;)
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It's very well made, and easy to work on ain't it! ;)
Indeed,
I'm surprised to see how simple the design is for a Semi-Auto, not much to go wrong I think this gun might be a real winner, Evanix guns are easy to work on, Rainstorms are even easier than this one.
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So, for those of you who have already delved into the inner workings of this air rifle, what does this little screw on the top left rear of the breech do?
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I have no idea :) , I didn't need to remove the lever so I never touched these two
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I have no idea :) , I didn't need to remove the lever so I never touched these two
I wonder if it's just there to prevent the pivot screw for the cocking lever from backing out. Not that the lever gets used much!
I discovered I have a bad magazine that will probably need to be sent back for a replacement. It won't cycle and the cylinder seems to be thicker than the other magazine, it fits very tight inside the housing and does not move freely.
I'm also still chasing an accuracy issue. Everyone is reporting how great the JSB 18.13 grain pellets are and the laser accuracy they are getting from their rifles. Mine is great for the first 3 shots and then they are all over the place. It makes no sense, everything is good and tight. It's driving me crazy because I know these rifles should group tighter than this one is...
This is a 10 shot string at 35 yards using JSB 18.13 grain pellets.
These are the chrony numbers starting at a fill to 3000 psi:
1. 927
2. 921
3. 921
4. 917
5. 915
6. 917
7. 914
8. 918
9. 919
10. 909
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I have no idea :) , I didn't need to remove the lever so I never touched these two
I wonder if it's just there to prevent the pivot screw for the cocking lever from backing out. Not that the lever gets used much!
I discovered I have a bad magazine that will probably need to be sent back for a replacement. It won't cycle and the cylinder seems to be thicker than the other magazine, it fits very tight inside the housing and does not move freely.
I'm also still chasing an accuracy issue. Everyone is reporting how great the JSB 18.13 grain pellets are and the laser accuracy they are getting from their rifles. Mine is great for the first 3 shots and then they are all over the place. It makes no sense, everything is good and tight. It's driving me crazy because I know these rifles should group tighter than this one is...
This is a 10 shot string at 35 yards using JSB 18.13 grain pellets.
These are the chrony numbers starting at a fill to 3000 psi:
1. 927
2. 921
3. 921
4. 917
5. 915
6. 917
7. 914
8. 918
9. 919
10. 909
For that one mag, take the plate off, take the single screw out on the drum, wiggle the drum until it clicks in place, I red loctite that one screw when I put it back.
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Thanks Manny, I'll give that a try and see if it helps.
UPDATE: That worked, the cylinder snapped in place and it's cycling just fine now! Thank You!
Now, if you could help me diagnose my accuracy issue, that would be awesome!
Here's a 10 shot string with the repaired magazine:
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Now, that is real bad something definitely wrong there,
I'm getting rugged holes at 30 even with the cheap Benjamin pellets
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Now, that is real bad something definitely wrong there,
I'm getting rugged holes at 30 even with the cheap Benjamin pellets
I’m afraid to use the Benjamin or Crosman pellets after it ate 2 pellets and jammed! I think I’ll stick with the longer, heavier pellets until Travis releases the fix! I know, where’s my sense of adventure?
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Now, that is real bad something definitely wrong there,
I'm getting rugged holes at 30 even with the cheap Benjamin pellets
I’m afraid to use the Benjamin or Crosman pellets after it ate 2 pellets and jammed! I think I’ll stick with the longer, heavier pellets until Travis releases the fix! I know, where’s my sense of adventure?
Mr Lee is already developing a mag for shorter pellets, I should have one to test shortly.
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Have you tried H&N pellets ?
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Have you tried H&N pellets ?
I tried the H&N Sniper mags, they shot about the same as the JSB 18.13 grains. I have some Barracuda Hunters and Barracuda Match coming to try in it.
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Now, that is real bad something definitely wrong there,
I'm getting rugged holes at 30 even with the cheap Benjamin pellets
I’m afraid to use the Benjamin or Crosman pellets after it ate 2 pellets and jammed! I think I’ll stick with the longer, heavier pellets until Travis releases the fix! I know, where’s my sense of adventure?
Mr Lee is already developing a mag for shorter pellets, I should have one to test shortly.
That’s good to know. I wonder if they will offer them to those of us who pre-ordered at a discount? It would be nice to have the option of reliably shoot the cheaper pellets, especially with a semi-auto!!!
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Paul, you may have some lead shavings in there, causing the weird shot pattern. The little screws on top I think are just to hold on the cocking arm. If/when they come out with a different magazine, I'm sure Travis will take care of us, even if it's a discounted price. You know Hatsan had a problem with their Flash when it first came out, then had an upgraded magazine that solved their problems. This is a brand new design, and there will be changes in the future I'm sure.
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Cooter, I cleaned everything up real good after it ate a couple Crosman pellets. It's cycling just fine, it's only the accuracy that's giving me issue. The barrel's been cleaned to the point patches were coming out clean, so I don't think the issue has to do with a dirty barrel or lead shaving in the mechanism.
I have tried 3 different scopes and all 3 give the same funky results. I have been over all the screws, nuts and bolts to ensure they are all good and tight, so I don't believe it has to do with anything being loose either.
At this point, It's just a matter of trying to eliminate all the variables and try to pin point what is causing the erratic grouping. I have a variety of different heavier pellets coming, so I'll be able to try some different pellets to see if that makes a difference. I have also sent Travis a video and chrony string that corresponds with the video in the hopes he may have some thoughts on a cure. I'm sure we will figure it out, it's just a matter of trial and error... I'm not too concerned, I'm confident JSAR will figure it out and all will be good!
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Have you tried H&N pellets ?
Here are 2 five shot strings, one with H&N Sniper mags and the other with Polymag Shorts. The first shot with the Sniper Mags didn't even hit the reactive target!
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I'm calling, ...a bad barrel on your rifle Paul
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I'm calling, ...a bad barrel on your rifle Paul
Quite possible! Ill get one out to him next week no worries.
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I'm calling, ...a bad barrel on your rifle Paul
You may be right, Manny. Whatever's going on is outside my level of expertise, so I have sent an e-mail to Jacob at JSAR requesting their assistance. I may have to send it in and have the experts take a look at it. I'll know more when I hear back from them.
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I'm calling, ...a bad barrel on your rifle Paul
Quite possible! Ill get one out to him next week no worries.
And, we have an answer!!! LOL!
Thanks Travis! You must have been typing the same time I was!
Did you get the video I sent you?
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Knife, suggested that if you're resting the air tube on a stand, that it may cause erratic groups. Mine is doing fine though. It likes the JSB 18gn and the K&N sniper magnums. Blew a lizard in half the other day, that wandered onto my target, FIRST shot! 20 yards. I'll get some more video in a day or two. absolutely whisper quiet with a moderator on it. :D
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Knife, suggested that if you're resting the air tube on a stand, that it may cause erratic groups. Mine is doing fine though. It likes the JSB 18gn and the K&N sniper magnums. Blew a lizard in half the other day, that wandered onto my target, FIRST shot! 20 yards. I'll get some more video in a day or two. absolutely whisper quiet with a moderator on it. :D
Yea, I saw his post about resting it on the air tube. The rest I use fits under the forearm and just behind the pistol grip, so only the stock is touching the rest. I don't think that's the issue with my rifle. Hopefully, it is just a bad barrel and the one Travis sends will resolve the issue. I guess things like this can happen to any air gun manufacturer! I'm just thankful for the support we have here in the Sates with Travis and crew at JSAR!
On a slightly different subject, anyone else notice that the cone baffles from a Marauder fit nicely in the free space between the end of the barrel and the end of the shroud? Three of them fit nicely in that space when you remove the cone shaped piece from the end cap and add a spring next to the air stripper at the end of the barrel! It doesn't quiet it a lot, but it does tone it down a little...
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Can't wait for when Travis finds springs,
I will buy one for taking it back to stock power and hopefully one to power it up, but primary I would like this gun to stay with the Lover power tune, and then get the bigger springs in there needed,
so I'm really looking forward to the new Magazines to be able to shoot the 14gr pellets
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Who's going to be the first to try one of those dual magazines I've seen. I don't know if they are still available, but that would be something I would want if I had that gun.
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Who's going to be the first to try one of those dual magazines I've seen. I don't know if they are still available, but that would be something I would want if I had that gun.
I saw them on the Airgun Depot website for $69.99. They have a 14% off code right now with free shipping on orders of over $49.00 also. I picked up another spare magazine and 4 tins of different heavy pellets to try in it.
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Who's going to be the first to try one of those dual magazines I've seen. I don't know if they are still available, but that would be something I would want if I had that gun.
I saw them on the Airgun Depot website for $69.99. They have a 14% off code right now with free shipping on orders of over $49.00 also. I picked up another spare magazine and 4 tins of different heavy pellets to try in it.
The Air speed mags are not the same as rainstorm etc mags and if you use them get ready for serious jams.
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Who's going to be the first to try one of those dual magazines I've seen. I don't know if they are still available, but that would be something I would want if I had that gun.
I saw them on the Airgun Depot website for $69.99. They have a 14% off code right now with free shipping on orders of over $49.00 also. I picked up another spare magazine and 4 tins of different heavy pellets to try in it.
The Air speed mags are not the same as rainstorm etc mags and if you use them get ready for serious jams.
Cancel that idea then. Sounded good anyways.
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Who's going to be the first to try one of those dual magazines I've seen. I don't know if they are still available, but that would be something I would want if I had that gun.
I saw them on the Airgun Depot website for $69.99. They have a 14% off code right now with free shipping on orders of over $49.00 also. I picked up another spare magazine and 4 tins of different heavy pellets to try in it.
The Air speed mags are not the same as rainstorm etc mags and if you use them get ready for serious jams.
Guess I’ll be sending that magazine back when it arrives... they sure look the same.
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Anyone heard if walnut stocks for these will be available in the near future ??? The way I see it is these guns deserve to be available with a walnut stock, especially after seeing what others have said about the quality machining that goes into them. . . . There's just something to be said about the allure of a nice walnut stock.
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Who's going to be the first to try one of those dual magazines I've seen. I don't know if they are still available, but that would be something I would want if I had that gun.
I saw them on the Airgun Depot website for $69.99. They have a 14% off code right now with free shipping on orders of over $49.00 also. I picked up another spare magazine and 4 tins of different heavy pellets to try in it.
The Air speed mags are not the same as rainstorm etc mags and if you use them get ready for serious jams.
Guess I’ll be sending that magazine back when it arrives... they sure look the same.
The dual Mag was designed for the old Semi-Full auto,....the design of those mags will not aloud you to get past the probe since the plate goes all around vs the Air Speed mag that has a gap so it can slide past the plate
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Wayne how do you like this one
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Who's going to be the first to try one of those dual magazines I've seen. I don't know if they are still available, but that would be something I would want if I had that gun.
I saw them on the Airgun Depot website for $69.99. They have a 14% off code right now with free shipping on orders of over $49.00 also. I picked up another spare magazine and 4 tins of different heavy pellets to try in it.
The Air speed mags are not the same as rainstorm etc mags and if you use them get ready for serious jams.
Guess I’ll be sending that magazine back when it arrives... they sure look the same.
The dual Mag was designed for the old Semi-Full auto,....the design of those mags will not aloud you to get past the probe since the plate goes all around vs the Air Speed mag that has a gap so it can slide past the plate
I ordered a single mag from AGD with their 14% off code, I guess I'll see if it works or not when it arrives. If not, I'll be sending it back. They only show the back side view, so you can't see if it has the cutout for the bolt probe or not. It said it would work in the Evanix Speed, which I know is different than the Air Speed, but I was hopeful they were the same.
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Paul, did you by chance try removing the shroud from the rifle ? It could be an alignment issue with either the stripper or endcap . Maybe I missed it if you tried that already.
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My first thought was some clipping also. I think he covered that.
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Paul, did you by chance try removing the shroud from the rifle ? It could be an alignment issue with either the stripper or endcap . Maybe I missed it if you tried that already.
I did not remove the shroud completely and then shoot the rifle, however, at Travis’ suggestion, I did remove the end cap to eliminate the possibility of clipping. The groups were actually tighter with the end cap installed, so I believe they eliminated clipping as a problem.
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Man you guys got me thinking about going further in debt. If it was a 30 cal, I would just sell my BWalton BT65 in 30 cal and my samyang 909 in 45 and buy one.
Grrrrrrrrr
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Who's going to be the first to try one of those dual magazines I've seen. I don't know if they are still available, but that would be something I would want if I had that gun.
I saw them on the Airgun Depot website for $69.99. They have a 14% off code right now with free shipping on orders of over $49.00 also. I picked up another spare magazine and 4 tins of different heavy pellets to try in it.
The Air speed mags are not the same as rainstorm etc mags and if you use them get ready for serious jams.
Guess I’ll be sending that magazine back when it arrives... they sure look the same.
The dual Mag was designed for the old Semi-Full auto,....the design of those mags will not aloud you to get past the probe since the plate goes all around vs the Air Speed mag that has a gap so it can slide past the plate
I ordered a single mag from AGD with their 14% off code, I guess I'll see if it works or not when it arrives. If not, I'll be sending it back. They only show the back side view, so you can't see if it has the cutout for the bolt probe or not. It said it would work in the Evanix Speed, which I know is different than the Air Speed, but I was hopeful they were the same.
Well, now that I think about it ....it could work, if you pull the lever all the way back the probe disappears into the action so you could insert even the old mags ( that is if the Magazine well is the same size of the Rainsorm/Speed/Windy city and so on )
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I was thinking the same thing about the older mags. I ordered 2, just to see. If they do fit by pulling the lever all the way back, you would have to do that every time you changed a mag. I'm wondering if a slot can be cut, to allow use with the Air Speed. We'll see. ;)
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If the Magazine well is the same size they should work since they worked on the Gen I semi/full auto guns,......yes you would have to pull the lever back every time to change mags but that wouldn't be so bad.
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Just checked,
....the Air Speed magazine fits in my Rainstorm .25, so the Magazine well is the same size :)
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Cool! here's what I ordered from AGD
https://www.airgundepot.com/evanix-magazine-22-caliber.html#jmui= (https://www.airgundepot.com/evanix-magazine-22-caliber.html#jmui=)
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OK then, following what you guys find out once the mags get there, ...also with the old mags the shorter 14gr pellets stay in place so that would open that option.
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Cool! here's what I ordered from AGD
https://www.airgundepot.com/evanix-magazine-22-caliber.html#jmui= (https://www.airgundepot.com/evanix-magazine-22-caliber.html#jmui=)
Yep, that's the same one I ordered. If it works with the shorter pellets, it would be worth keeping, even if you do have to pull the bolt all the way back to load it.
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Look what came in today :) :)
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From the outside I can't really tell of any differences from the stock mags
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Only testing will tell,...so of we go to shoot some new 14.3gr pellets that just came in
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I can the holes are further down in the drum and no bevels on drum so pellets seat further in other than that I don't know
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Good eye Travis,.....I don't know how Mr Lee does it but he's awesome. this is exactly what happened with the electronic Semis the mags had a few problems and he fixed that pronto, I just shot 100 rounds and zero missfires, jams, full auto, Mr Lee is a genius,.....thanks Evanix for listening and taking prompt action.
So I as said I tested 100 rounds, wasn't really going for accuracy but shooting quite fast,
I was shooting in 20-30 Knots winds coming from my right, hard to tell by the pictures but you can see the palm fronds leaning good to the left
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Also I was trying my .25 LDC.
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So, from 200 BAR to 100 BAR I got 100 shots, 30 some yards, you can see that POI was significantly to the right of POA, could be the LDC a bit but the winds I'm sure played a big part :) :) .... the big hole top left corner was 100 shots from the other day,
....also not much difference if any in vertical over 100 shots.
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So in the end even with cheap pellets, strong side wind and shooting fast I still got some decent groups,
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Next up is to Chrono the gun to see exactly where she is in power, but this is exactly what I was hoping to end up with for plinking and yard control.
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OK, so how did you get new mags from Mr Lee ???? At first I thought you were talking about the mags we have ordered from AGD?
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Look what came in today :) :)
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From the outside I can't really tell of any differences from the stock mags
Looks like the groove the spring sits in is cut deeper also. That probably allows the spring to encroach on the opening more, holding the smaller pellets a bit more securely in the magazine. Mr. Lee sure did get those to you fast! But then again, you are alt closer to him than we are! ;D
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OK, so how did you get new mags from Mr Lee ???? At first I thought you were talking about the mags we have ordered from AGD?
I've been talking guns with Mr Lee for some years now, when I told him the problem with short pellets and mags he told me he was already working on some changes and he would ship me one as soon he had one produced :)
.......Future is bright for this platform
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OK, so how did you get new mags from Mr Lee ???? At first I thought you were talking about the mags we have ordered from AGD?
I've been talking guns with Mr Lee for some years now, when I told him the problem with short pellets and mags he told me he was already working on some changes and he would ship me one as soon he had one produced :)
Well, looking at that list of air guns in your signature, I can see why Mr. Lee is interested in what you have to say! That many must qualify you as a major stock holder!
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OK, so how did you get new mags from Mr Lee ???? At first I thought you were talking about the mags we have ordered from AGD?
I've been talking guns with Mr Lee for some years now, when I told him the problem with short pellets and mags he told me he was already working on some changes and he would ship me one as soon he had one produced :)
Well, looking at that list of air guns in your signature, I can see why Mr. Lee is interested in what you have to say! That many must qualify you as a major stock holder!
And I sold more Evanix then I have in my signature :) ....I think I was one of the very first to buy the Rainstorm I .22, also the MAX .25 Semi/Full auto and the .357 Bullpup, ....so yes I had my hands on a lot of Evanix guns :) :)
Evanix sold :
Rainstorm I .22
AR6 pistol .22
AR6 pistol .22
Blizzard .22
Rainstorm I .22
AR6 Bullpup .22
Rainstorm II .22
Rainstorm II .357
MAX .25
Rainstorm II .357
Max-ML .45
I think I remember them all, maybe ? :)
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Will be making a video showing the Gen II mags function in a couple hours,......still 30+ Knots winds so any accuracy video is out the question :(
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Ok I made a mistake and need to fix my video and let everyone know the 177/22/25 barrels are all choked!!! I was working with the 30 and it is not choked and i made a mistake and assumed they all were so Please let everyone know. Sorry guys my bad!!!
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OK, here's the video of the GEN II Mags
https://youtu.be/NZ3m8rYOD6Q?t=5
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Manny that's pretty cool that the GenII mags work.
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Fantastic! Now how do we get some?
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Fantastic! Now how do we get some?
Travis should start getting them in soon I guess.
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Fantastic! Now how do we get some?
Travis should start getting them in soon I guess.
These are prototype mags I have no idea when Mr Lee will release them. I havent had time to test the ones he sent me but by Mannys testing it looks good. Just dont shoot short pellets for now and you wont have any issues I shoot the 18 jsb and never had a miss fire. 25 cal has no issues.
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Just shot an other 200 rounds, the only way you'll get missfires if you are lazy and don't seat the pellets all the way, otherwise the rifle is butter.
I have now put almost 1000 pellets through this rifle and what a great system Mr Lee at EVANIX came out with,
Love my detuned gun where I get one shot per BAR,....next up is Chrono time because I'm really curious to know the exact FPE, I also have some 18gr pellets coming in so I'll chrono both the 14 and the 18gr
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Looking forward to getting a couple of the short mags once they are available! Thanks Manny!
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Shot every pellet i could find with short mags and had no mis fires. Way to go Mr Lee.
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Shot every pellet i could find with short mags and had no mis fires. Way to go Mr Lee.
Great news! It's awesome that Mr Lee is so responsive to the customer's needs!
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Indeed, and it's not the first time,.....love how Evanix really listens and if they can they act fast.
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Shot every pellet i could find with short mags and had no mis fires. Way to go Mr Lee.
Yep, Mr Lee nailed it.
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My wallets getting nervous you enablers. :D
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I too shot over 100 rounds through the new magazines and used all the shorter pellets that previously caused cycling issues.
Any and all cycling issues were corrected by the introduction of the redesigned magazines.
Mr. Lee does it again and lightning fast as well!
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Does anyone know if Evanix will offer us an opportunity to exchange our current magazines for this new design?
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Does anyone know if Evanix will offer us an opportunity to exchange our current magazines for this new design?
No this is not and option though the new magazine will be available early next year.
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Does this new mag handle the longer pellets as the original did? With the same settings? Regards, Tom
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Does this new mag handle the longer pellets as the original did? With the same settings? Regards, Tom
Yes
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Am just been shooting the heck out of this gun ( easy with a detune like I have when I get 100 shots per 100 BAR :) ) and boy ho boy, I'm starting to be a believer of this platform,......keeps on ticking.
No chance yet for serious accuracy testing nor Chrono testing.
So one more video
https://youtu.be/5FpEleAjTHs
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Ive detuned mine as well and got a few fills threw it and have been happy with the shot count. Seems better accuracy wise also as it's not flinging them so fast. Will need to chrony also but life's been something else lately is all I'll say so no time. But it will be an excellent 50yd pigeon and squirrel gun. Anything farther will go to the WARP
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According to Evanix, they are working on a power adjuster that you can add to the Air Speed. No word on when it will be released though... It will be nice to be able to adjust the power as needed.
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You don't have to shoot a chambered pellet when you're done with a hunt either, now that is really nice, I don't like just wasting a pellet.
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The one problem I have with this gun is that since it's so similar to all my other guns I forget once I'm done shooting that the gun it's still hot,......I really have to get in the frame of mind that I need to decock it when shooting is over.
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The one problem I have with this gun is that since it's so similar to all my other guns I forget once I'm done shooting that the gun it's still hot,......I really have to get in the frame of mind that I need to decock it when shooting is over.
mine is trying to not reach up and cock it between shots.
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The one problem I have with this gun is that since it's so similar to all my other guns I forget once I'm done shooting that the gun it's still hot,......I really have to get in the frame of mind that I need to decock it when shooting is over.
mine is trying to not reach up and cock it between shots.
:) :) Yeah, that one in the beginning and getting used to the fact that you don't need to work the lever to change mags,.....just a clever and solid platform.
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The one problem I have with this gun is that since it's so similar to all my other guns I forget once I'm done shooting that the gun it's still hot,......I really have to get in the frame of mind that I need to decock it when shooting is over.
mine is trying to not reach up and cock it between shots.
:) :) Yeah, that one in the beginning and getting used to the fact that you don't need to work the lever to change mags,.....just a clever and solid platform.
Ow ya that one gets me ALL the time LOL
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You don't have to shoot a chambered pellet when you're done with a hunt either, now that is really nice, I don't like just wasting a pellet.
Yep, you cock the gun put the mag in and you ready to shoot,.....you go hunting and don't get the chance to take a shot you can take the mag out and de-cock the gun, no pellet nor air wasted.
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mine is trying to not reach up and cock it between shots.
My problem is just the opposite. After shooting the Air Speed and then shooting another rifle, I just keep squeezing the trigger and wonder why nothing happens! :o
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mine is trying to not reach up and cock it between shots.
My problem is just the opposite. After shooting the Air Speed and then shooting another rifle, I just keep squeezing the trigger and wonder why nothing happens! :o
Hahahaha
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I have 9 tins of H&N sniper magnums, and 2 of the older Evanix mags coming tomorrow via the big brown truck. Something to play with! Supposed to start raining tomorrow, but I don't care, I can sit here in my living room, and shoot out the window at my bullet trap all day long! My Carette compressor is acting up, don't want to get passed 4000 psi, but I have 2 Yung Hengs on standby! ;) ;) ;)
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I have 9 tins of H&N sniper magnums, and 2 of the older Evanix mags coming tomorrow via the big brown truck. Something to play with! Supposed to start raining tomorrow, but I don't care, I can sit here in my living room, and shoot out the window at my bullet trap all day long! My Carette compressor is acting up, don't want to get passed 4000 psi, but I have 2 Yung Hengs on standby! ;) ;) ;)
I got my old style magazine today. Unfortunately my barrel is on the big brown truck headed to Oregon, so I couldn’t test it. It doesn’t have the cut out the Air Speed mags have, but it does fit if you pull the bolt all the way back when you insert it.
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I have 9 tins of H&N sniper magnums, and 2 of the older Evanix mags coming tomorrow via the big brown truck. Something to play with! Supposed to start raining tomorrow, but I don't care, I can sit here in my living room, and shoot out the window at my bullet trap all day long! My Carette compressor is acting up, don't want to get passed 4000 psi, but I have 2 Yung Hengs on standby! ;) ;) ;)
I got my old style magazine today. Unfortunately my barrel is on the big brown truck headed to Oregon, so I couldn’t test it. It doesn’t have the cut out the Air Speed mags have, but it does fit if you pull the bolt all the way back when you insert it.
Don't know for sure, but I seem to remember that when I put the trigger block in the rear position when you cock the gun the probe actually stays hidden in the action,...again not 100% sure my memory is right
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I have 9 tins of H&N sniper magnums, and 2 of the older Evanix mags coming tomorrow via the big brown truck. Something to play with! Supposed to start raining tomorrow, but I don't care, I can sit here in my living room, and shoot out the window at my bullet trap all day long! My Carette compressor is acting up, don't want to get passed 4000 psi, but I have 2 Yung Hengs on standby! ;) ;) ;)
I got my old style magazine today. Unfortunately my barrel is on the big brown truck headed to Oregon, so I couldn’t test it. It doesn’t have the cut out the Air Speed mags have, but it does fit if you pull the bolt all the way back when you insert it.
Don't know for sure, but I seem to remember that when I put the trigger block in the rear position when you cock the gun the probe actually stays hidden in the action,...again not 100% sure my memory is right
That is correct.
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Cool, then with the trigger block in the rear position in theory you guys should be able to use the old mags and insert them without the need to pull on the lever,.......now hopefully they cycle in this platform, only testing will tell and I'm curious to know now :)
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Brown truck supposed to be on the way...TODAY! ;)
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The Pup should really enhance the Semi action.
https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/383080585763151/?epa=SEARCH_BOX (https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/383080585763151/?epa=SEARCH_BOX)
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-/+ 1.300 pellets down the pipe,
if I use the right pellet on the right mag and if I seat the pellets right the gun is flawless,....really impressed by this action, super fun and reliable so I'm looking forward to see how it stands up to the test of time but so far, buy it sure broke in nicely and does exactly what it's supposed to do,......sure see a lot of smiles in the faces of people shooting this platform :)
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I have 9 tins of H&N sniper magnums, and 2 of the older Evanix mags coming tomorrow via the big brown truck. Something to play with! Supposed to start raining tomorrow, but I don't care, I can sit here in my living room, and shoot out the window at my bullet trap all day long! My Carette compressor is acting up, don't want to get passed 4000 psi, but I have 2 Yung Hengs on standby! ;) ;) ;)
I got my old style magazine today. Unfortunately my barrel is on the big brown truck headed to Oregon, so I couldn’t test it. It doesn’t have the cut out the Air Speed mags have, but it does fit if you pull the bolt all the way back when you insert it.
Don't know for sure, but I seem to remember that when I put the trigger block in the rear position when you cock the gun the probe actually stays hidden in the action,...again not 100% sure my memory is right
That is correct.
Good to know, I’ll have to give that a try once I have it all back together again. Thanks!
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The Pup should really enhance the Semi action.
Video is unavailable. Can you fix the link?
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The Pup should really enhance the Semi action.
Video is unavailable. Can you fix the link?
Just click on "watch on facebook" line
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Sorry ya-all, but I'm done with my Air Speed. Tried the Speed/Conquest mags, jammed on second shot, every time, even with JSB 18gn. Replaced the front cover with a cover from the stock Air Speed, shot OK for a mag, then jammed, went the full auto thing, emptied all the air. Brought it in, tore it apart for about the 10th time, blew it out with compressed air, cleaned out the lead particles from the jams. Put it back together, took it out to run the stock mags through, point of aim was all over the place, with JSB 18gn, same problem as Paul had. Then on 3rd mag, jammed, farted and quit. Probably some debris in the probe area, so I gotta take the scope off and remove the set screw that holds the pin in place for the probe, take everything out, re-clean, and re assemble. This rifle is WAY to finicky for me. I took out my Hatsan Bullmaster, and ran 4 magazines through it, each with a different pellet, even the cheap Discovery's, JSB 15gn, H&N rabbit magnum power 25gn, and the old faithful Crosman hollow point's 14gn. Not a single jam, and very accurate too. Just ordered a Hatsan Barrage from Pyramyd, $899 with free bipod and scope, and free shipping. Air Speed for sale, will probably have to list it "as is". :(
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Sorry ya-all, but I'm done with my Air Speed. Tried the Speed/Conquest mags, jammed on second shot, every time, even with JSB 18gn. Replaced the front cover with a cover from the stock Air Speed, shot OK for a mag, then jammed, went the full auto thing, emptied all the air. Brought it in, tore it apart for about the 10th time, blew it out with compressed air, cleaned out the lead particles from the jams. Put it back together, took it out to run the stock mags through, point of aim was all over the place, with JSB 18gn, same problem as Paul had. Then on 3rd mag, jammed, farted and quit. Probably some debris in the probe area, so I gotta take the scope off and remove the set screw that holds the pin in place for the probe, take everything out, re-clean, and re assemble. This rifle is WAY to finicky for me. I took out my Hatsan Bullmaster, and ran 4 magazines through it, each with a different pellet, even the cheap Discovery's, JSB 15gn, H&N rabbit magnum power 25gn, and the old faithful Crosman hollow point's 14gn. Not a single jam, and very accurate too. Just ordered a Hatsan Barrage from Pyramyd, $899 with free bipod and scope, and free shipping. Air Speed for sale, will probably have to list it "as is". :(
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Send it to me let me go threw it Im sure its something simple.
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Thanks for the offer Travis, but if it won't shoot anything I want to throw at it, I ain't interested in it. I'll shove it in the back of my gun locker, and watch and see if the bugs get worked out. Meanwhile I'll sell it for $500 any takers?
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Thanks for the offer Travis, but if it won't shoot anything I want to throw at it, I ain't interested in it. I'll shove it in the back of my gun locker, and watch and see if the bugs get worked out. Meanwhile I'll sell it for $500 any takers?
Ill contact you by PM Im certain 100% I can make it shoot anything you push threw it.
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Hmm $500.00 ???
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+ Whatever shipping is to your zip code. Just tore it completely down, cleaned thoroughly, re assembled. Shot 2 mags of JSB 18gn no problem. Third mad jammed half way through, pulled mag, shot again, full auto then hiss as last of air went out. I'm done. It's back in the original box ready to ship. I don't want it anymore.
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Wander what's going on with that rifle, only time mine miss fires is if I did't seat the pellets right in the mag.
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+ Whatever shipping is to your zip code. Just tore it completely down, cleaned thoroughly, re assembled. Shot 2 mags of JSB 18gn no problem. Third mad jammed half way through, pulled mag, shot again, full auto then hiss as last of air went out. I'm done. It's back in the original box ready to ship. I don't want it anymore.
I have a simple way to determine the issue. 1. does it function correctly when filled up with air and with no magazine or pellets rapid dry firing? If so its a magazine issue 2. Does it not function properly doing first test? It has debris somewhere in the chassis 3. Does it miss-fire randomly during shooting outdoors in cold weather? If so its still to tight and need break in. 4.I found it will go full auto if the barrel oring is missing or its shooting in very cold conditions before break in. Hope this helps. But to just give up because you dont understand the problem is silly when i can fix it free or at least tell you what caused the issue. JMHO
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Is it jamming with the Air Speed magazine or the Rainstorm magazines you got from PA? I’ll probably return the Rainstorm Mag I got when I get back home. After hearing what happened with your rifle, I don’t even want to try it. I’ll wait till the new magazines are available and grab a couple of those so I can shoot the shorter pellets.
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Is it jamming with the Air Speed magazine or the Rainstorm magazines you got from PA? I’ll probably return the Rainstorm Mag I got when I get back home. After hearing what happened with your rifle, I don’t even want to try it. I’ll wait till the new magazines are available and grab a couple of those so I can shoot the shorter pellets.
I told EVERYONE not to try the RS mags it will cause jams and the jams will throw material down into gun I cant be more clear DONT USE THEM. USE the mags that came with it and no short pellets in them till new mags come out.
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Is it jamming with the Air Speed magazine or the Rainstorm magazines you got from PA? I’ll probably return the Rainstorm Mag I got when I get back home. After hearing what happened with your rifle, I don’t even want to try it. I’ll wait till the new magazines are available and grab a couple of those so I can shoot the shorter pellets.
I told EVERYONE not to try the RS mags it will cause jams and the jams will throw material down into gun I cant be more clear DONT USE THEM. USE the mags that came with it and no short pellets in them till new mags come out.
Read you! LOUD AND CLEAR!!! LOL! That’s why it’s going back to AGD! I’ll use the long pellets till the new mags are available. By sounds of things, they are working well with every pellet you put in them.
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Trading in the Evanix for a Hatsan....? Hmm... and here I will be listing my Bullmaster for sale cheap when I get motivated enough to take a pic of it..haha.
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I was looking at the probe area I think I can make a plug just big enough so the probe cane come threw but no material can get into hammer area pretty easy. Ill try it tomorrow and see if it works if so Ill share it with Mr Lee
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Well, it's back to shooting the JSB 18gn and the H&N Sniper Magnums no problem. The Rainstorm mags do not work, I'm not sure why, unless it's because the cutaway is on the opposite side. You'd have to see one to know what I'm talking about. Everything else lines up the same as the stock mags. I'd love to see one of the "updated" mags, to see what changes were made. I suspect the retaining spring is closer in, or larger in diameter, to help hold the short pellets. Just can't get it into my head what's going on when they jam. Kinda like it fires, then the next pellet in line jumps out backwards, and jams things up, and or falls through and winds up in front of the hammer, and gets pounded up against the valve. Then you need to either take the gun apart and remove the air tube w/valve to remove the crushed pieces, or get up in there with a small probe, and dig them out. The crushed pieces will not allow the hammer AND the pellet probe to close all the way. The hammer and the probe are connected and work in unison with each other. ::)
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I was looking at the probe area I think I can make a plug just big enough so the probe cane come threw but no material can get into hammer area pretty easy. Ill try it tomorrow and see if it works if so Ill share it with Mr Lee
That would be an awesome upgrade! They need to put you on the Evanix payroll! LOL!
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Well, it's back to shooting the JSB 18gn and the H&N Sniper Magnums no problem. The Rainstorm mags do not work, I'm not sure why, unless it's because the cutaway is on the opposite side. You'd have to see one to know what I'm talking about. Everything else lines up the same as the stock mags. I'd love to see one of the "updated" mags, to see what changes were made. I suspect the retaining spring is closer in, or larger in diameter, to help hold the short pellets. Just can't get it into my head what's going on when they jam. Kinda like it fires, then the next pellet in line jumps out backwards, and jams things up, and or falls through and winds up in front of the hammer, and gets pounded up against the valve. Then you need to either take the gun apart and remove the air tube w/valve to remove the crushed pieces, or get up in there with a small probe, and dig them out. The crushed pieces will not allow the hammer AND the pellet probe to close all the way. The hammer and the probe are connected and work in unison with each other. ::)
So the gun doesn't work with the wrong mags. Well, Imagine that. Never heard of such. LOL
Never owned a gun, PB or Ag that would work with the wrong mags. Never owned a gun that would shoot well with anything you threw at it well either.
I've owned just about any firearm you can imagine, and many, many ag's. I must be unlucky to have guns that prefer a particular projectile or mag.
Only exceptions I can think of is my Double O/U's and side by sides. Nothing else.
A shame I won't have 500 bucks until the week of Christmas. I would sure be in on it! ;) 8)
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Well, I expect some flaming. However, I have several PCP's that I can load the magazines with a different pellet weight, length, make, side by side, and shoot the whole mag with no jams. Just sayin. If you'd like to see, I'll make a video of me loading up my Bullmaster mag with a mixture of JSB's, 18gn 15gn, Crosman, Discovery, H&N's etc, and will fire the whole mag, no problems. ;)
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Steve, I suspect the new redesigned magazine will be able shoot just about anything. Well just have to wait and see, or, Manny, Travis or Hajimoto could load one the beta mags and perform a similar test for us.
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Steve, I suspect the new redesigned magazine will be able shoot just about anything. Well just have to wait and see, or, Manny, Travis or Hajimoto could load one the beta mags and perform a similar test for us.
Paul read back threw the post Manny and I have both used the new mags with 100% success with every ammo we put it threw Hajimoto told me the same BUT for now use only long ammo and factory SPEED mags or you will have problems. I only use the 18 grain ammo and it works flawless but if you introduce other mags and short ammo even the JSB will have issues due to debris so all I can say is follow the recommendations of EVANIX and you will be just fine.
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Steve, I suspect the new redesigned magazine will be able shoot just about anything. Well just have to wait and see, or, Manny, Travis or Hajimoto could load one the beta mags and perform a similar test for us.
Paul read back threw the post Manny and I have both used the new mags with 100% success with every ammo we put it threw Hajimoto told me the same BUT for now use only long ammo and factory SPEED mags or you will have problems. I only use the 18 grain ammo and it works flawless but if you introduce other mags and short ammo even the JSB will have issues due to debris so all I can say is follow the recommendations of EVANIX and you will be just fine.
LOL! Thanks Travis! There won’t be any pellets going through it till I get the barrel back from you! I saw where you guys had zero problems with the new magazines. I was just suggesting a test like Steve had mentioned with a mix of pellets in the same magazine. I’m sure it will work if any pellet is working, but to demonstrate that it does, it would be interesting to see.
I’m definitely looking forward to the new mags and whatever you figure out as a plug to prevent an inadvertent jam! Considering we got the first run, I’d say they are pretty good out of the box, but they can only get better!
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Steve, I suspect the new redesigned magazine will be able shoot just about anything. Well just have to wait and see, or, Manny, Travis or Hajimoto could load one the beta mags and perform a similar test for us.
Paul read back threw the post Manny and I have both used the new mags with 100% success with every ammo we put it threw Hajimoto told me the same BUT for now use only long ammo and factory SPEED mags or you will have problems. I only use the 18 grain ammo and it works flawless but if you introduce other mags and short ammo even the JSB will have issues due to debris so all I can say is follow the recommendations of EVANIX and you will be just fine.
LOL! Thanks Travis! There won’t be any pellets going through it till I get the barrel back from you! I saw where you guys had zero problems with the new magazines. I was just suggesting a test like Steve had mentioned with a mix of pellets in the same magazine. I’m sure it will work if any pellet is working, but to demonstrate that it does, it would be interesting to see.
I’m definitely looking forward to the new mags and whatever you figure out as a plug to prevent an inadvertent jam! Considering we got the first run, I’d say they are pretty good out of the box, but they can only get better!
I agree and getting to know a new platform is half the battle. Me I just use it like Mr lee of Evanix recommends. I have a new sideshot camera mount I should take some slow mo action using a variety of pellets that would be interesting and fun, now if i could get the weather to co-operate.
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I have some H&N Baracuda hunters and JSB 18gr coming in on monday, will load a magazine with them 2 and Crosman 14gr and make a video.
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I have some H&N Baracuda hunters and JSB 18gr coming in on monday, will load a magazine with them 2 and Crosman 14gr and make a video.
There you go! That’s what I’m talking about! Long and short pellets in the same Mag should be a great test!
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Out of curiosity, what do you all see different in the new mags? Wondering what the solution was?
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Out of curiosity, what do you all see different in the new mags? Wondering what the solution was?
Steve there is no champers in mag so the pellets sit in deeper also the holes in the mag have been moved also and it appears the sping sets deeper so I think its a multiple remedy and thank you Mr lee for quickly getting on this as I know a lot of people will want to de tune and shoot lighter ammo and On that note I have been using the shorter jsb 15 grain from the start I just push them way down inside mag but its probably still not a good idea there is a lot of vibration in the semi auto cycling that throws the pellets rearward where they collide with the mag opening and then fragment.
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Well, I expect some flaming. However, I have several PCP's that I can load the magazines with a different pellet weight, length, make, side by side, and shoot the whole mag with no jams. Just sayin. If you'd like to see, I'll make a video of me loading up my Bullmaster mag with a mixture of JSB's, 18gn 15gn, Crosman, Discovery, H&N's etc, and will fire the whole mag, no problems. ;)
They may all function, but do they all shoot well? Just saying.
If I had a 1000 buck gun and it wouldn't shoot those lesser than quality crowmans out of the tin well, No loss what so ever.
I don't put low quality into my guns. Regardless whether they fit or not.
to want to send back a gun only because it doesn't shoot low quality pellets? Man, Sorry, I don't get that at all. There is an old saying. Garbage in, garbage out.
Mr Lee has already starting to address the issue, soooo??? Why not shoot pellets the gun was designed for until the new mag's become available?
Knife
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New mags have a straight chamber, no bevel and the retaining O-ring groove is set slightly forward.
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Well, I expect some flaming. However, I have several PCP's that I can load the magazines with a different pellet weight, length, make, side by side, and shoot the whole mag with no jams. Just sayin. If you'd like to see, I'll make a video of me loading up my Bullmaster mag with a mixture of JSB's, 18gn 15gn, Crosman, Discovery, H&N's etc, and will fire the whole mag, no problems. ;)
Mr Lee has already starting to address the issue, soooo??? Why not shoot pellets the gun was designed for until the new mag's become available?
Knife
Right ?
Also what more can you ask of a company to immediately upon getting feedback from costumers to jump in feet first to tweek things ? ..... can't think of many that do.
Mr Lee is a legend IMO
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Thanks for that info Travis. That's info I was looking for. I'm just the kind of guy that wants to figure out what's going on. If you notice, the retaining spring on the Rainstorm mag is thicker. It fits on the Air Speed mag, and seems to hold pellets even tighter. And yes, I had to try it, and got 5 shots of short pellets before it chunked one out the back. Also notice the cylinder on the Rainstorm is flush, with no champers. I wanted to try one of those cylinders in the Airspeed mag, but the stop mechanism on the back is different. I knew a solution could be in the retaining spring, and maybe set deeper, as I mentioned in one of the emails I sent you. I'll bet Mr Lee has a high speed camera that he watches these actions with, to try to determine just what's happening.
ya know, some people can take their "not running right" car to the shop and say "fix it" and when it's ready, pick it up and ask no questions. I'm the guy that wants to know what they found, and what they did to make it right. ;)
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I will make a video where I load 1 of each of the following in a mag and rapid fire it off while chrono capturing the event:
1 Crosman Premier Hollow Point 14.3gr
1 Crosman Domed 14.3gr
1 Crosman Destroyer 14.3gr
1 H&N Field Target Trophy 14.66gr
1 H&N Baracuda Hunter 18.21gr
1 H&n Baracuda Hunter Extreme 18.52
1 Gamo Hunter 15.42
1 RWS Hobby 11.9
1 Skenco Ultrashock 16.67gr
1 Air Arms Falcon 13.43
Hows that?
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I will make a video where I load 1 of each of the following in a mag and rapid fire it off while chrono capturing the event:
1 Crosman Premier Hollow Point 14.3gr
1 Crosman Domed 14.3gr
1 Crosman Destroyer 14.3gr
1 H&N Field Target Trophy 14.66gr
1 H&N Baracuda Hunter 18.21gr
1 H&n Baracuda Hunter Extreme 18.52
1 Gamo Hunter 15.42
1 RWS Hobby 11.9
1 Skenco Ultrashock 16.67gr
1 Air Arms Falcon 13.43
Hows that?
Now we’re talking!!!! LOL! Talk about a test of various pellets! Thanks Haji!
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Good deal Haji. It will be interesting, and maybe a close up or two of the new improved mags! ;)
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I'm sorry... still dont understand the 'need' to fire a ton of different pellets through the gun.
I know that my Speed is accurate with JSB 18gr. I know that it's powerful and reliable. So ok... what more do I need/want?
If it works... treat it like a sore peter and dont screw with it.
I can see the allure to gaining a few more shots and detuning, using lighter pellets, and I plan to do that... WHEN the new mags are available... but until then, it works fine. Any yes, I typically tinker with every airgun I own, and I own more than my share.... More than a few peoples share... But if I am specifically given instructions on a particular gun then I tend to follow those instructions, and if I do not, I assume all liability for whatever doesnt work right. Seems logical, no? Gasoline and kerosene are both combustible, but I'm not going to buy a new truck and expect to fill the tank up with kerosene and it run right.
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Well boyz and girls here is my quick and dirty lil video of the Evanix Air Speed shooting 10 different pellets with a wide variety of weights, lengths, shapes and manufacturers. This video is designed to do one thing, eliminate all the negative talk that the magazine was a deal breaker for the Air Speed.
Please remember, I do not get paid to make these videos, your comments and feedback are my compensation, please be generous!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTsY6pDc0M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTsY6pDc0M#)
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Very impressive. Thank you Haji, now to wait for the new mags. ;)
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Phenomenal,
cool, glad you did that, thanks so now I don't need to make a video :)
Air Speed looking better and better every passing week :)
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One thing that I've found for setting the pellets into the magazine is an old CO2 cartridge. Regards, Tom
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Yep, a seating tool sure helps,
I wish they had the second hole on the right side rather then the left, so you could seat the pellets pushing them all the way to the wall rather then being careful not to push them in to far,
you would have to load the mag from the left side of the breech but it would be worth IMO.
........what do you think Travis ? Worth mentioning to Mr Lee?
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That is exactly how the rainstorm mags are!
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I wish you could get the Winchester70(Evanix) with a walnut stock like you can the Rainstorms but it would probably be comparable to the RainstormII in .357 in price then. It's still very tempting even with the beech stock, I know the stock that's on my Airmax Dominator is German beech and it's one tough mutha, it still looks very nice yet, used it today on a few squirrels, ah yes more stew in the works already. 8)
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That is exactly how the rainstorm mags are!
Hmmm, maybe the fast cycling Semi action makes the pellets come off the seating if the hole is on that side then and that's why those mags don't work,.....I wish now I could find Gen II Evanix mags ( the ones that used to come with the electronic version of the semi-full guns )
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Ha! Funny! I was working on this experiment as you wrote. Will try tomorrow after JB weld cures hard
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I like that,...."out da box thinking" hope it works and I think it might well do.
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Ha! Funny! I was working on this experiment as you wrote. Will try tomorrow after JB weld cures hard
Cool Steve! Im very curious as well.
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Very interesting. I also wanted to widen the groove for the retaining spring, but will have to make an adapter, to get the drum into my micro lathe. (tomorrow). However, I replaced the spring on this "modified" rainstorm mag, with an "O" ring, and just fired 9 crosman 14.3 HP's through it, no jams! With the extra hole blocked, can only load 9. I also have a rainstorm mag that I put a cut-away in, so it can be removed/inserted, like the stock Air Speed mags, but like has been mentioned, it tends to kick a pellet out the extra opening. Just tinkering away. This totally new design is rather neat, and has me scratching my head trying to figure out just what goes on during a cycle. Have also tried different spring tensions on the drum. I'm having fun ;)
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Very interesting. I also wanted to widen the groove for the retaining spring, but will have to make an adapter, to get the drum into my micro lathe. (tomorrow). However, I replaced the spring on this "modified" rainstorm mag, with an "O" ring, and just fired 9 crosman 14.3 HP's through it, no jams! With the extra hole blocked, can only load 9. I also have a rainstorm mag that I put a cut-away in, so it can be removed/inserted, like the stock Air Speed mags, but like has been mentioned, it tends to kick a pellet out the extra opening. Just tinkering away. This totally new design is rather neat, and has me scratching my head trying to figure out just what goes on during a cycle. Have also tried different spring tensions on the drum. I'm having fun ;)
WAY TO GO STEVE!!!
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There's is something to be said about shooting cheap pellets for fun ( Amazon prices fluctuate but when I got my tins of 14.3gr Crosman price was 7 bucks )
this evening winds wasn't to bad, not blowing 30-40 knots and I was able to consistently get 1" or so groups at 50 yards,
Having fun putting targets in the yard and getting them to jump and roll and just keep shooting at them,.... the combination of low power detune for tons of shots and cheap pellets sure makes for fun times :)
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Ho yeah, forgot to mention
1.500 pellets down the pipe, 1.000 since I got the GEN II mags from Evanix and not a single hiccup.
tomorrow I'm going to pick up my new order of pellets, JSB 18gr, H&N Baracuda hunters and 4 more tins of Crosman 14.3gr
So the shooting will resume and I'll try make many more videos.
This gun sure is fun and detuned it's a Hand Pumper dream with 100 shots from 200 BAR to 100 BAR, couple that with shooting the cheap Crosman pellets and that Semi-Auto action is on fire :)
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Any speed shooters out there that want to run through some paint balls or army men to show off the awesomeness of these guns and your skills. No other guns can do this so some of us are waiting to see what real fun looks like.
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Any speed shooters out there that want to run through some paint balls or army men to show off the awesomeness of these guns and your skills. No other guns can do this so some of us are waiting to see what real fun looks like.
I purchased a sideshot scope cam just for doing that Keith and it hasnt stopped raining since!!! >:(
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I have got to thin the herd and then place my order for the .25 Speed. Manny is that thing as quiet as your video seems or did you add a little hush to the shroud??
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I have got to thin the herd and then place my order for the .25 Speed. Manny is that thing as quiet as your video seems or did you add a little hush to the shroud??
It's quiet, I try baffles and an LDC but it's not necessary and in the videos it's back to stock configuration,.......going to my old house to pick up my pellet order :)
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I tried baffles and a moderator it didn't change it much to be honest. It is however backyard friendly right out of the box, watch Hajimotos video and DB recordings.
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More experimentation fun ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeFEEIpOaUk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeFEEIpOaUk)
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Sweet ;D ;D ;D ;D
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So I put 400 some more pellets down the pipe,
Used the GEN I Magazines with JSB 18gr and H&N Baracuda hunters, first time I was able to use those mags with bigger pellets and I had ZERO Jams/Missfires,
I was using all 4 magazines going back and forth with all pellets and everything when flawless the all time :)
At 40 yards the JSB hit pretty much at the same POI as the Crosman and groups where very similar, really need a calm day to do broad precision testing, slower today but winds still where running in the 10-15 Knots with gusts.
The H&N where hitting a good mildot low and with horrible scattered groups, So I went and did a Ballistol lube job,......Immediately things changed dramatically, POI raised buy almost a full mildot and groups where a rugged hole.
I'm really happy with this gun, if the operator does his part the gun is flawless.
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Mine is shooting pretty good too. The squirrels better watch out! I have a sorta inexpensive Monstrum first focal plane scope on mine, (4X14X44) FFPS41444-M and I can pick a lizard off at 20 yards. Tightest groups with the JSB 18gn and H&N sniper magnums, but not bad at all with some of the cheaper light pellets, like the Discovery's which I have a boat load of. Also got a shipment of Crosman 14.3 in the mail! Put some sound deadening material on my bullet catcher box, so as to not disturb the neighbors too much. Air Speed is very quiet especially with my moderator on, but the clinking of the pellets into the bullet box is a bit loud! ;)
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I think the Benjamin Discovery Pellets are more accurate then the Crosman 14.3
they are 8 bucks right now on Amazon Prime so I ordered a bunch of tins :)
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Mine is shooting pretty good too. The squirrels better watch out! I have a sorta inexpensive Monstrum first focal plane scope on mine, (4X14X44) FFPS41444-M and I can pick a lizard off at 20 yards. Tightest groups with the JSB 18gn and H&N sniper magnums, but not bad at all with some of the cheaper light pellets, like the Discovery's which I have a boat load of. Also got a shipment of Crosman 14.3 in the mail! Put some sound deadening material on my bullet catcher box, so as to not disturb the neighbors too much. Air Speed is very quiet especially with my moderator on, but the clinking of the pellets into the bullet box is a bit loud! ;)
Im using the same scope And I think its the best bang for the buck out there. Steve do you have some close ups of your magazine mods? I can get the double mags!!!
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I'll try tomorrow. My mini lathe leaves a lot to be desired. Had to do some hand filing to finish. Worked on a stock Air Speed mag, will try it out tomorrow. Sippin some Christmas spirits at the moment! Merry Christmas Travis, to you and yours. ;)
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It's soooo hard to shoot slow with this gun ;D
Normally when you cycle a lever or a bolt you have to re-position yourself and re-acquire your target,
with the Airspeed after you shoot it's still right there ;D ......nothing to do but pull that trigger again right away ;D
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It's soooo hard to shoot slow with this gun ;D
Normally when you cycle a lever or a bolt you have to re-position yourself and re-acquire your target,
with the Airspeed after you shoot it's still right there ;D ......nothing to do but pull that trigger again right away ;D
I can't imagine...... I would need to have more than 2 nitrogen tanks, lol. How many of those 20 fpe shots are you getting on a fill?
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It's soooo hard to shoot slow with this gun ;D
Normally when you cycle a lever or a bolt you have to re-position yourself and re-acquire your target,
with the Airspeed after you shoot it's still right there ;D ......nothing to do but pull that trigger again right away ;D
I can't imagine...... I would need to have more than 2 nitrogen tanks, lol. How many of those 20 fpe shots are you getting on a fill?
Getting 100 shots from 200 BAR down to 100 BAR, but I could fill the gun to 230 BAR
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It's soooo hard to shoot slow with this gun ;D
Normally when you cycle a lever or a bolt you have to re-position yourself and re-acquire your target,
with the Airspeed after you shoot it's still right there ;D ......nothing to do but pull that trigger again right away ;D
I can't imagine...... I would need to have more than 2 nitrogen tanks, lol. How many of those 20 fpe shots are you getting on a fill?
Getting 100 shots from 200 BAR down to 100 BAR, but I could fill the gun to 230 BAR
Very impressive that it will do over 2000 total FPE on a full fill, all while cycling the action.
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Bet Manny is thankful for the shot count, being a hand pumper :)
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Bet Manny is thankful for the shot count, being a hand pumper :)
Yep, Handpumper dream,
usually only pump to 150 BAR an shoot a good 50 rounds :)
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;) ;D ;D Only 50 is that your weak attempt at saving money in your pellet budget .. I will need to be careful or My pension check will be spent on my pellet supply so I can maintain a proper reserve of its favorite pellet ;D ;D ;D
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;) ;D ;D Only 50 is that your weak attempt at saving money in your pellet budget .. I will need to be careful or My pension check will be spent on my pellet supply so I can maintain a proper reserve of its favorite pellet ;D ;D ;D
That's why I stalk Amazon and order Discovery and Crosman pellets when they are in the 7-8 bucks per 500 count tin :) :)
These pellets actually shoot rather good.
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So, can't always be serious in this Airgun business and today we are kids.
Wish you could see better the vitamin bottles jump and fall but they where at 35-40 yards so it's hard to pick them up on video.
4 mags filled with 3 different pellets
https://youtu.be/ivVe55J9xtY
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You guys are killing me. Now I need to order one to join in the fun.
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I'd really like to have one of these too Bob but right now I don't have the funds. I pretty much want to keep what I've got so selling guns isn't an option. JSAR does give a discount for verterans too.
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I'd really like to have one of these too Bob but right now I don't have the funds. I pretty much want to keep what I've got so selling guns isn't an option. JSAR does give a discount for verterans too.
Wayne, Thanks for the reminder as I forgot about the veterans discount. It's time to save up because I also don't want to liquidate.
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You guys are killing me. Now I need to order one to join in the fun.
Telling you Bob, for sure it's a fun gun,
very, very reliable, so easy to operate and responds well to a de-tune, even with my jump of the cliff/hack job she's doing real good :)
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I think for those used to them crunchy/hard bolt actions this platform would be mind blowing ;D ;D ;D
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This Gun makes me wish I lived in the mainland, where I could roam the squirrel woods and have chances to all kinds of small game.
I compare it to hunting with a 20 FPE springer, but the gun is way lighter, way more quiet, easier to shoot precisely, repeater with ultra fast follow up shot capability and with 100 shots on tap you can do a lot of plinking to pass time while hunting and still have way more shots on tap for a full day hunting :)
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Just put mine over chronograph and it gained 20 fps from last time so its broke in now I think. I suggest checking it every so often during break in.
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Well, since my Chronograph is dead I tried something different today (Portughee Chrono )
As you will see on the video winds are still to much for serious accuracy testing......... ( on a side-note, after the great results lubing H&N pellets with Ballistol I lubed the Crosman pellets also and I think they too really improved )
Anyway, I shot 10 mags for 10 groups at 40 yards to see what kind of linear difference on POI I would get over the 100 shots,
Now I really am curious to do a full 100 shot chono testing because I can't really see a difference across the all 10 mags.
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1209_zpskdva6cwi.jpg) (https://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1209_zpskdva6cwi.jpg.html)
I little video I made mainly to show the relentless winds we been having.
https://youtu.be/MQ5HxPXhvMg
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That there is very nice grouping! I can't wait for the new designed magazines to be available! :D
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That there is very nice grouping! I can't wait for the new designed magazines to be available! :D
Groups themselves aren't all that great,....But I can blame the wind :) :)
I love the consistency tho, it means that I'm on POI at a fair distance for 100 shots I think that's pretty darn decent :)
Yes the new mags are great, it's good to have the option to keep the gun at stock power or be able to De-tune and shoot a bunch of lower power shots with lighter pellets.
.....speaking of which,
Travis how is your progress in sourcing springs ?
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I spoke with Mr Lee on the phone and he will be offering the new mags at cost to owners who purchased from JSAR as a one time deal, they will be available mid January. Please send Mr lee a thank you and let him know you support JSAR please. His Email evanix@evanix.com
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Talk about listening to the costumers and costumer support,......Can't ask much more from a small company on the opposite side of the globe.
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No Kidd'n. Hats off to Mr. Lee of Evanix! 8)
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Just set up the Air Speed for Night time pesting around the property :)
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1210_zpsqhtw6bfv.jpg) (https://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1210_zpsqhtw6bfv.jpg.html)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1211_zpszk9lc1vz.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1211_zpszk9lc1vz.jpg.html)
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Thanks Travis! I just sent Mr. Lee a thank you, and please put me down for 2 of the new mags in .22 when they become available! JSAR and Evanix sure make a great team! I love the service! Thank you also and have a very Merry Christmas!
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Talk about listening to the costumers and costumer support,......Can't ask much more from a small company on the opposite side of the globe.
Just set up the Air Speed for Night time pesting around the property :)
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1210_zpsqhtw6bfv.jpg) (https://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1210_zpsqhtw6bfv.jpg.html)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1211_zpszk9lc1vz.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1211_zpszk9lc1vz.jpg.html)
Will that include some mongeese? Regards, Tom
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I challenge Manny to make a video showing at least three hits in semi auto action on one mongoose or other critter
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Talk about listening to the costumers and costumer support,......Can't ask much more from a small company on the opposite side of the globe.
Just set up the Air Speed for Night time pesting around the property :)
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1210_zpsqhtw6bfv.jpg) (https://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1210_zpsqhtw6bfv.jpg.html)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1211_zpszk9lc1vz.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1211_zpszk9lc1vz.jpg.html)
Will that include some mongeese? Regards, Tom
Mongoose is diurnal,.....it's gonna be more for frogging and taking care of those nocturnal critters that need to be taken care now and again.
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I challenge Manny to make a video showing at least three hits in semi auto action on one mongoose or other critter
Zero chance to take 3 shots at a mongoose.
When I had my Evanix MAX .25 full auto I took a big Boar with a 3 shots full auto burst :)
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American Air Arms sells a great barrel band with a Picatinny rail for the Rainstorm. I wonder if it fits the Air Speed too. :-\
https://americanairarms.com/product/rainstorm-and-rainstorm-ii-picatinny-barrel-band/
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American Air Arms sells a great barrel band with a Picatinny rail for the Rainstorm. I wonder if it fits the Air Speed too. :-\
https://americanairarms.com/product/rainstorm-and-rainstorm-ii-picatinny-barrel-band/
Yes it does fit the Air Speed,
I have one of those from Tom on my Storm .30
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Merry Christmas and thanks to Shooter1721 and Haji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs)
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I like that youtube video of 1721 pretty cool 8)
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Merry Christmas and thanks to Shooter1721 and Haji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs)
Nice review there,
that .25 didn't look pellet picky at all, seemed pretty good groups to me at 50 yards and very little POI variation from pellet to pellet.
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The Airspeed is everything we all wished our 1077 repeat-air could be :o
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The Airspeed is everything we all wished our 1077 repeat-air could be :o
What the Wildfire thought it should be! LOL!
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Not picky at all. I was wondering if it was the stock mag, or the updated mag. Maybe the .25's all come with the newer mag.
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Not picky at all. I was wondering if it was the stock mag, or the updated mag. Maybe the .25's all come with the newer mag.
No need for GEN II mags on the .25
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I blew thru a bunch of pellets and air yesterday with the Sumatra. I can't imagine a semi auto.
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I blew thru a bunch of pellets and air yesterday with the Sumatra. I can't imagine a semi auto.
The cowboy style lever action sure it's super fun too :) :)
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I blew thru a bunch of pellets and air yesterday with the Sumatra. I can't imagine a semi auto.
The cowboy style lever action sure it's super fun too :) :)
You got that right. I couldn't stop. And the accuracy just blew my mind. But, this is about the Air Speed.
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I blew thru a bunch of pellets and air yesterday with the Sumatra. I can't imagine a semi auto.
The cowboy style lever action sure it's super fun too :) :)
You got that right. I couldn't stop. And the accuracy just blew my mind. But, this is about the Air Speed.
Still,.....cannot talk enough about Sumatras, such an underrated gun.
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You fellas are having too much fun with these semi's, but I'm having fun watching you too.
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Just ran about 8 or 9 mags through my 22 Air Speed. JSB 18, H&N Sniper Magnum 18gn, and a mag of JSB Monster 25gn (old version) no problems. :D
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Just ran about 8 or 9 mags through my 22 Air Speed. JSB 18, H&N Sniper Magnum 18gn, and a mag of JSB Monster 25gn (old version) no problems. :D
So far,.....very, very impressed
as long as I do my part ( and from hearing from a bunch of others ) ...as far as we do our part, the guns are flawless.
Good design indeed, fun, fun, fun.
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Does the Airspeed fire pellets from the mag, like a Huben; or does it cycle the bolt after each shot, to load the next?
Or, does the bolt close and load the pellet after you trip the trigger? This bit of video suggests it is the latter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs&feature=youtu.be&t=242 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs&feature=youtu.be&t=242)
If the probe loads the pellet after you trip the trigger, doesn't that increase lock-time? Perhaps that matters not when shooting off sandbags, but what about offhand or improvised field rests? Also, slamming the pellets into the barrel might risk distorting them; unless everything is perfectly aligned...
In any event, this rifle seems ideal for ratting, when the rats are running thick and fast.
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It fires them from the mag. Load up a few mags and off you go.
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It fires them from the mag. Load up a few mags and off you go.
But, is that by driving them into the chamber via the air actuated bolt?
The Huben has an O-ring seal at the front and rear of its mag, so no probe is required. The Airspeed's advantage is that it is unleaded when the mag is removed (theoretically), while the Huben's mag is not removable. The disadvantage would seem potential rough handling of the pellet; either by slamming it into the chamber with a fast acting probe (and longer lock-time), or by blowing it into the leade at high speed (as the Huben does it).
Ultimately, reliable results on target, and a lack of extreme pellet fussiness are what matter.
Sure looks like fun...
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Without letting the cat out of the bag sort of speak. The hammer and probe move at the same time . Quite ingenuous really.
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From watching the video above, it dosen't appear that the loading process is having any negative affect on the pellets. No sign of being pellet picky.
I see where you're going with the concerns but, I just don't see it as an issue in the video.
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Without letting the cat out of the bag sort of speak.
Might be too late for that:
The cat planted the idea that the operating principle is what amounts to "firing from the open bolt", much like a PB SMG...
In other words, the mechanism that re-cocks the hammer and cycles the mag gets it energy from the shot cycle by driving the bolt backwards (acting like a caliber sized piston) while the pellet is accelerating down the barrel.
But, because the probe starts the firing cycle with "closing momentum", and then reverses direction due to air pressure; it travels quite some distance before its O-ring drops off the part of the chamber diameter that is tight enough to seal under pressure.
Thus, it is mainly because of the high hammer and bolt inertia that the pellet is long gone from the muzzle, before residual pressure is vented out the "chamber" as the bolt/hammer are recaptured by the sear. No positive breech lock would be required; just as PBs that use "blowback" operation.
Just as with an open bolt SMG, this type of action is natural for full auto. In fact, should the action short stroke slightly (just short of being captured by the sear) for some reason, it will tend to keep firing until the mag is empty.
If the above is more or less correct, then it is ingenious in its simplicity. However, it would not be possible to dry-fire more than once before manually re-cocking the hammer. If continuous dry firing is possible, then I have the cat by the tail; or is it the tale :)
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Without letting the cat out of the bag sort of speak.
Just as with an open bolt SMG, this type of action is natural for full auto. In fact, should the action short stroke slightly (just short of being captured by the sear) for some reason, it will tend to keep firing until the mag is empty.
The design of the magazine is such that it does not prevent the bolt from going forward once the magazine is empty, so technically, if it were to short stroke as you mention, it would continue to fire until the air pressure in the tank reached a point where it would no longer cycle the action.
This has happened when short, light pellets were used. This issue has also already been addressed by Evanix and new magazines are being tested and have been proven reliable with the short, light pellets. It is an ingenious design backed by some amazing customer support!
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If the magazine is empty, there is no pellet to act as a moving "plug" in the barrel. Thus, if the probe itself acts as the action driving piston, there should not be enough pressure acting on the probe to cycle the action when the pellet is absent.
If the gun can empty its air cylinder via dry firing, then my understanding of the mechanism is incomplete, or flawed. However; the fact that light pellets produce less thrust on the probe, and thus fail to carry the hammer all the way back to be captured by the sear, does support my mental model of this action.
If what I described is not being used in this semi/full auto airgun (or any other), it certainly could be :)
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The issue with the light pellets that causes the rapid fire situation is because if they weren’t fully seated in the original magazines they would vibrate loose and fall into the mechanism causing a situation where the probe could not cycle far enough to catch and thus would just continue to fire. This happened to me twice before we figured out what the problem was. If you stick with the longer, heavier pellets, they stay seated in the magazine where they belong until fired. And yes, you can repeatedly dry fire the rifle with no magazine installed.
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It is a very ingenious design, and that is why Mr. Lee has a patent on it. The bolt has a tube sticking out the face, that fits around an extension of the valve. So the bolt gets a kick not only from the force of the valve closing, but also a burst of air pressure going into that tube. And there is a rod connecting the bolt to the probe. They move in unison. It is actually VERY simple, with few moving parts. The only flaw on the original version was with the magazine, not holding the pellets in place, as was mentioned above. It might be possible to go full auto, but the magazine could not keep up with the speed of the cycling. I'm not quite sure how I did it, but on one of my experiments with short pellets, I wound up with 3 pellets jammed in the barrel! That makes no sense at all, and I'm not even going to try to figure that one out. What was so impressive on Shooter 1721's video was the fairly tight grouping of the different pellets, a lot of PCP's will not do that ;D
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If the magazine is empty, there is no pellet to act as a moving "plug" in the barrel. Thus, if the probe itself acts as the action driving piston, there should not be enough pressure acting on the probe to cycle the action when the pellet is absent.
If the gun can empty its air cylinder via dry firing, then my understanding of the mechanism is incomplete, or flawed. However; the fact that light pellets produce less thrust on the probe, and thus fail to carry the hammer all the way back to be captured by the sear, does support my mental model of this action.
If what I described is not being used in this semi/full auto airgun (or any other), it certainly could be :)
You can keep shooting all day without pellets or magazine in the gun :)
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If the magazine is empty, there is no pellet to act as a moving "plug" in the barrel. Thus, if the probe itself acts as the action driving piston, there should not be enough pressure acting on the probe to cycle the action when the pellet is absent.
If the gun can empty its air cylinder via dry firing, then my understanding of the mechanism is incomplete, or flawed. However; the fact that light pellets produce less thrust on the probe, and thus fail to carry the hammer all the way back to be captured by the sear, does support my mental model of this action.
If what I described is not being used in this semi/full auto airgun (or any other), it certainly could be :)
The semi auto feature has nothing to do with barrel pressure or a blowback style system it’s actuated off the valve itself. The hammer rides on a hollow tube the hollow tube is the valve stem. When you open the valve a small amount of clean Air is send down the hollow valve stem blowing the hammer back to rest on the sear catch. Simple elegant design
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Then the air felt at the breech when shooting is very little or none of the air that pushes the pellet? Regards, Tom
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In the event that one or more pellets get jammed halfway up an air rifle barrel, how does one go about extracting those pellets without damaging the rifling of the barrel ? I haven't encountered this predicament yet, and would appreciate some advice on what to do if pellets do get jammed halfway up the spout.
My air rifle "collection" thus far comprises a recently acquired Gamo Swarm Maxxim repeater break-barrel in 22 caliber, which has exceeded my modest expectations, and re-ignited my interest in the quiet world of air rifles. While still looking over PCP rifles that are either bolt action or lever action, the recent emergence of reliable semi-auto air rifles is also testing my resolve not to make impulse purchases ha ha.
With all the rave reviews the Evanix Air Speed is getting on youtube, I am seriously considering buying this semi-auto marvel of engineering, even though I fully expect that comparable air rifle designs to the Evanix Air Speed will hit the market at lower prices in a year or less, if only I were prepared to wait for the inevitable competition in the semi-auto air rifle genre that now seems set to really take off.
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I cleared the barrel of my pellet jammed rifle with my carbon fiber shafted cleaning rod. No damage to rifiling.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PW84I8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PW84I8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
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Heck with a semi auto working with air only these rifles are a totally new horizon to airgunning. From what I'm seen Mr. Lee did a real fine job with these especially considering his plans were originally for early 2019 if I'm not wrong. The way I look at it is these guns are ready to hunt out of the box and Manny has already detuned his for doing a hundred shots. Think about it, this gun can be adjusted as a heavy hitter or for the real small game. I've got to say that for the money you're not going to find anything better IMO and the folks that already have them seem to be having a blast with them !!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs&t=86s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs&t=86s)
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The semi auto feature has nothing to do with barrel pressure or a blowback style system it’s actuated off the valve itself. The hammer rides on a hollow tube the hollow tube is the valve stem. When you open the valve a small amount of clean Air is send down the hollow valve stem blowing the hammer back to rest on the sear catch. Simple elegant design
Thanks for clearing that up.
The design I was imagining would stop dry firing after one shot. A good feature; no?
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The semi auto feature has nothing to do with barrel pressure or a blowback style system it’s actuated off the valve itself. The hammer rides on a hollow tube the hollow tube is the valve stem. When you open the valve a small amount of clean Air is send down the hollow valve stem blowing the hammer back to rest on the sear catch. Simple elegant design
Thanks for clearing that up.
The design I was imagining would stop dry firing after one shot. A good feature; no?
You would stop after one dry fire anyway as the report changes drastically with no pellet .
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Still early days but this platform sure has the chance to be a winner,
the simple and clever design lends to reliable long term use, the trigger is pretty nice and the magazines are pure quality,
only time will tell but it's looking better and better any passing day ;D
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You would stop after one dry fire anyway as the report changes drastically with no pellet .
That's true if you are younger and don't have hearing aids. :D
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My reaction to watching this is; I want one; possibly two :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs&t=86s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs&t=86s)
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My reaction to watching this is; I want one; possibly two :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs&t=86s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBfENf7eYs&t=86s)
We have pretty big discounts for purchases of 2 or more just saying 8)
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I cleared the barrel of my pellet jammed rifle with my carbon fiber shafted cleaning rod. No damage to rifiling.
Much thanks Steve. I'll be picking up one of those carbon fiber cleaning rods right away, so I have the right tool for the job whenever that first pellet jam occurs.
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I cleared the barrel of my pellet jammed rifle with my carbon fiber shafted cleaning rod. No damage to rifiling.
Much thanks Steve. I'll be picking up one of those carbon fiber cleaning rods right away, so I have the right tool for the job whenever that first pellet jam occurs.
I'd like to have one of those cleaning rods also but at the moment the spending has to stop for a while, money is getting tight right now with all the buying that I've been doing recently ???
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I cleared the barrel of my pellet jammed rifle with my carbon fiber shafted cleaning rod. No damage to rifiling.
Much thanks Steve. I'll be picking up one of those carbon fiber cleaning rods right away, so I have the right tool for the job whenever that first pellet jam occurs.
I'd like to have one of those cleaning rods also but at the moment the spending has to stop for a while, money is getting tight right now with all the buying that I've been doing recently ???
Wayne a 1/8" diameter 3ft wooden dowel from your local hardware store will do the trick for .22 cal and .25 cal! I've got one around here somewhere that I've used for just that situation on other guns.
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I cleared the barrel of my pellet jammed rifle with my carbon fiber shafted cleaning rod. No damage to rifiling.
Much thanks Steve. I'll be picking up one of those carbon fiber cleaning rods right away, so I have the right tool for the job whenever that first pellet jam occurs.
Never had a pellet stuck in the barrel in over a decade in PCPs
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I cleared the barrel of my pellet jammed rifle with my carbon fiber shafted cleaning rod. No damage to rifiling.
Much thanks Steve. I'll be picking up one of those carbon fiber cleaning rods right away, so I have the right tool for the job whenever that first pellet jam occurs.
Never had a pellet stuck in the barrel in over a decade in PCPs
Manny my thoughts would be that it would be handy for pushing pellets through a barrel for inspecting etc. for tuning myself. It's been a very long time since I've had a bullet or pellet stuck in a barrel too.
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I cleared the barrel of my pellet jammed rifle with my carbon fiber shafted cleaning rod. No damage to rifiling.
Much thanks Steve. I'll be picking up one of those carbon fiber cleaning rods right away, so I have the right tool for the job whenever that first pellet jam occurs.
Never had a pellet stuck in the barrel in over a decade in PCPs
Manny my thoughts would be that it would be handy for pushing pellets through a barrel for inspecting etc. for tuning myself. It's been a very long time since I've had a bullet or pellet stuck in a barrel too.
Just saying because the poster seems convinced he will have pellets stuck for sure,......Don't have to be so ;)
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I cleared the barrel of my pellet jammed rifle with my carbon fiber shafted cleaning rod. No damage to rifiling.
Much thanks Steve. I'll be picking up one of those carbon fiber cleaning rods right away, so I have the right tool for the job whenever that first pellet jam occurs.
Never had a pellet stuck in the barrel in over a decade in PCPs
Been a long time for me. I tried to shoot a .22 slug through a Umarex Octane gas piston rifle that was way to tight for the barrel. Big time stupidity on my part. In my defense, I was just a newb at the time. LOL
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Yeah, I can understand a slug if it's not sized correctly, but a pellet ? ...even those times when I had Marauders that I would double feed because of that junk bolt action I could still shoot them out.
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I cleared the barrel of my pellet jammed rifle with my carbon fiber shafted cleaning rod. No damage to rifiling.
I'll be picking up one of those carbon fiber cleaning rods right away, so I have the right tool for the job whenever that first pellet jam occurs.
I'd like to have one of those cleaning rods also but at the moment the spending has to stop for a w[size=78%]ht now with all the buying that I've been doing recently[/size] ???
Wayne, some ACE hardware stores carry both soft and Oak rods. For clearing jams, I use a smaller than bore shaft. . It is a carbon shaft (arrow shart. Very stiff and strong) and many times less expensive than a carbon cleaning rod. You can pick up one at wally world for around 5 bucks. Remove the fletching and point adapter and your set. like to use it rather than risking the brass threaded area on the Carbon cleaning rod I have.
Makes it very easy to tap with a dead blow hammer to check actual bore when slugging a barrel
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What the heck is with the tiny lettering?
Wayne, even though I have a quality carbon cleaning rod, I want to slug barrels from time to time. Or clear a jam in a bullet shooter. That takes some strength. More than I am willing to subject the threaded end of the cleaning rod to.
For these uses, I use a Carbon Archery shaft that is under bore dia. They are very stiff. Even stiffer than the cleaning rods. YOu can easily tap a slug thru the barrel using a small, dead blow hammer.
They can be had very inexpensively. Old Wally World carries them for 5-6 bucks. Just remove the fletching and point adapter and you are in business.
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I use a Carbon Archery shaft that is under bore dia. They are very stiff. Even stiffer than the cleaning rods. YOu can easily tap a slug thru the barrel using a small, dead blow hammer.
They can be had very inexpensively. Old Wally World carries them for 5-6 bucks. Just remove the fletching and point adapter and you are in business.
These? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Carbon-Express-Wolverine-55-70-lb-Draw-Arrow-30/50402146 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Carbon-Express-Wolverine-55-70-lb-Draw-Arrow-30/50402146)
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What the heck is with the tiny lettering?
Wayne, even though I have a quality carbon cleaning rod, I want to slug barrels from time to time. Or clear a jam in a bullet shooter. That takes some strength. More than I am willing to subject the threaded end of the cleaning rod to.
For these uses, I use a Carbon Archery shaft that is under bore dia. They are very stiff. Even stiffer than the cleaning rods. YOu can easily tap a slug thru the barrel using a small, dead blow hammer.
They can be had very inexpensively. Old Wally World carries them for 5-6 bucks. Just remove the fletching and point adapter and you are in business.
Wow that sounds like just the ticket, I'm not an a r c her and never knew you could get something like that. My brother has a carbon fiber cleaning kit for .177's, I tried finding one like it but couldn't. He said he's had it for years though.
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A simple protected push/cleaning rod is a 1/8" x 36" steel or brass rod, from the Hardware store, covered with a 36" length of 3/16" heat shrink tubing.
Thread one end and you can insert a 3/4" x 3" swivel wooden dowel TEE handle.
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Sold the EdGun next up is the BSA then AirSpeed .25
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What the heck is with the tiny lettering?
Wayne, even though I have a quality carbon cleaning rod, I want to slug barrels from time to time. Or clear a jam in a bullet shooter. That takes some strength. More than I am willing to subject the threaded end of the cleaning rod to.
For these uses, I use a Carbon Archery shaft that is under bore dia. They are very stiff. Even stiffer than the cleaning rods. YOu can easily tap a slug thru the barrel using a small, dead blow hammer.
They can be had very inexpensively. Old Wally World carries them for 5-6 bucks. Just remove the fletching and point adapter and you are in business.
Much thanks for this pointer, Mike. The carbon arrow shaft is a brilliant idea that costs so little. While it is reassuring to hear that Nomadic Pirate has not seen a single stuck pellet in a decade of PCP air rifle shooting, my having the right tool for removing a stuck pellet is worthwhile, even for my Gamo Swarm Maxxim break barrel rifle that has thus far worked flawlessly and with no such jams yet, knock on wood.
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Just got a new pellet order in,
(https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1212_zpsqaebd7z2.jpg) (https://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1212_zpsqaebd7z2.jpg.html)
Keep shooting ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;) ;D Manny I will let you know what I like about the .25 I just ordered my Airspeed from Jacob at JSAR
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;) ;D Manny I will let you know what I like about the .25 I just ordered my Airspeed from Jacob at JSAR
OW YA!!!
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;) ;D Manny I will let you know what I like about the .25 I just ordered my Airspeed from Jacob at JSAR
OW YA!!!
You too Travis ;) ;D
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;) ;D Manny I will let you know what I like about the .25 I just ordered my Airspeed from Jacob at JSAR
;D ;D Looking forward to hear how much fun you having ;)
Looks like those .25s are super non pellet picky indeed.
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Here is a video of the Pup, ( not my video )
Pups really lend themselves to the semi action.
https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/334841570576425/?t=0 (https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/334841570576425/?t=0)
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Nice! Never shot a BP, would like too. Peter L. Lives nearby. (about 30 miles. Near by Texas standards. LOL) Has an impact. Need to get with him to try one out!
Mike.
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Nope, BP is not for me. First off, I'm a long hair and it would just be too easy to send a patch downrange after being tangled in the mag. ???
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Nope, BP is not for me. First off, I'm a long hair and it would just be too easy to send a patch downrange after being tangled in the mag. ???
LOL! Those some real world problems you got there Bill! Then again, I got no hair and I'm still not much of a BP guy. I do have the BullBoss, but it's almost like a crossover between a BP and carbine.
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AT this point I have owned a few and I am definitely NOT a bullpup fan I like the classic lines of long guns besides If i end up in a combat zone I want a barretts 50 cal semi auto sniper rifle I'm way too old to get up close and personal. As far as going into the brush been there and done that for almost 60 years with conventional long guns and no problems with getting snagged just slip between the branches ::);D ;D
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You guys are just in denial. The BPs rule. Way more balanced, lighter and just a little shorter really. A lot easier to deal with in the woods, from a truck, or in a stand or blind too. My Slayer has taught me this. Waiting to see what the 25 Air Max will do. Oh, and you can put a bonnet on if letting your free flag fly or do the bun thingy lol.
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I could not see the posted video ???
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Nice video. The bullpup is what I'm waiting for. Interesting that it's called Max Air 2. Was there a Max Air 1?
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I'm not into Pups either ( anymore,....I had a bunch of them :) )
But for those that ARE into Pups the Semi-Auto sure shines in that configuration.
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Air Speeds are just putting smiles on people faces all around the globe ;D ;D ;D
https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/284622772407361/?t=0 (https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/284622772407361/?t=0)
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Air Speeds are just putting smiles on people faces all around the globe ;D ;D ;D
https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/284622772407361/?t=0 (https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/284622772407361/?t=0)
Over 2500 sold world wide and not many complaints!
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Yep, looking real, real good on reliability so far,.....and the grin meter is in the red ;D ;D ;D
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:( Raining here yet again today so any grinning I do will be in the man cave at ten yards and that means single hole groups when I don't shake as I pull the trigger.
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10 yards , see how many pellets in a row you can split on a knife edge ;)
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10 yards , see how many pellets in a row you can split on a knife edge ;)
Been there, done that. ;) Just as you would expect a KnifeMaker to do. LOL
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Actually splitting a playing card lengthwise edge on is way harder since if you don't hit it perfect it will flexaway from the pellets path and not cut in half. Ask me how I know ;)
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You’re killing me Smalls!!!! The more and more I read about all the fun and “smiles from ear to ear” y’all having with the Air Speed, the more and more I’m wanting one!!!! But my wife would most likely kick me out the house if I where to cave in!!! Aye caramba.......
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;) Sell off a few of the ones that don't put a smile on your face and join the club. I'm seriously thinking of getting another in .22 once I sell a couple of my excess unloved toys ;D ;D ;D
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I totally agree with your reasoning! It’s just hard for me to “let go.” I’ve could of parted with my first tuned AT44 long a number of times, and once for more than what I have into it. I just couldn’t do it! But thinning the heard is what I will have to do.... Still waiting on the release of the K550 in .25, but since the Air Speed has landed, looks like I will have to add one to the family.
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I'm waiting for someone who's casting their own NOE hunter pellets for either caliber, I'm curious how well they're shooting.
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You guys are killing me too. I may have to look around today and see if I can come up with enough guns to sell to jump on the band wagon with.
I think I would go with the .22. The reason being.. I have unlimited air with my compressors and this being semi auto I doubt if I could reasonably keep enough .25 ammo on hand to feed it.
Here's the rub... I'm pretty sure most of the guns I have that I would be willing to sell would only net me in the $100 each range to make the deals interesting for potential buyers. Then comes packing and shipping. I've tried this before and it didn't really go as planned and I ended up digging into other sources for the funds. That don't set well with Betty Lou.
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You guys are killing me too. I may have to look around today and see if I can come up with enough guns to sell to jump on the band wagon with.
I think I would go with the .22. The reason being.. I have unlimited air with my compressors and this being semi auto I doubt if I could reasonably keep enough .25 ammo on hand to feed it.
Here's the rub... I'm pretty sure most of the guns I have that I would be willing to sell would only net me in the $100 each range to make the deals interesting for potential buyers. Then comes packing and shipping. I've tried this before and it didn't really go as planned and I ended up digging into other sources for the funds. That don't set well with Betty Lou.
You could try hooking a wagon to the back of the Quad and collect road side soda bottles and save the return deposit money. I would almost bet yhat you would have sufficient funds in a day or two ;D ;D
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You guys are killing me too. I may have to look around today and see if I can come up with enough guns to sell to jump on the band wagon with.
I think I would go with the .22. The reason being.. I have unlimited air with my compressors and this being semi auto I doubt if I could reasonably keep enough .25 ammo on hand to feed it.
Here's the rub... I'm pretty sure most of the guns I have that I would be willing to sell would only net me in the $100 each range to make the deals interesting for potential buyers. Then comes packing and shipping. I've tried this before and it didn't really go as planned and I ended up digging into other sources for the funds. That don't set well with Betty Lou.
You could try hooking a wagon to the back of the Quad and collect road side soda bottles and save the return deposit money. I would almost bet yhat you would have sufficient funds in a day or two ;D ;D
LOL..... we don't get nearly the return on cans as ya'll do in NY. Not only that, most of our adult beverages come in qt. jars... ;)
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If I did get one it would be the .22 because it's basically my favorite for hunting in the woods and casting the .22's wouldn't cost as much as 25's to cast.
As long as I have ingots of lead I'm all set for casting pellets.
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Great point Wayne! I the new Evienex likes the cast, it would be a windfall. 8)
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If I did get one it would be the .22 because it's basically my favorite for hunting in the woods and casting the .22's wouldn't cost as much as 25's to cast.
As long as I have ingots of lead I'm all set for casting pellets.
Good point, saving up for .22. Wayne don't you mean, "when I get one"?
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Air Speeds are just putting smiles on people faces all around the globe ;D ;D ;D
https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/284622772407361/?t=0 (https://www.facebook.com/evanix2/videos/284622772407361/?t=0)
Over 2500 sold world wide and not many complaints!
That's the perfect environment for the Speed. Heck, I had fun just watching the fella shoot it and laugh at the end of the mag.
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And that is exactly what this gun is,.....a SMILE gun :) :)
not that 35-40 FPE in .22 is weak nor that 40 FPE in .25 is weak either, perfectly acceptable power for hunting,
This gun isn't you classic Korean power house but what it is, is a reliable Semi-Auto platform and that in the past has been quite a challenge even for much higher end manufacturers.
If I want a 100 FPE semi auto my Marlin 60 is perfect and with sub-sonic ammo is pretty quiet too,...and it's a Bull-Pup :)
I'm loving my De-tuned AirSpeed, I get a great consistent 100 shots, and that is my SMILE gun :) :) :)
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And that is exactly what this gun is,.....a SMILE gun :) :)
not that 35-40 FPE in .22 is weak nor that 40 FPE in .25 is weak either, perfectly acceptable power for hunting,
This gun isn't you classic Korean power house but what it is, is a reliable Semi-Auto platform and that in the past has been quite a challenge even for much higher end manufacturers.
If I want a 100 FPE semi auto my Marlin 60 is perfect and with sub-sonic ammo is pretty quiet too,...and it's a Bull-Pup :)
I'm loving my De-tuned AirSpeed, I get a great consistent 100 shots, and that is my SMILE gun :) :) :)
No "crunchy" bolt either.
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I'm just waiting for the 30cal bullpup R&D to be finished and for Travis to have them in stock I've had to sell a couple of mine so I can afford one. :)
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Once I get caught up I'm going to get another in either .177 or .22 just not sure I want to take another chance with a bullpup rifle
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And that is exactly what this gun is,.....a SMILE gun :) :)
not that 35-40 FPE in .22 is weak nor that 40 FPE in .25 is weak either, perfectly acceptable power for hunting,
This gun isn't you classic Korean power house but what it is, is a reliable Semi-Auto platform and that in the past has been quite a challenge even for much higher end manufacturers.
If I want a 100 FPE semi auto my Marlin 60 is perfect and with sub-sonic ammo is pretty quiet too,...and it's a Bull-Pup :)
I'm loving my De-tuned AirSpeed, I get a great consistent 100 shots, and that is my SMILE gun :) :) :)
No "crunchy" bolt either.
:) :) .......I had my share of bolt action airguns ( and I really like bolt action firearms )
Anyway, I was never happy with any of the bolt action airguns I had,....never again.
Me, it's gonna be lever action, under lever (western style) or revolver type exposed hammer for me from now on,.....ho yeah and semi :) :)
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;) ;D I think I will be ordering another Air Speed just not sure may have to try another Bullpup I may like it better if I don't have to cock it after every shot and able to swap magazines on the fly ;D ;D
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I'm not sure what you call the cocking lever/bolt on my Colibri or my Logun Solo, but I like those better than the the levers on my Crickets and the Cricket levers are fine.
The bolt that's on the Marauders and the Gamo......not near as good!
But that lever on the Air Speed has gotta be the bomb!
I gotta play with my new toys for a few months and then have a thinning of the herd before I get into the Evanix semi-auto.
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;) ;D I think I will be ordering another Air Speed just not sure may have to try another Bullpup I may like it better if I don't have to cock it after every shot and able to swap magazines on the fly ;D ;D
I think an Air-MAX .17 should be real cool,......since this is not gonna be a hunting gun for me I'm thinking to maybe trade my .22 Air Speed for a .22 or .17 Pup,.....that should be fun :)
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I'm not sure what you call the cocking lever/bolt on my Colibri or my Logun Solo, but I like those better than the the levers on my Crickets and the Cricket levers are fine.
The bolt that's on the Marauders and the Gamo......not near as good!
But that lever on the Air Speed has gotta be the bomb!
I gotta play with my new toys for a few months and then have a thinning of the herd before I get into the Evanix semi-auto.
Guess I got spoiled by the butter smooth Evanix levers :) :) ( even the .50 is super light and buttery ) .....I did shoot a few Crickets, the lever is nowhere near as smooth as the Evanix,
But I take a Cricket lever over any Bolt action out there :) :) :)
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I'm not sure what you call the cocking lever/bolt on my Colibri or my Logun Solo, but I like those better than the the levers on my Crickets and the Cricket levers are fine.
The bolt that's on the Marauders and the Gamo......not near as good!
But that lever on the Air Speed has gotta be the bomb!
I gotta play with my new toys for a few months and then have a thinning of the herd before I get into the Evanix semi-auto.
Guess I got spoiled by the butter smooth Evanix levers :) :) ( even the .50 is super light and buttery ) .....I did shoot a few Crickets, the lever is nowhere near as smooth as the Evanix,
But I take a Cricket lever over any Bolt action out there :) :) :)
That sounds very promising! Thanks for the heads up Manny!
I'm having a blast with my .177 Sig Sauer semi-auto. (30 round mag/belt) Of course it's only pushing about 3 FPE LOL
But it's amazingly accurate with just the iron sights. Just got a HPA adapter and tank for it yesterday. Waiting till I get the last 100 or so shots out of the CO2 cartridge before I change it over. But it's giving me the semi-auto bug really bad. Can't imagine having 20 to 40 FPE at my finger tips with semi-auto!
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my Taipan vet's lever is 10/1 over other levers even cricket & several evan's i tried....
most of them even have had touches by a few of our "tuner/smiths" here.... ;)
believe it or not, i even had a hatsan bullboss with prolly the smoothest lever i have ever operated :o
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my Taipan vet's lever is 10/1 over other levers even cricket & several evan's i tried....
most of them even have had touches by a few of our "tuner/smiths" here.... ;)
believe it or not, i even had a hatsan bullboss with prolly the smoothest lever i have ever operated :o
Yeah I've heard Taipan levers are sweet,......Lever's rule :)
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Travis, couple questions :
Have you tried to make a depinger for the Air Speed ? ....worth it ?
For what reason is not suggested to go under 100 BAR ? ...what happens ?
Thanks
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Travis, couple questions :
Have you tried to make a depinger for the Air Speed ? ....worth it ?
For what reason is not suggested to go under 100 BAR ? ...what happens ?
Thanks
;) ;D I think from the manual that you may have failed to read fully the mechanism may fail to actuate properly and the valve will not close causing the remaining air to dump from the air tube. At which point you will be pumping that bargain hand pump for a good while to get the rifle fully charged to 250 bar. Should get an excellent upper body and core workout ;) ;D ;D
All kidding aside that happened to me last night because one on my pellets failed to feed properly (probably a bent skirt. ::) ;D Anyway from 3000 psi it made a rude Brraaappp sound and the bolt did not cycle completely and return to the battery position . Exciting to say the least ;D ;D ;D
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Travis, couple questions :
Have you tried to make a depinger for the Air Speed ? ....worth it ?
For what reason is not suggested to go under 100 BAR ? ...what happens ?
Thanks
;) ;D I think from the manual that you may have failed to read fully the mechanism may fail to actuate properly and the valve will not close causing the remaining air to dump from the air tube. At which point you will be pumping that bargain hand pump for a good while to get the rifle fully charged to 250 bar. Should get an excellent upper body and core workout ;) ;D ;D
All kidding aside that happened to me last night because one on my pellets failed to feed properly (probably a bent skirt. ::) ;D Anyway from 3000 psi it made a rude Brraaappp sound and the bolt did not cycle completely and return to the battery position . Exciting to say the least ;D ;D ;D
LOL, I never read manuals :) :)
I was asking because on early Evanix videos they where shooting the Air Speed down to 60 BAR.
Also one more question for Travis,.......if I fill to 250 BAR with my shorter spring/low FPE tune, will I get some kind of valve lock ?
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Travis, couple questions :
Have you tried to make a depinger for the Air Speed ? ....worth it ?
For what reason is not suggested to go under 100 BAR ? ...what happens ?
Thanks
;) ;D I think from the manual that you may have failed to read fully the mechanism may fail to actuate properly and the valve will not close causing the remaining air to dump from the air tube. At which point you will be pumping that bargain hand pump for a good while to get the rifle fully charged to 250 bar. Should get an excellent upper body and core workout ;) ;D ;D
All kidding aside that happened to me last night because one on my pellets failed to feed properly (probably a bent skirt. ::) ;D Anyway from 3000 psi it made a rude Brraaappp sound and the bolt did not cycle completely and return to the battery position . Exciting to say the least ;D ;D ;D
LOL, I never read manuals :) :)
I was asking because on early Evanix videos they where shooting the Air Speed down to 60 BAR.
Also one more question for Travis,.......if I fill to 250 BAR with my shorter spring/low FPE tune, will I get some kind of valve lock ?
You may have to re adjust it for the higher fill pressure but I doubt it. Dont shoot below 100bar thats for sure. I havent had a degass happen on the 22/25 but I did have it happen on the 30 when I over sprung it and it was exciting LOL
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OK,
I want to see how many shots I can get on one fill,.....I'm gonna start at 230 BAR and try go down to 70-80 BAR, if 230 don't get Valve lock I'll try 250
getting 100 shots from 200 BAR to 100 BAR,....wanna see how many I can get by pushing it a bit :) :) :)
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;) Did you put in another pellet order yet ??
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I ordered a .177 bullpup for myself to shoot the monster heavy 177 pellets. This will be my new truck gun.
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I ordered a .177 bullpup for myself to shoot the monster heavy 177 pellets. This will be my new truck gun.
Waiting for your first impressions. I'm undecided whether to get .177 or .22 :-\ :-\ ;D
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I think .177 in this platform is gonna be kool.
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I want a 30cal to go in my stable that should fill it out nicely, Travis have you figured out what kinds power level the 30 will make.
Thanks Terry
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Yesterday and today there's very light winds here compared to the standard ripping trades, but still not real good for serious precision testing, yesterday i did a bunch of plinking at 100 and more yards,...pretty fun.
Today I decided to make a video of the Ultimate "Smile gun" :) :) :)
https://youtu.be/TNJPb_dBWu0
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Boy Manny , that must be really tough having to rough it like that . And here I am “living it up” with -20* and 6” of snow to shovel in the driveway.
As usual , nice shooting . Wish I could be there shooting the .25 . Maybe one day when I grow up .
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I know right ? ...tough life :)
Light winds, warm, sunny and I'm just about to go surfing :)
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I just went to pick up the fruit,
The 2nd tangerine shot with Discovery pellets looks like most of the pellets went through a rugged hole
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Not bad for fast Semi shooting with not the best pellets at 45 yards in the wind :) :)
******EDIT ******
Just watched the video and looks like the last 5-6 pellets on that mag of Discoverys did basically go into a rugged hole.
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You should send me that one , I don’t think it’s working properly . I can send you a resealed 2240 with a nice crunchy bent brass bolt that will shoot 2” at 10 yards all day long . Heck I’ll even throw in a box of factory second co2 carts from Gamo. I know , my wife says I’m too generous .
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Deal !!! ...you got it, I'm in.
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It’s good to see some people still have a good sense of humour . Lots of things wrong with the world we live in , just glad I have a place to share my hobby with like minded people .
If I ever get the opportunity to travel to Hawaii , a pig hunt with Manny will be at the top of the list of things to do .
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Heck, I'd settle for a fruity adult beverage at the awesome live edge table.
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Couple cocktails, some shooting and talk story at the Monkeypod table in 85 degree January sounds good :) :)
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Aha the life! Similar to here in SW Florida. But it's been a bit nippy lately, down to the high 40's at night, back up to the 80's during the day. Sure wish I had some of those new magazines! Those Discovery pellets do pretty good, especially considering the price. I bought a bunch of em, along with some Crosman 14.3's. Got me 3 rats the last 2 nights, with my Prod setup with an ATN night vision scope, shooting the Discoveries. Great fun! ;)
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Steve and Manny >:(
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Prod setup with an ATN night vision scope
That scope must be as long as the Prod! LOL! You having any issues with it locking up or the screen going white?
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No issues so far. I've done all the updates, as they come out. The night vision is a bit grainy/snowy though, but it works. I've got an inexpensive pair of binoculars that work much better than the 4K Pro.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9N2Z8O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9N2Z8O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
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Just test fired the .177 bullpup it averaged 900fps with the JSB 16.20 grain!!!
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Just test fired the .177 bullpup it averaged 900fps with the JSB 16.20 grain!!!
How sweet is that ?!?!?! :)
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Just test fired the .177 bullpup it averaged 900fps with the JSB 16.20 grain!!!
How sweet is that ?!?!?! :)
No kidding. What’s the shot count like ? I’m sure it will make a perfect ratting / pest bird eliminator .
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Little overkill on rats and birds but de tune it and it will be real good.
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Little overkill on rats and birds but de tune it and it will be real good.
That's what I'm thinking, have the OEM spring to shoot the heavy pellets and then have a weaker one to shoot the 10.5 pellets at -/+ 900 fps
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Next project for my Air Speed .22
Gonna fill to 230 BAR and shoot it down to 70-80 BAR ( or to where the gun lets me too ) to see how many shots I'll get.
made a target to monitor any eventual POI difference across the fill at 40 yards
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if there's no significant loss of power at 230 BAR I'll try again at 250 BAR.
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Ok, so which is better and why?
A 30 fpe 0.177 (airspeed according to oldpro)
or a 30 fpe 0.22 - any brand
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Ok, so which is better and why?
A 30 fpe 0.177 (airspeed according to oldpro)
or a 30 fpe 0.22 - any brand
Much depends on what is your view of better.
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For me, it depends on what you hunt, and the bc of the pellet/slug. After that, souley each person's preference. There is no better.
Knife
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Michael are you thinking about getting an Airspeed ?
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I don't think Knife would be happy with an Air Speed,
Because there's nothing to really do with an Air Speed but shoot it :)
Knife is a compulsive modder, he would go crazy with a gun that it's ready to go and don't need work :) :)
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I don't think Knife would be happy with an Air Speed,
Because there's nothing to really do with an Air Speed but shoot it :)
Knife is a compulsive modder, he would go crazy with a gun that it's ready to go and don't need work :) :)
Haha.....takes a modder to know one Manny! LOL
You're a compulsive modder also!!!!!
I envy you guys and your mods though!
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Does that make me a mod-r- ator. LOL, Man, I would hate that job!
I love a gun that doesn't need anything. And why I have PB. Oh wait, I haven't shot one in years. Boring!!!!!
Well, except the Les Baer. but I have to keep in shape with it. ;)
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Next project for my Air Speed .22
Gonna fill to 230 BAR and shoot it down to 70-80 BAR ( or to where the gun lets me too ) to see how many shots I'll get.
made a target to monitor any eventual POI difference across the fill at 40 yards
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if there's no significant loss of power at 230 BAR I'll try again at 250 BAR.
As I mentioned this was gonna be my next project, as you can see I made enough target for 180 shots,...plan was to start shooting on the 3rd target and if I didn't get valve lock next I was gonna fill to 250 BAR and shoot the first 2 targets,......so here we go
Filled to 230 BAR
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(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1247_zpsgtwux51p.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1247_zpsgtwux51p.jpg.html)
Target placed at 35 yards to see the variation in POI across the fill
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What happened next I have absolutely no explanation to but that probably the gun is shooting less then 20 FPE,
So as I said I had 16 target ready for 160 shots that I definitely didn't think I was gonna get too,.....well.....
You can see from the target the first 4 mags the gun was unsure ( I think I held wrong on the second mag ) I was holding 2 mildots high.
Then the gun settled down after 160 shots it was still shooting perfect, so I had to draw an extra line and targets,
I then shot an other 6 mags, at this point I was tripping 220 shot and still going, I looked at the gauge and showed -/+ 75 BAR so I didn't want to push my luck and stopped
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this is where the HILL clicked again when I got inside to check how much air left
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OK here is the target, I'll go back to take better pictures, but those are 220 shots on one fill at 35 yards ( Shooting for reference not accuracy )
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I still can't believe I got that many shots and not real major variation on vertical POI
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8) Awesome gun!
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OK so I went back out and put a ruler over the string to have a better idea,
Looks like I stopped shooting at the right time because the mag from shot 210 to 220 definitely looks like it's dropping
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the first 160 shots
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some half decent groups in the middle
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Looks to me that from shot 61 to shot 210 the string is pretty much flat,
I still don't really believe it so I'm gonna try this again in the next couple days.
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Something I forgot to mention,
Since receiving the new mags I had zero, none, not a single missfire and I've shot a ton of rounds, I think this is pretty remarkable and this platform sure seems incredibly reliable for a semi-auto.
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Just made a new target, and I'm prepared this time I have room for 240 Shots ;D
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Also opened and lubed a new tin
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How would you like to shoot this guy out of your gun ;D
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I like that pellet with wings. Is that something new? I guess once airborne, it just keeps sailing.
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OK here we go again.
set up again at 35 yards but this time I was going to shoot without hold over or under to have a better prospective on the line
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Starting point, I think the gun gauge reads a bit more then the HILL
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Ending point
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220 shots
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Looks like the first 20 shots was a bit of a struggle, shots 21 to 60 looks like a steady climb, shots 61 to 220 look to be right on the line ( don't know what happen to mag 8 but sure was a good group ;D ;D )
So let's call 160 good shots ?
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Here is a better break down with some visual help.
Shots 1 to 60 , definitely the first 2 mags are a goner :)
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Shots 61 to 120 ,....I have no idea what happened to mag 8 it sure ruined the line :) :)
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(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1268_zpsfskshvxx.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1268_zpsfskshvxx.jpg.html)
Shots 121 to 180
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(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/DSCF1270_zpsq1wureqv.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/media/DSCF1270_zpsq1wureqv.jpg.html)
Shots 181 to 220
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That’s about 1.5 efficiency . That’s super impressive for a stock rifle with no add on SSG or similar device. Let alone a semi auto . My .25 is doing about 1.25 efficiency which is also pretty impressive . Long live the air speed . Mr. Lee and friends sure nailed this one . Can’t wait to see what they come out with next .
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Manny, so for best accuracy you should only fill to say 190 bar and shoot down to say 70 or 80 bar?
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Manny, so for best accuracy you should only fill to say 190 bar and shoot down to say 70 or 80 bar?
It sure seems so, right ? :)
I think I figured out why I am getting more shots then expected,
originally I screwed the hammerspring all the way in, realized today it must have in time come back past flush,.....that would indeed explain the matter.
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That’s about 1.5 efficiency . That’s super impressive for a stock rifle with no add on SSG or similar device. Let alone a semi auto . My .25 is doing about 1.25 efficiency which is also pretty impressive . Long live the air speed . Mr. Lee and friends sure nailed this one . Can’t wait to see what they come out with next .
Agree,
I wish that in the first shipment they had some .17 cal
I'm thinking if I get some extra cash I might see if I can trade my Speed .22 for a .17 Pup :)
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Has anybody tried to tweak their Air Speed .25 ala a little lighter hammer spring or other minor changes to improve efficiency. Right now I am getting 45 good shots out of the box and nothing done other than ~ 1000 pellets through it.
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LOL..... never satisfied, are we.
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LOL..... never satisfied, are we.
;) ;D :P :P I can assure you sir this is not about satisfied it is about being curious ;D ;D ;D
I can safely say that I have gone through more air and pellets in the last two weeks than I would normally use in a month. Thank goodness I have the Freedom 8 and 3 CF tanks. Also an abundance of the Air Speeds current fav pellet ~3000. but I am about to put a large order to Pyarmyd AG for another 8 or so tins of the AA 25.4 pellets. I have plenty of every other pellets for the rest of my toys.
With the Air Speed even when I take my time and shoot for best accuracy, I still go through 150 to 200 pellets in a couple hours of shooting
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I hear ya....
I know how much air and lead I go through when shooing single shot magged guns. I can't imagine a semi auto. I once owned a pair of 1077 Crosman C02 guns. Even with the terrible triggers we would blow through the C02 and pellets like water.
I have a semi auto .22 rimfire that I have to hide from myself. :o
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I hear ya....
I know how much air and lead I go through when shooing single shot magged guns. I can't imagine a semi auto. I once owned a pair of 1077 Crosman C02 guns. Even with the terrible triggers we would blow through the C02 and pellets like water.
I have a semi auto .22 rimfire that I have to hide from myself. :o
;D 8) I think what surprises me with the Air Speed platform is almost everybody who has one is amazed by the accuracy . Once I can get out to the range I will stretch her out to 50 yards and further to see just how far I can expect to hit inside 2" and still empty a mag in less than a minute ;D ;D ;D
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LOL.... I'm sure you'll meet that goal with ease. I can empty a 10 shot mag in my bolt action Urban in less than a minute.
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LOL..... never satisfied, are we.
;) ;D :P :P I can assure you sir this is not about satisfied it is about being curious ;D ;D ;D
I can safely say that I have gone through more air and pellets in the last two weeks than I would normally use in a month. Thank goodness I have the Freedom 8 and 3 CF tanks. Also an abundance of the Air Speeds current fav pellet ~3000. but I am about to put a large order to Pyarmyd AG for another 8 or so tins of the AA 25.4 pellets. I have plenty of every other pellets for the rest of my toys.
With the Air Speed even when I take my time and shoot for best accuracy, I still go through 150 to 200 pellets in a couple hours of shooting
Hey Don, I’m curious if you have tried the H&N 20gr pellets yet? I have a Max Air on the way in .25 and a bunch of these 20gr pellets that I’m hoping shoot well out of it. 🤔
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LOL.... I'm sure you'll meet that goal with ease. I can empty a 10 shot mag in my bolt action Urban in less than a minute.
;) If that is too easy I will drop the time to under 30 seconds remember those will be aimed shots ;D ;D
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When will buyers get the bullpups? Wanting to see pictures, videos, shot strings, etc on those too.
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LOL.... I'm sure you'll meet that goal with ease. I can empty a 10 shot mag in my bolt action Urban in less than a minute.
;) If that is too easy I will drop the time to under 30 seconds remember those will be aimed shots ;D ;D
30 Seconds ?!?!?!?
I'm happy if I make a magazine last more then 10 seconds :)
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I guess when I go to the pellet rifle range I'll bring a bag of oranges or tangerines and see how many hits in a row in 10 to 15 seconds. I am still focused on accuracy over absolute speed. I guess my old training will never leave my head. When shooting I always try to tear the bullseye into confetti so if I can do that with 5 out of 7 9 shot magazines I will be a happy camper. BTW that is with a braced shooting position either prone or sitting. I haven't shot competitively in ~35 years and that was all PB's in the Army reserves ::)
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Manny, that is some impressive testing! Thank you. You should get a sponsorship from one of the pellet companies! :D
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General Air Speed question . I think that the hammer spring threaded cover has backed itself out a good bit while I have been burning up pellets. I also noticed that unlike the RS II there is no bug screw holding the cover and locking it in place. I like the slots cut into the hammer spring retainer on the RS II since once you get it dialed in there is no way you are going to lose that setting.
Now for the Question should the spring retainer be set flush with the rear of the breech block as a baseline setting ?
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Manny, that is some impressive testing! Thank you. You should get a sponsorship from one of the pellet companies! :D
Right ?!? :)
With the current tune this .22 is a Handpumper dream :)
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I guess when I go to the pellet rifle range I'll bring a bag of oranges or tangerines and see how many hits in a row in 10 to 15 seconds. I am still focused on accuracy over absolute speed. I guess my old training will never leave my head. When shooting I always try to tear the bullseye into confetti so if I can do that with 5 out of 7 9 shot magazines I will be a happy camper. BTW that is with a braced shooting position either prone or sitting. I haven't shot competitively in ~35 years and that was all PB's in the Army reserves ::)
That's what I hope to do everytime I start a mag, but I always end up just pulling that trigger I would say on average every second,.....just can't help it :) :)
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When will buyers get the bullpups? Wanting to see pictures, videos, shot strings, etc on those too.
I think the Pups will make this platform really shine.
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When will buyers get the bullpups? Wanting to see pictures, videos, shot strings, etc on those too.
I think the Pups will make this platform really shine.
aren't the pups already available? I saw them listed in the site, are those pups same platform or are they different? I also want to see more of those pups. I'm one of guys that prefer a pup over a rifle.... ::)
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When will buyers get the bullpups? Wanting to see pictures, videos, shot strings, etc on those too.
I think the Pups will make this platform really shine.
aren't the pups already available? I saw them listed in the site, are those pups same platform or are they different? I also want to see more of those pups. I'm one of guys that prefer a pup over a rifle.... ::)
They just started shipping pups last Friday, I have one due this Friday.
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When will buyers get the bullpups? Wanting to see pictures, videos, shot strings, etc on those too.
I think the Pups will make this platform really shine.
aren't the pups already available? I saw them listed in the site, are those pups same platform or are they different? I also want to see more of those pups. I'm one of guys that prefer a pup over a rifle.... ::)
They just started shipping pups last Friday, I have one due this Friday.
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Joe let me know when you are going out to Brookhaven again I'm looking to get one of the pups in .22 or possibly .177 just haven't decided yet. All I know is I need to buy stock in a pellet manufacturer these semi autos eat a lot of pellets. ::) ::)
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Joe let me know when you are going out to Brookhaven again I'm looking to get one of the pups in .22 or possibly .177 just haven't decided yet. All I know is I need to buy stock in a pellet manufacturer these semi autos eat a lot of pellets. ::) ::)
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Probably not going to go this week, maybe next week depending on weather🤷🏻♂️
My gun is making its trek across America, scheduled delivery on Friday, I already got scope,rings,bipod and a few thousand pellets ready to go.
Really looking forward to getting my hands on this thing after watching everyone having so much fun with their Air Speeds.
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What caliber did you get?? Yes figure 6 business days minimum due to all this bad weather.shots to fully settle in on your The AS is surprisingly accurate as long as you pause between shots to acquire POA again
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What caliber did you get?? Yes figure 6 business days minimum due to all this bad weather.shots to fully settle in on your The AS is surprisingly accurate as long as you pause between shots to acquire POA again
.25 :D
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What caliber did you get?? Yes figure 6 business days minimum due to all this bad weather.shots to fully settle in on your The AS is surprisingly accurate as long as you pause between shots to acquire POA again
.25 :D
Cool we can com[are notes on whos is the better ergonomics
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When will buyers get the bullpups? Wanting to see pictures, videos, shot strings, etc on those too.
I think the Pups will make this platform really shine.
aren't the pups already available? I saw them listed in the site, are those pups same platform or are they different? I also want to see more of those pups. I'm one of guys that prefer a pup over a rifle.... ::)
Same platform, different dress :)
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When will buyers get the bullpups? Wanting to see pictures, videos, shot strings, etc on those too.
I think the Pups will make this platform really shine.
aren't the pups already available? I saw them listed in the site, are those pups same platform or are they different? I also want to see more of those pups. I'm one of guys that prefer a pup over a rifle.... ::)
Same platform, different dress :)
Manny,
Thanks For the reply. I think I’ve found a video on YouTube, is the safety on the pup on the side? Actually on both sides? I’ll like to see more about it
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MaxAir safety on/off moves in, out. My .177 showed up with not much daylight left.
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Looks good! The walnut is a nice touch. Can’t wait to hear what you think about it 🤔 Is that a Sumo you got on there already?
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Looks good! The walnut is a nice touch. Can’t wait to hear what you think about it 🤔 Is that a Sumo you got on there already?
Guys I think we should open a new post just for the pup and keep this for the Air Speed, what do you think?
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Looks good! The walnut is a nice touch. Can’t wait to hear what you think about it 🤔 Is that a Sumo you got on there already?
Hi Joekrooz thanks for the compliments! did pull a Sumo off one of my other airguns. Lol it also has a mag cover that the Air Speed don't have. Lol shoot it one time and you know why! Scoped and muted it weighs 9.9 lbs.
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Looks good! The walnut is a nice touch. Can’t wait to hear what you think about it 🤔 Is that a Sumo you got on there already?
Guys I think we should open a new post just for the pup and keep this for the Air Speed, what do you think?
Sounds good to me.
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Looks good! The walnut is a nice touch. Can’t wait to hear what you think about it 🤔 Is that a Sumo you got on there already?
Guys I think we should open a new post just for the pup and keep this for the Air Speed, what do you think?
;) ::) Same girl just a different dress. The only difference is the stock I think that another thread will just muddy the water. If it were a totally different platform it would make more sense but the major difference is the trigger setup once you scratch the surface it is still an Air Speed. Kind of like a Marauder with a bullpup stock at the end of the day it is still a Marauder.
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Looks good! The walnut is a nice touch. Can’t wait to hear what you think about it 🤔 Is that a Sumo you got on there already?
Guys I think we should open a new post just for the pup and keep this for the Air Speed, what do you think?
I was thinking the same thing as I was typing this🤔
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but I love reading about these guns, and I would vote a separate topic for the pup as well.
I will get mixed up on which is which if they stay in the same topic. Heck, I'll probably get mixed up anyway? LOL
Really enjoy all the testing you guys are doing with these bad boys!
Fuss
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I guess a separate thread it is then we maybe need a head to head comparison at some point just for S&G. I want to put at least a couple more tins through before I get out the Chony. I remember Travis saying that they pick up a little speed at they break in
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Looks good! The walnut is a nice touch. Can’t wait to hear what you think about it 🤔 Is that a Sumo you got on there already?
Hi Joekrooz thanks for the compliments! did pull a Sumo off one of my other airguns. Lol it also has a mag cover that the Air Speed don't have. Lol shoot it one time and you know why! Scoped and muted it weighs 9.9 lbs.
The hammer blow back got ya ? :) :)
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I would like to see groups at 50 to 75 yards. Thats my average
ground squirrel shot. :D
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When a year ago I moved to this place I was entertaining buying one of them Estern European wander guns because I have up to 200 yards possible shooting range here so I was envisioning some precision long distance target work,.....well, that dream got quickly crushed :) I though my old place was windy but this place is extremely windy and they never really stop, anything over 35-40 yards is a real struggle.
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For new owners please read
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=153555.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=153555.0)
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For new owners please read
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=153555.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=153555.0)
Ho boy, I checked the first 3 boxes on day one :) :)
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For new owners please read
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=153555.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=153555.0)
Ho boy, I checked the first 3 boxes on day one :) :)
I think the only ones you haven’t check are the ones related to cold weather ::)
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Some learn by reading the instructions first and then there are us manly types that read the instructions after we have a whoopsie. I think that Manny and I fall into the second category. I was able to check off the first three on day one also. In fact maybe 45 minutes into the first shooting session when I tried to see just how many full mags I could shoot before it started to fall off of poi (7 mags) on magazine #8 shot #3 went Braaaap and dumped the air charge to Zero PSI ;D ;D ;D
That's also when I learned that even with a 4500 psi air tank to charge you still need to recock the rifle or the poppet will not close enough to hold air in the air tube.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noM27rLVoWA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noM27rLVoWA)
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Exactly, got mine out of the box, aired it up, started trying to shoot some Discovery pellets, got jams, cleared, more jams, cleared, then all at once, Braaaatttt! WTH? Then tried to fill, and had the air coming out the barrel! WTH? But with the help of Travis, and you guys here, I've got mine settled down, and I understand it's operating requirements. Still waiting on the new improved 22 cal mags, but can drill the center hole out of a target at 20/30 yards, as fast as I can pull the trigger with my 2 stock mags and JSB 18's or H&N Sniper magnum 18gn. Mine sits in my kitchen, against the counter, next to the window that I took the screen out of, so when I have an uninvited critter in my yard, I just pop the window open, and promptly get them to leave the premises. ;D
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Same here, my Speed is kept at 120 BAR, a full magazine sitting beside it all ready to go :)
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Im going to test some slugs in the 177 after shot show and if it shoots them well the damage this spring during ground squirrel season will be EPIC!!!! They will have to call Guinness to add them up and put it in the book.
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;D I know that this does not prove much but I just tried an old army trick before loading a a full magazine of Benji domed 27 gr pellets into the Air Speed .25, I tapped the Mag on my shooting bench to seat the pellets all the way forward in the mag. I also used a very little Rem Oil to lube the pellets. The single target is 5 shots with very slight pause between shots the picture with the other two targets were full 9 shot mags also very slight pause between shots. I believe that front seating the pellets helped with the shot to shot accuracy.
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I also found that pellet lube works wonders with this platform. It’s increasses velocity and prevents hang ups.
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Yep, I lube my pellets with Ballistol and always make sure I seat them properly
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;D I know that this does not prove much but I just tried an old army trick before loading a a full magazine of Benji domed 27 gr pellets into the Air Speed .25, I tapped the Mag on my shooting bench to seat the pellets all the way forward in the mag. I also used a very little Rem Oil to lube the pellets. The single target is 5 shots with very slight pause between shots the picture with the other two targets were full 9 shot mags also very slight pause between shots. I believe that front seating the pellets helped with the shot to shot accuracy.
Looks very promising. What was the distance shot at Don?
Thanks .....Fuss
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It was only 10 meters but the target is a 10 meter AG target
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It was only 10 meters but the target is a 10 meter AG target
Thanks, I gotcha...too dang cold to go outside up there where you're at! ;D
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5 months later I can't be more happy with my Air Speed .22
I think I hit the jackpot by cutting my Hammer spring even before shooting one round and stubbornly deciding to use the cheap Crosman pellets.
I haven't yet put the JSAR kit in mine and I'm consistently getting sub Penny groups at 35 yards for a boatload of shots per fill :)
not a single problem since receiving the GEN II mags.
even killed a 50-60 # hog with it the other day
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=157572.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=157572.0)
Can't wait to see what difference the JSAR kit will make but in total honesty I could just leave the gun as is and would be a super happy camper and get a big smile on my face everytime I get her on the bench :)
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5 months later I can't be more happy with my Air Speed .22
I think I hit the jackpot by cutting my Hammer spring even before shooting one round and stubbornly deciding to use the cheap Crosman pellets.
I haven't yet put the JSAR kit in mine and I'm consistently getting sub Penny groups at 35 yards for a boatload of shots per fill :)
not a single problem since receiving the GEN II mags.
even killed a 50-60 # hog with it the other day
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=157572.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=157572.0)
Can't wait to see what difference the JSAR kit will make but in total honesty I could just leave the gun as is and would be a super happy camper and get a big smile on my face everytime I get her on the bench :)
Manny, Have you run it over a chrony? Just curious to see what kind of numbers you are getting from the 14.3 CPUM's. After Matt installed the kit and trimmed my hammer spring it's averaging 862.20 fps for 23.61 fps. To me that doesn't seem powerful enough to pursue hogs, but then again, I think you've shown shot placement seems to make a huge difference! :D
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5 months later I can't be more happy with my Air Speed .22
I think I hit the jackpot by cutting my Hammer spring even before shooting one round and stubbornly deciding to use the cheap Crosman pellets.
I haven't yet put the JSAR kit in mine and I'm consistently getting sub Penny groups at 35 yards for a boatload of shots per fill :)
not a single problem since receiving the GEN II mags.
even killed a 50-60 # hog with it the other day
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=157572.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=157572.0)
Can't wait to see what difference the JSAR kit will make but in total honesty I could just leave the gun as is and would be a super happy camper and get a big smile on my face everytime I get her on the bench :)
Manny, Have you run it over a chrony? Just curious to see what kind of numbers you are getting from the 14.3 CPUM's. After Matt installed the kit and trimmed my hammer spring it's averaging 862.20 fps for 23.61 fps. To me that doesn't seem powerful enough to pursue hogs, but then again, I think you've shown shot placement seems to make a huge difference! :D
Planning a Chrono session this week, I have a few guns I need to test.
24 FPE and a hard pellet is enough for a hog, I got a decent size one with the NP2 running at 20 FPE and that was a frontal shot which is a harder part of the skull.
with the Air Speed I hit the side and that is weaker and also the porker was smaller.
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And forgot to mention,.....pretty darn quiet in the woods ;)
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I think I just found the magic pellet for my Air Speed!!! Was messing around today and tried some of the different sized H&N Baracuda Match 21.14 grain pellets. Tried the regulars, the 5.51mm, the 5.52mm and the 5.53mm. The first 3 here okay, but the dang 5.53mm were stacking one on top of another. And I was able to reproduce the results.
The picture below is a 5 shot string shot from 37 yards. The target is 3” diameter. I think I have a winner!!! :D
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That sounds about right. My Rainstorm loves the 5.53s. Glad you found your magic pellet.
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That is great !!.... never overlook the H&N Baracudas :)
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Last night I had so much fun shooting cane toads, the powerful flash light turned the pellets into tracers ;D ;D
fast semi shooting was a blast on fleeing toads ;D
most shots where in the 50-80 yards range, correcting elevation was easy seeing the pellet in flight and the fast semi action would get me back on target quick,...lots of fun will get at it Sunday night again with a better sturdy shooting position.
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frogs...are you eating them ?? we are waiting for mid-may for our bullfrogs to come in eat'n season here. they get the largest legs now until september.
fried frog legs are awesome eats..... ;D
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frogs...are you eating them ?? we are waiting for mid-may for our bullfrogs to come in eat'n season here. they get the largest legs now until september.
fried frog legs are awesome eats..... ;D
Love eating frogs !!!....But no this are Cane Toads, poisonous and considered a huge pest here.
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frogs...are you eating them ?? we are waiting for mid-may for our bullfrogs to come in eat'n season here. they get the largest legs now until september.
fried frog legs are awesome eats..... ;D
Love eating frogs !!!....But no this are Cane Toads, poisonous and considered a huge pest here.
wow, so shoot'um up !!! ;)
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frogs...are you eating them ?? we are waiting for mid-may for our bullfrogs to come in eat'n season here. they get the largest legs now until september.
fried frog legs are awesome eats..... ;D
Love eating frogs !!!....But no this are Cane Toads, poisonous and considered a huge pest here.
... besides.... Manny has all that fresh hog ham to eat... why in the World would he eat a frog?
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frogs...are you eating them ?? we are waiting for mid-may for our bullfrogs to come in eat'n season here. they get the largest legs now until september.
fried frog legs are awesome eats..... ;D
Love eating frogs !!!....But no this are Cane Toads, poisonous and considered a huge pest here.
... besides.... Manny has all that fresh hog ham to eat... why in the World would he eat a frog?
frog legs are quite a delicacy. its an aquired taste.... ::)
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frogs...are you eating them ?? we are waiting for mid-may for our bullfrogs to come in eat'n season here. they get the largest legs now until september.
fried frog legs are awesome eats..... ;D
Love eating frogs !!!....But no this are Cane Toads, poisonous and considered a huge pest here.
wow, so shoot'um up !!! ;)
:) :) I'm gonna set a shooting platform on the second story of the house so I'll have a better view, yesterday was spur of the moment thing and didn't have much time, but from now on I'll be more organized :) also gonna fill the gun so I'll get 160+ shots :)
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frogs...are you eating them ?? we are waiting for mid-may for our bullfrogs to come in eat'n season here. they get the largest legs now until september.
fried frog legs are awesome eats..... ;D
Love eating frogs !!!....But no this are Cane Toads, poisonous and considered a huge pest here.
... besides.... Manny has all that fresh hog ham to eat... why in the World would he eat a frog?
Hahaha
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With a night vision scope, and an IR light, the eyes of the tree frogs we have here in Florida, light up orange! :D