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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Big Bore AirGun Gate => Topic started by: DLP on February 09, 2019, 12:45:13 AM
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Having a bear of a time trying to remove the shroud and barrel off my .45 Hatsan Bully. I took the cap off and pulled the Oring, 2 curlers and cup out. Looks like the end of the barrel is not threaded and with a nut like my Flashpup is. There is a black collar or something between the barrel and shroud. I have tried very hard to unscrew the shroud from the block with no luck. With my Flashpup, I can twist the shroud and loosen the nut and threaded block with out using a socket. I have also taken out the 2 set grub screws from the top of the block and still can not pull or even rotate the barrel with the shroud. What am I missing? Thanks Darrell
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Didn’t get any response here. So maybe what I came up with might help someone else down the road. I was pretty sure the barrel was junk. So I went ahead and beefed, torked and cranked on the shroud with Channelocks. I locked the receiver in a vice. Took off the QE cap, Oring, 2 curlers and 1 cup. I also took the bottle/forearm cover off by loosening the 2 pinch bolts between the barrel and the scope rail. You do need to take out the 2 top bolts in the rail also. Then th cover slides off. Took out the 2 barrel retaining grub screws and went to work with the Channelocks. I used a rubber jar/can top opener as padding under the Channelocks jaws to save marring the shroud’s paint. After what I thought was going past the point of no return, the shroud popped and came loose. That was it! Unscrewed the shroud from the recever and slid it off the barrel. The black metal collar that I saw between the muzzle and the shroud was a screw-on Oringed collar that kept the barrel centered in the shroud. The barrel itself just slides out of the reciever. But be careful not to damage the 2 orings on the end. They are on either side of the barrel port.
So there is a difference between the Flashpup shroud and the Bully shroud. The Flashpup has a slide-on shroud with a 14mm nut to hold it to the barrel. The Bully has no nut and the shroud screws into the reciever.
Things I did to my Bully:
Removed the flexing scope rail, removed the tank cover, cut off the second rail tower, removed the QE shroud and internals. Planning on adding a can. With the Oring spacer, Air can not pass back through the shroud like the other QE systems that have the 14mm nut with holes in it. Mounted a solid Dovetail to picatinny riser on the reciever. No more long scope rail.
As I mentioned earlier, the barrel is junk. Factory sized for using .454 Hatsan slugs. Well I dropped one in the barrel and it slid 3/4 of the way through on its own. Didn’t take much to push it the rest of the way with a cleaning rod. No rifling on the slug. A little shinny all the way around. But no true rifling marks. When you look in the barrel, the rifling looks like very fine scratches. Reminds me of a shot-out barrel. I will be trying to contact Hatson about getting a new one.
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Good to know, never owned a hatsun,probably won't after reading this, but then again if one came along at the right price,you never know,
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Do you have any pictures of what you've done thus far? And do you mind keeping us updated; I'm seriously thinking about getting the Hatsan Bully in .45, so all the information is greatly appreciated.
My biggest concern at this point (well now is the barrel lol) was the fact that the last two barrel bands were connected to the tank housing, which is separate from the stock and allowed flexing. You removed this?
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Yes I removed the tank cover. I might add a tank band with Picatinny rail for a sling stud. Working with Neil to purchase a LDC for the rifle. I have pictures. But I was too lazy to learn how to post them. Pm me your email and I will send them to ya.. you can post them if you like. I know, I need to learn to post pix!
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To add photos, click on the "Attachment and other options" below your text box, click on "Add Files" and select from your list. Easy-peasey!
pv
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My Hatsan Nova in .25 had the worst barrel I have ever seen on an ag. No excuse for such poor quality. Terrible crown. Non existent dede, adn rifling that looked like spider webbing. Wouldn't hold better then 9 inches at 30 yarde. I "Never" will own another Hatsan! Over all the action, machining, finish, pitiful!
Knife.
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To add photos, click on the "Attachment and other options" below your text box, click on "Add Files" and select from your list. Easy-peasey!
pv
I posted my verbage and then hit the options box. Picked my pictures but that is as far as I can get. This is the same as another forum I use. And it wors fine there. Guess I will have to dig deeper. Thanks
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Tried again. I fineally got a pop up say file to large. Now if I can figure out how to change its size.
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My Hatsan Nova in .25 had the worst barrel I have ever seen on an ag. No excuse for such poor quality. Terrible crown. Non existent dede, adn rifling that looked like spider webbing. Wouldn't hold better then 9 inches at 30 yarde. I "Never" will own another Hatsan! Over all the action, machining, finish, pitiful!
Knife.
That sounds like a pretty horrible experience. I get where people get weary after being bitten, but if I swore off every product after a single bad experience then I wouldn't be driving any cars, trucks, bikes; shooting any guns, using electronics, or dating any women lol. But I do understand the bad taste one can get.
The redeeming factor that Hatsan has going for them (at least for me) is their innovation. Especially where the Bully is concerned. You have a big bore with a side lever that you can actually operate without breaking your cheek weld, and it's magazine fed with a lot of power right out of the box. And from my experience those numbers aren't massaged like that of most other manufactures that use pellets made out of tin, or whatever they do to market higher FPS.
Luckily I haven't run into any real quality problems with the rifles I own from them, but I will definitely be diligently checking out the barrels from this point forward when I purchase a new one! And I'll only be purchasing them from somewhere were they have that year warranty.
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If you first EM them to yourself you should be able to resize them before you hit the send button.
pv
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Pictures. I email a picture from my iPhone to my em address. I do not get the option of sending size. If I send an em to any other em address, it does pop up and ask what size I would like to send. Maybe being my iPhone, I watch and iPad are all linked, it might be the issue. I will try sending a picture t
From my work phone to my iPad later. It’s got to be something simple.
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Well I got the new .45 barrel today. Had to remove about .002” of metal/paint and or blueing off the reciever end of the barrel so it would slide into the reciever. Just used Emery cloth and worked it by hand. Cleaned the barrel real good and set up a target. It was dark by the time I got it all together and tested. But I put a flashlight pointing at the target at 30 yards. I could see well enough to shoot a couple groups. Will need to finish sighting it in this weekend. But I am very happy with the new barrel so far. First 3 shots were low but all touching. Cranked up the scope a little too far for the next 3 shots. But they too are all touching. Just waiting on Niel’s LDC and I will be ready to do a little Yote hunting. Still working on pictures.
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Other then being upside down, it’s a picture!
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Most photo viewers on laptops can resize the photo. I downloaded a free batch sizer to do many photos at a time as other forums and craigslist require smaller photo size. 480x680 is a good size picture and will work on any forum. People forget how huge pictures are nowaday. 1, 4, 10 megapixel photos are insanely large if viewed full size.
Instead of resizing photos, if you know it's for forum use or craiglist ads just take the photo in 480x680 with camera. Don't know if phones can take smaller pictures but any digital camera can be preset for size.
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Got to do a little more testing at lunch time. This is 50 yards in about 20 mph wind. Had to hurry. But I have an idea of what to expect.