Thanks MikeI am finding that hard to do, as so many of the less expensive scope models are restricted to duplex or BDC reticles by their manufacturer.The scope that comes closest to what I'm looking for is probably the AMX reticle in the AirMax line but they are much too expensive for me to populate my air rifle collection with.The best I can hope for it seems is something like a 12X scope with a mil dot reticle that subtends correctly at 10X. A Mil Dot with half-Mil hashes would be much better for me, but l don't know of any affordable ones outside of some Nikko Stirlings, and I don't know much about their quality beyond what I can infer from their low price and country of origin.The AMX reticle may be a little fine but its generally easy to use, and gives me enough graduated reticle to shoot past 100 yards with a 25 yard zero. It's a little heavier than I want, and certainly more expensive (pushing $300 pretty much everywhere) but it does work the way it should, and my lone 4-12 AirMax hasn't given me any trouble since I got it 2-3 years ago.ps - I recently had Vortex adjust the parallax to 50 yards on a 4-12 Copperhead with their BDC reticle.It's not a perfect solution but it did do a nice job of making an inexpensive scope "airgun appropriate" I think. Time will tell - I'll get it mounted on something and see how I like it after.some.practical use.
Ron, do your non-IR Vantange reticles have the same proportions as the one in my photo? Mine are almost the same size as the wire crosshair is. OK against paper, lost in trees, etc
Yours look just like mine.So, not an "out of spec" issue. Hopefully I'll find it as useful as you do.
Just received a new Vantage 4-12x40 AO with their Mil Dot reticle, and the dots themselves really just tiny bumps along the crosshairs, that barely protrude from the crosshair wire. They are not "defined", they are barely visible even against a contrasting background. A quick check against a wooded background showed me how badly the reticle dissappears, and will make this scope nearly useless in the woods.To all you Hawke people out there - is the reticle in thie pic below normal?Right now, I wish that I had bought a Burris Droptine for the same cost or an Athlon Argos for a few dollars more...