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Fun Shoot By State Discussion Gate => Discussions By States => Georgia Fun Shooting Events => Topic started by: jc1234 on August 25, 2016, 04:42:28 PM
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The shoot will start at 8:00AM and go until the last person leaves. targets will be provided as well as some food and drinks, I will have two tables, one canopy and several chairs as well. There will be targets from 20'-150', and I'm working on a 200' target as well but I don't know if it will be dune in time for the shoot. everyone is invited and you can bring your friends as well.
The address for the shoot is:
568 ts Jarrard RD
Dahlonega, GA 30533
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I'm going to really try to make this one.
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I will try to be there early now that I know where it is. What do you want me to bring? Drinks , hotdogs or buns? Make a list so anyone who wants to bring stuff won't bring the same stuff.
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I'm going to really try to make this one.
You really should try and make it Norman. Jesse did a good job setting up his range, and it is fun to shoot at with all the different fixed target stations. I'm sure you'll especially enjoy the 100 and 150 yard targets :D
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Jesse I can bring canopies and a couple tables again. Dogs and burgers were pretty good last time!!
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Yep, the dogs and burgers were quite tasty last time. I really like dogs and burgers, so it works out great for me :D I will try and bring a little extra meat for the grill. I have a special recipe for some very tasty, and spicy chicken breast "fillets" we could throw on there if you guys want?
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I'm going to try and make it. I'd probably drive up on Sat the 8th and spend the night somewhere. Any motel suggestions?
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I will try to be there early now that I know where it is. What do you want me to bring? Drinks , hotdogs or buns? Make a list so anyone who wants to bring stuff won't bring the same stuff.
That will be perfect, If you could bring the drinks I think Donny wants to bring some food and I will bring some food as well.
I will have breakfast covered as well, I hope everyone loves bacon ;D
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I'm going to really try to make this one.
I hope you can make it, you were missed at the last shoot.
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I'm going to try and make it. I'd probably drive up on Sat the 8th and spend the night somewhere. Any motel suggestions?
there are several hotels and rental cabins in Dahlonega and even a rental cabin on the same road as the shoot but if you want to save some money you are more than welcome to camp at the field. I have everything at the field already so if you want to get there and shoot that Saturday I will shoot with you. that invite goes for everyone, if you what to camp out the field and shoot on Saturday as will you are more than welcome, I even have fire wood available and there is a small kitchen in the building.
If you want I will PM you the contact info for the local hotels and rental cabins.
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I have to hook up to a machine to sleep so camping isn't an option. You can PM me if you like or pop here in the thread so others could see it. Either way. :)
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October is the busiest month for Dahlonega and Hellen so it is extremely hard to find a hotel or cabin that month so you need to book as soon as posable. You my want to consenter renting a small generator and sleep at the field, if you don't have camping equipment you can stay in the building.
This is the website for the cabins
https://www.vrbo.com/vacation-rentals/usa/georgia/northeast-mountains/dahlonega (https://www.vrbo.com/vacation-rentals/usa/georgia/northeast-mountains/dahlonega)
and these are the hotels in Dahlonega and there numbers
Days Inn 706-864-2338
Quality Inn 706-864-6191
Holiday Inn 706-8647777
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Does that mean I might take out one of those cyclists on my way to the meet? My truck is kinda big and I can't really see over my hood. :)
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Take it easy Trinh... As a part time cyclist who has seen too many acquaintances run over and killed... this is a bit sensitive issue. I understand the annoyance that big groups of cyclist cause, but still....
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Nevermind..No need for comment
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I used to ride 80-100 miles a week after work, and on a mountain bike with semi-street tires. I lost 40lbs that way! However, I also drive through the mountains a lot with work, and have been purposely blocked myself. I feel people's pain on the rude cyclist front, and I'm sure Trinh was just joking around and meant no harm :) But, not to get off subject...
So, did you do any checking into the "room and board" situation Glen? Who all is going for sure? I'm going for sure myself! I enjoyed the hanging out with everyone just as much as the shooting last time. Hopefully, I'll be able to stay longer this time.
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Donny I will see you at Jesse's. You can shoot my Bullboss and and see how it compares to yous. Mine is throwing 21gn Cudas at 930 fps and I am pretty happy with the trigger now. I still can't believe how quiet it is at 40 ft lbs
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Donny I will see you at Jesse's. You can shoot my Bullboss and and see how it compares to yous. Mine is throwing 21gn Cudas at 930 fps and I am pretty happy with the trigger now. I still can't believe how quiet it is at 40 ft lbs
Sounds like you got it doing exactly what you planned on it doing. Good job! Did you try throwing that #8 o-ring in there? I don't know how much difference it would make on a gun shooting 40fpe in .22 though. I'm sure it is shooting good and accurate with the cudas too :)
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This is rapidly becoming a Hatsan dominated group, any more of us get one and I will have to change the name of the range from airgunsonlyga to hatsansonlyga.
Trinh, you do have to be careful up here in the mountains because of the cyclist, I can't count how many times I have came around a blind curve to find a couple of them riding side by side in the road. When I get to those curves I slow way down just in case. The reason it is so busy in October is the leaves are very colorful and a lot of people come up for the beautiful trees, during that time of year you have to worry much more about going around a curve and finding a car stoped in the road and someone taking a picture of a really colorful tree. And yes I have had went around a blind curve and found a car completely stopped in the road to take a picture, thank God for good breaks and stain resistant pants. :o
For those of you that ride the mountains I tip my hat to you, that is extremely hard work. I tried riding with a friend about a year ago and thought I was going to die, I enjoyed it but after I found out how much those bikes cost I decided it just wasn't for me.
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I checked into the cabin link and from what I could tell most, if not all, require a 2 night minimum stay so I'll probably go the hotel route. If I have to I might find something a bit South of Jesse and just leave from there. Of course I still don't have a job yet so we'll have to see how this all pans out. At least I got my car back from the shop so that helps.
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Take it easy Trinh... As a part time cyclist who has seen too many acquaintances run over and killed... this is a bit sensitive issue. I understand the annoyance that big groups of cyclist cause, but still....
Jim, it was meant as a joke primarily for those who hasn't been to Jesse. As the fall season comes, I am pretty sure it would be packed more than the last time I was there. Figured, I would make it a warning to those coming up.
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Glenn, worst case scenario. You are welcome to come stay at my place. I have couple of rooms that are not being used. However on Sat., my family usually go out for dinner and don't come back till 9-10pm.
I checked into the cabin link and from what I could tell most, if not all, require a 2 night minimum stay so I'll probably go the hotel route. If I have to I might find something a bit South of Jesse and just leave from there. Of course I still don't have a job yet so we'll have to see how this all pans out. At least I got my car back from the shop so that helps.
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Thanks for the invitation. As I'm looking at dates I just realized I have a conference I'd like to attend the 7th and 8th in Spartenburg, SC and if I can swing that I'll actually be coming to the shoot from the northeast.
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Glen, you're making this too complicated,lol! I'm just messing with you of course :D If we have a turnout like last time, its going to be a good time.
I'm anxious to see Trinh's new gun, and the Condor-ish that Jesse has built. Maybe Norman will bring the Galatian too. I think that gun is going to be a heck of a shooter. There were so many cool guns to play with last time for sure. My favorite part is seeing all the stuff everyone else brings.
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It's funny how stuff comes back to you. So this is a church denominational regional meeting and they happen about 3 times a year or so. The last one was in Douglasville, GA and when it finished I had my brand new Gladius in the car and drove all the way across town to Lithonia to meet up with Norman and Donny to shoot. But we spent more time waiting on the rain to stop than shooting so I eventually left. Norman said that right after I left the rain quit and the two of them shot for hours. I guess I'm finding a way to tie these church meetings in with shooting w/friends. Funny how the dates just work out like that.
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Glen, you're making this too complicated,lol! I'm just messing with you of course :D If we have a turnout like last time, its going to be a good time.
I'm anxious to see Trinh's new gun, and the Condor-ish that Jesse has built. Maybe Norman will bring the Galatian too. I think that gun is going to be a heck of a shooter. There were so many cool guns to play with last time for sure. My favorite part is seeing all the stuff everyone else brings.
So its a battle between Turkish, U.S., and British guns. I think we should make it a little more interesting. Best shooter wins a can of pellet. Everyone who competes chipped in for one can. :). Thats what we used to do when we play tennis (winner gets a can of balls).
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I only have one can of pellets. :) But I wouldn't compete anyway. I need to spend more time tweaking.
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I only shoot good when it doesn't count :D
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I only have one can of pellets. :) But I wouldn't compete anyway. I need to spend more time tweaking.
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There will be time for both, it will be fun.
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I only shoot good when it doesn't count :D
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This pretty much is just for fun, and instead of pellets as the prize how about one of my spinner targets.
I think we need to open the friendly competition to everybody and have two classes a short range and and a long range change. I have target stands at 25', 35',and 50' for the short range and long range targets at 80',100', and 150'. The challenge will be to hit all the spinners at each stand, a miss will get you one point the person with the fewest points in the end wins. What do y'all think
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That sounds like fun to me. I don't want the spinner, but I'll shoot in the "competition". My targets have to be quiet where I live, and the ranges I have are too close to make it a challenge.... Not that it matters, because I probably won't win, but I'll have good excuse when I miss. "The wind gusted just then when I shot", haha.
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I'll try to make this shoot since it's about 30 miles from me.
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I'm actually thinking of selling 2 of my rifles. Things have came up and the .30 bt-65 and .257 condor might be up for sale.
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Does anyone need a in date scba tank? Just had it hydro tested in June?
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I'm in the market for a tank. What are we talking? How big? How old? How much? Does it come w/fittings?
I got a few of those high visibility splatter type targets I can donate to the cause. They're a bit bigger than the ones Norman uses.
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Tony, if you want to come up one weekend and shoot just let me know, like you sed you are only 30mins away.
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Hey Jesse what's going to be the closest town, let's say no more than an hour away, coming from Spartenburg, SC with a good hotel selection? Is Gainesville about the biggest town up there? I've not been to that part of the state much at all. I've been to a resort at Demorest twice and that's it. I'll be leaving Spartenburg after lunch so I'll end up around there probably mid afternoon. I have a good friend that lives in Tiger, GA and I might swing by and hang out w/him on Saturday if he's up for it. Maybe I could crash there too.
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Gainesville, Dawsonville would be fairly close an reasonable since octoberfest is going on in helen.
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Jesse I think I will take you up on that idea.
Tony, if you want to come up one weekend and shoot just let me know, like you sed you are only 30mins away.
I think I'll take you up on that idea
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Hey Jesse what's going to be the closest town, let's say no more than an hour away, coming from Spartenburg, SC with a good hotel selection? Is Gainesville about the biggest town up there? I've not been to that part of the state much at all. I've been to a resort at Demorest twice and that's it. I'll be leaving Spartenburg after lunch so I'll end up around there probably mid afternoon. I have a good friend that lives in Tiger, GA and I might swing by and hang out w/him on Saturday if he's up for it. Maybe I could crash there too.
I would try Cleveland or Cornelia, both are on the way form Spartanburg. Cleveland will be the best because it is only 20 mins from the field but you will need to book early because it is vary close to Hellen. Cornelia is about 50mins from me but I don't know what the hotels look like there.
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My very first castings for the Slayer .357 . Can't wait to try them out and compare them to some of the bullets I bought.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/purpleGORILLA/B3447AF0-AFB1-442B-88EF-842B7524B72E_zpsopogagc7.jpg)
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I didn't know you were getting into casting. Looking good.
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My very first castings for the Slayer .357 . Can't wait to try them out and compare them to some of the bullets I bought.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/purpleGORILLA/B3447AF0-AFB1-442B-88EF-842B7524B72E_zpsopogagc7.jpg)
Shiny!
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Those are really pretty. What's the weights running for each?? They staying pretty consistent?
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Those are really pretty. What's the weights running for each?? They staying pretty consistent?
These are 125 gr. However they are .358, I am planning to size them down to .357. This is my first time. I don't think I heat the mold up long enough. Will play with them some more.
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I didn't know you were getting into casting. Looking good.
Yes I remembered you said you sold all of your casting equipments. I have had them for a while but couldn't find the right size mold. Finally found one on eBay.
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These are 125 gr. However they are .358, I am planning to size them down to .357. This is my first time. I don't think I heat the mold up long enough. Will play with them some more.
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Before you buy the sizing die you well need to slug the bore, .358 my already be to small. A to small cast bullet will cause excessive led fowling.
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Before you buy the sizing die you well need to slug the bore, .358 my already be to small. A to small cast bullet will cause excessive led fowling.
Thanks for the tip.
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How do you guys protect the "bluing" [wink, wink] on your Hatsan rifles to prevent rusting, especially if they get a little damp? Right now, I'm using Turtle Wax spray, but I haven't got them wet yet.
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I've heard good things about Renaissance Wax. Some people like frog lube. I personally just wipe it off if it gets wet, and then wipe it down with a lightly oiled rag a little later. I have been meaning to give that Renaissance a try though. The air cylinders on mine have seemed to be the weak spot on the guns. They seem to try and accumulate rust faster than everything else.
As a matter of fact, I think I'll order some of that wax right now from Amazon :D
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I have three Hatsans and I wipe them down immediately after use with a light oily rag. When I received my Hatsan 125 it already had some light surface rust onthe barrel. I cleaned it down well and covered the minor rust spots with a black majic marker. After drying a light coat of oil with a rag, and good to go.
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I ordered some of that Renaissance Wax. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I also found some Boelube! I didn't realize they still made that stuff. I had some years ago and loved it, but didn't know where to find it. It just so happens Amazon has that too :)
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I ordered some of that Renaissance Wax. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I also found some Boelube! I didn't realize they still made that stuff. I had some years ago and loved it, but didn't know where to find it. It just so happens Amazon has that too :)
Renaissance Wax looks like good stuff. I will be looking forward to your report. Does Boelube have and airgun application, as well?
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I ordered some of that Renaissance Wax. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I also found some Boelube! I didn't realize they still made that stuff. I had some years ago and loved it, but didn't know where to find it. It just so happens Amazon has that too :)
Renaissance Wax looks like good stuff. I will be looking forward to your report. Does Boelube have and airgun application, as well?
I probably should have clarified the Boelube that I purchased. There are two different types of it. One is a machining lube kind of like a wax or paste. The other is a sort of oil that can be used in many of the same things as regular 3 in 1 oil. It is liquid at first and will go in between parts as a liquid, but then the liquid turns into a dry wax type lubricant. It's great, because it doesn't attract dirt and debris. I ordered the second type. They sell it as a bicycle chain lubricant, but it is the exact same stuff as I had years ago. It was developed by Boeing for use on aircraft, and unlike petroleum based lubricants, it won't harm non-metal things like rubber and plastic.
Here's the machine lubricant:
https://www.amazon.com/BOELUBE-Machining-Lubricant-70302-12-Container/dp/B0186JU006/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1473213003&sr=8-11&keywords=boelube (https://www.amazon.com/BOELUBE-Machining-Lubricant-70302-12-Container/dp/B0186JU006/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1473213003&sr=8-11&keywords=boelube)
Here's the regular "oil" type that I ordered:
https://www.amazon.com/Boeshield-T-9-Waterproof-Lubrication-liquid/dp/B000GE1F9K/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1473213003&sr=8-12&keywords=boelube (https://www.amazon.com/Boeshield-T-9-Waterproof-Lubrication-liquid/dp/B000GE1F9K/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1473213003&sr=8-12&keywords=boelube)
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Here's the machine lubricant:
https://www.amazon.com/BOELUBE-Machining-Lubricant-70302-12-Container/dp/B0186JU006/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1473213003&sr=8-11&keywords=boelube (https://www.amazon.com/BOELUBE-Machining-Lubricant-70302-12-Container/dp/B0186JU006/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1473213003&sr=8-11&keywords=boelube)
Here's the regular "oil" type that I ordered:
https://www.amazon.com/Boeshield-T-9-Waterproof-Lubrication-liquid/dp/B000GE1F9K/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1473213003&sr=8-12&keywords=boelube (https://www.amazon.com/Boeshield-T-9-Waterproof-Lubrication-liquid/dp/B000GE1F9K/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1473213003&sr=8-12&keywords=boelube)
Great info! Thanks.
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So my chinese compressor gave out. I tried to rebuild it with no instructions and now it is even worst. I have no SCBA tank that is recent enough for a hydro. Having no access to air for PCP is like having no cars. I am so tempted just to call up Joe Barranco and order one of his compressor but I just can't justify 3-4k. Going to check with a fire depart near my son school to see if they can fill to 4500psi and how much. If they do, I might just buy couple of SCBA tanks instead.
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I'm glad I have a manual pump for mine, despite the heavy breathing that goes along with the 50 pumps at a time.
Sorry about the demise of your compressor. Hope you can find something to replace it soon. It's awful not being able to shoot your favorite gun.
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So my chinese compressor gave out. I tried to rebuild it with no instructions and now it is even worst. I have no SCBA tank that is recent enough for a hydro. Having no access to air for PCP is like having no cars. I am so tempted just to call up Joe Barranco and order one of his compressor but I just can't justify 3-4k. Going to check with a fire depart near my son school to see if they can fill to 4500psi and how much. If they do, I might just buy couple of SCBA tanks instead.
Major bummer! Sorry. What kind of compressor did you have? MRodAir, maybe?
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So my chinese compressor gave out. I tried to rebuild it with no instructions and now it is even worst. I have no SCBA tank that is recent enough for a hydro. Having no access to air for PCP is like having no cars. I am so tempted just to call up Joe Barranco and order one of his compressor but I just can't justify 3-4k. Going to check with a fire depart near my son school to see if they can fill to 4500psi and how much. If they do, I might just buy couple of SCBA tanks instead.
Trinh,
I have a Shoebox that's been sitting in a box for almost two years. I can let you use it but I'm sure it will need maintenance. I have a rebuild kit for it. I got it used but it worked fine the last time I used it but I was too impatient to wait 4+ hours for it to fill from 3-4.5k.
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Thanks for the offer Norman. I think I am just going to bite the bullet and get a compressor somewhere. I just went to check the local fire department and they said they don' t fill SCBA tanks and don't even know if any station in metro Atlanta that does it. The worst thing about the compressor, when it gave out, it also leaked all the air 4000 psi I had saved up. LOL.
This is not MRodAir compressor, it is named HAITAO. It is actually a pretty good compressor for the 8 months I had. :o. But now it won't hold air when I open the SCBA tank. So somewhere there is a check valve or something that is not working right, because all the air would escape back into the compressor and goes through the coolant. Kind of like a busted headgaskets in a car. >:(
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Thanks for the offer Norman. I think I am just going to bite the bullet and get a compressor somewhere. I just went to check the local fire department and they said they don' t fill SCBA tanks and don't even know if any station in metro Atlanta that does it. The worst thing about the compressor, when it gave out, it also leaked all the air 4000 psi I had saved up. LOL.
This is not MRodAir compressor, it is named HAITAO. It is actually a pretty good compressor for the 8 months I had. :o. But now it won't hold air when I open the SCBA tank. So somewhere there is a check valve or something that is not working right, because all the air would escape back into the compressor and goes through the coolant. Kind of like a busted headgaskets in a car. >:(
Ok make sure you read up on the AireTex 45 before you buy something. I've been researching and it seems it requires service a lot less than others based on use. They are made for heavy use in dive and paintball shops. They are out in Texas so so support should not be a problem. You might also consider a nitrogen set-up if you don't want to buy a compressor.
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Thanks for the offer Norman. I think I am just going to bite the bullet and get a compressor somewhere. I just went to check the local fire department and they said they don' t fill SCBA tanks and don't even know if any station in metro Atlanta that does it. The worst thing about the compressor, when it gave out, it also leaked all the air 4000 psi I had saved up. LOL.
This is not MRodAir compressor, it is named HAITAO. It is actually a pretty good compressor for the 8 months I had. :o. But now it won't hold air when I open the SCBA tank. So somewhere there is a check valve or something that is not working right, because all the air would escape back into the compressor and goes through the coolant. Kind of like a busted headgaskets in a car. >:(
If you're in the Hotlanter area, what about the high pressure nitrogen tank rental that Norman suggested a while back? I forget where he said, but it sounded like a good deal - much better than available on the southside and below.
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I'm in! Just booked a room in Toccoa, GA. Should be about an hour drive to Dahlonaga the next day. I might just spin up to Helen, about 40 min away from Toccoa, and check out some big pretzels and bratwurst on Saturday!
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I'm in! Just booked a room in Toccoa, GA. Should be about an hour drive to Dahlonaga the next day. I might just spin up to Helen, about 40 min away from Toccoa, and check out some big pretzels and bratwurst on Saturday!
Saturday in Helen during Oktoberfest. You're a brave man. :)
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Wouldn't that be THE time to go to Helen? Should I just park at Toccoa and walk? ;) :( Seriously, if it's just a gaggle of drunk rednecks, I'll pass.
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Wouldn't that be THE time to go to Helen? Should I just park at Toccoa and walk? ;) :( Seriously, if it's just a gaggle of drunk rednecks, I'll pass.
Lots of traffic all day long and lots of people. To me, Helen is a caricature of what I imagine a real Bavarian village would be like. Still, it can be fun, if that sort of thing is what you enjoy. I'm not exactly an expert, though, because that sort of thing isn't quite my sort of thing. I think I'd rather be in Dahlonega at a BBQ/Fun Shoot with fellow airgunners, but that's just me, so don't let me spoil your fun.
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Well the air gun shoot is Sunday. I need something to do on Saturday. I've been to Bravaria so I've got the real thing checked off the list. I have an old friend that lives in Tiger and I'm seeing if he'll meet me there for a bit. Maybe I can even convince him to come to the shoot the next day. He's a powder burner guy though; don't know if he'll be interested or not.
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I'm glad you're going to be able to make Glen! I know you've been in need of some "trigger therapy" :D
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I'm in! Just booked a room in Toccoa, GA. Should be about an hour drive to Dahlonaga the next day. I might just spin up to Helen, about 40 min away from Toccoa, and check out some big pretzels and bratwurst on Saturday!
There will be more dui check points coming out if Helen than you can shake a stick at. There is only 2 ways in and out of Helen and both will be having dui check points somewhere coming out of there. Just a heads up. I live 20 mins from Helen and my kids mom bartends up there.
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Well maybe I should just grab a hotdog and a bag of pretzels in Toccoa. ;) I don't need to go to Helen, in fact that's just adding about 1.5 hours of driving to my day.
Donny you don't know how much I'm looking forward to this. This far out and I'm already hoping the weather is good. It's still 96 here today!
Jessie I can find something to bring to help out w/food, etc. What do you still need?
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I'm going to try and make it.
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If you're in the Hotlanter area, what about the high pressure nitrogen tank rental that Norman suggested a while back? I forget where he said, but it sounded like a good deal - much better than available on the southside and below.
It has crossed my mind until Norman said it weights over 500 lbs.
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Mines down to 4300 psi so it will soon be time for another weight lifting session.. ???
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Doesn't airgas do the steel nitrogen tanks? 6000psi if I'm not mistaken? We used to get them when I was working in a stamping plant to use in the dies nitrogen cylinders to help form parts. I think they sell the cylinders and it's a swap out after that. A couple of those Daisy chained together would be alot of air. I've been using s local dive shop, but he's only going 4300-4400 psi in my tanks.
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Yes Airgas loan them out too, as does Sidney Lee welding company. I got the best deal at Palmers Welding but they don't deliver/swap out at residences.
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Sorry I was absent for so long, I had a lot of personal stuff to dell with lately.
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I'm in! Just booked a room in Toccoa, GA. Should be about an hour drive to Dahlonaga the next day. I might just spin up to Helen, about 40 min away from Toccoa, and check out some big pretzels and bratwurst on Saturday!
Glad you are coming, You are more than welcome to come shoot and hang out on Saturday but I recommend staying away from Helen on weekends in October. I recommend Dahlonega instead, a lot less crowded and there is some really good food on the square, not to mention the Fudge Factory.
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Wouldn't that be THE time to go to Helen? Should I just park at Toccoa and walk? ;) :( Seriously, if it's just a gaggle of drunk rednecks, I'll pass.
The rednecks stay clear of Helen on the weekend for the most part. If you do go there go at night, that is the best time but I worn you, you might wakeup to find your self propped up agents a building on a back street missing a shoe and with a bad headache.
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Well maybe I should just grab a hotdog and a bag of pretzels in Toccoa. ;) I don't need to go to Helen, in fact that's just adding about 1.5 hours of driving to my day.
Donny you don't know how much I'm looking forward to this. This far out and I'm already hoping the weather is good. It's still 96 here today!
Jessie I can find something to bring to help out w/food, etc. What do you still need?
I think it is all taken care of at this point.
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I'm going to try and make it.
I hope you can, the first one was a blast ant this one is shaping up to be even better.
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Doesn't airgas do the steel nitrogen tanks? 6000psi if I'm not mistaken? We used to get them when I was working in a stamping plant to use in the dies nitrogen cylinders to help form parts. I think they sell the cylinders and it's a swap out after that. A couple of those Daisy chained together would be alot of air. I've been using s local dive shop, but he's only going 4300-4400 psi in my tanks.
Thats ware I get my nitrogen tanks at, they won't sell you the tanks but you can lease them a year at a time.
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Ok make sure you read up on the AireTex 45 before you buy something. I've been researching and it seems it requires service a lot less than others based on use. They are made for heavy use in dive and paintball shops. They are out in Texas so so support should not be a problem. You might also consider a nitrogen set-up if you don't want to buy a compressor.
Norman - Any idea what those things run? Every item in their catalog says to call for pricing. I'm pretty sure it's out of my league, but I would still like to know the ballpark.
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They are priced around $3000-3500 like most of the heavy use dive compressors. I've talked to a couple of paintball shops that swear by them. I was told they could be used twice as much as other heavy duty compressors before service is required.
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Had a fun shoot today with JC, even though it rained the entire time, it was alot of fun. Looking forward to the cookout shoot and meeting more members on here.
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I'm starting to think the rain gods know when people are shooting up there at Jesse's place,lol!
Oh, and I got my Renaissance Wax in the mail a few days ago guys. I put it on my gun, but haven't been in an environment that will allow me to "test" it yet. It seems like it should work well though. I'm counting down the days until the shoot.
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I've been planning all week to get out and shoot today. I got some Eagle Vision adjustable mounts. They are like the FX No Limit mounts except they will fit a picatinny/weaver rail. My plans were to extend the zero of the cricket from 50 yards to 150 yards to do some long range plinking. As soon as I got out and set everything up-the rain came.
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If it makes you feel any better, I had to drive back from 3 hours away in South GA in it.
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We got no rain.
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We got a little last night. Not enough though. It's been so dry my grass is crunchy, and I've only seen ONE squirrel in the past couple of months.
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I don't think it really stopped raining any yesterday from 2pm to 6:30pm. I did enjoy shooting his valcan at 150 yards. That was my first time shooting a regged rifle and I might have a found a new addiction. I also see why you need a bubble level for shooting now. I'll be investing in one for my condor here shortly.
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Well I my have just screwed up, I just sold the Vulcan :'(
but I now have a .22 impact on the way ;D
hopefully the impact will be as accurate as the Vulcan
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Well I my have just scoured up, I just sold the Vulcan :'(
but I now have a .22 impact on the way ;D
hopefully the impact will be as accurate as the Vulcan
You certainly don't have loyalty to any airguns ;D. Did you see the video Matt Dubber post when his friend nailed a critter at 158 yards with his 22 Impact?
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Well I my have just screwed up, I just sold the Vulcan :'(
but I now have a .22 impact on the way ;D
hopefully the impact will be as accurate as the Vulcan
Looking forward to hearing about your experience with it!
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That Vulcan was sweet but I am really looking forward to seeing the Impact. I have always admired the Impact form factor and I am sure the performance will be awesome, even in the rain (always) at your place... :D
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This group is my 'gateway' to a variety of PCPs and I've yet to shoot an FX so I'm happy for you too! :) Man, the way this weather is going maybe by Oct 9th it'll drop way down into the mid 80's!
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I was vary sad to see the Vulcan go, I almost didn't let him buy it but he convinced me that it was going to a good home. I got a phone call about a hour after he picked up the Vulcan and he told me that he had already killed a squirrel with it. I'm excited about the Impact, I should get it late next week, I can't weight to try 150 with a .22.
I am sure the performance will be awesome, even in the rain (always) at your place... :D
Im hoping it won't rain on us again.
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You certainly don't have loyalty to any airguns ;D. Did you see the video Matt Dubber post when his friend nailed a critter at 158 yards with his 22 Impact?
I did see that video, that one and a cupel other videos Matt did on the impact is the reason I decided to go with the impact over another Vulcan. I wanted it in .25 but there is a 5 month waiting list right now and they had an almost new .22 come in the prevues day and I jumped on it. I was going to get the .22 barrel anyway so now I just have the get the .25 barrel when they come back in-stock and don't have to weight 5 months for my gun.
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And you can always step it up to a .30 too. That's the one thing I love about the impact is 1 platform and you have 3 rifles with a barrel and probe change. Looking forward to meeting everyone in 2 weeks. What kind of food and drinks need to be brought?
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Congrats on the Impact. Can't wait to see in person . I am starting to see the leaves changing . It's gonna be nice and cool. What happen if a tree rat decided to cross our path at the range?
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Any tree rat dumb enough to do that would probably have a bad day. If you shoot it, you gotta clean it and eat it,lol! Trinh, have you shot that new gun of yours yet??
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I was at jesse range today, we were shooting my Jager XP 30 caliber, 80 yards same hole ,100 yard 2 inch group, 150 yards broke a 2 inch spinner off ,44 grain JSB 960 fps.
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The illegal dumpers have been very busy at the shooting spot. They have completely filled up the parking area with trash. :'(
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Man, people are just crappy... I'd come help you clean it up, if my weekends weren't completely slammed :( I won't have a free weekend until the shoot on the 9th.
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I can't believe 2 weeks and it'll be over! Folks that dump are thieves.
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I was out there couple of weeks ago at Norman's corner one Sunday morning to get some of the guns sighted in. After pulling in and walking back from setting up one of the target. A Lady Dekalb friendly pulled in. She was nice, she thought I was trying to do some illegal dumping but I told her I was trying to get my pellet guns sigthted.
Any tree rat dumb enough to do that would probably have a bad day. If you shoot it, you gotta clean it and eat it,lol! Trinh, have you shot that new gun of yours yet??
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Trinh did you ever get any trigger time for your RAW? How do you like it so far?
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I sure did. I zeroed that gun to 100 yards. I will definitely bring it to the meet for a friendly competition. ;D. I also tried out the new bullets I bought for the Slayer. Maybe I didn't spend enough time (afriad another officer friendly making another round), but I didnt' think it shoots any better than my cast bullets. On a side note, my new compressor can only pump to 4k. It was originally set up for a scuba tank so they got a regulator on there for only 3500 psi. I adjusted but to the max but it only got to 4k. Thats ok though.
Trinh did you ever get any trigger time for your RAW? How do you like it so far?
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I was at jesse range today, we were shooting my Jager XP 30 caliber, 80 yards same hole ,100 yard 2 inch group, 150 yards broke a 2 inch spinner off ,44 grain JSB 960 fps.
I was very impressed with the Jager, it shot vary well and was quiet to. I will post the pictures I took in the morning, for some reason my phone can't post them.
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That Vulcan was sweet but I am really looking forward to seeing the Impact. I have always admired the Impact form factor and I am sure the performance will be awesome, even in the rain (always) at your place... :D
Troy and I shot yesterday and it didn't rain so I think the rain streak has been broken, hopefully.
Congrats on the Impact. Can't wait to see in person . I am starting to see the leaves changing . It's gonna be nice and cool. What happen if a tree rat decided to cross our path at the range?
He is not to escape alive LOL, more meat for the grill ;D
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Yes! Rains streak down!
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Here is Troy with the Jager and the group it shot at 100'.
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wow, that looks like a really short barrel w/a long ldc, or is that mostly a shroud?
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It does have a short barrel and long LDC, the specs are on R&L airgun site you tube has videos but are in russian.The gun is 40 inches long 6 lbs.Shooting about 960fps with 44.75 grain .30 JSB pellets that spinner is 4 inch wide at 100 yards.
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wow, that looks like a really short barrel w/a long ldc, or is that mostly a shroud?
All I can say is that it is very quiet for the power it is putting out.
Got a tracking number from AOA today, the impact will be here Monday ;D
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As long as it gets here by October 9 Jesse :D I've always wanted to see one of those in person.
I ran the 'ol Bullboss through it's paces this afternoon after work to make sure it will be good to go for the shoot. My "range" only allows me 30 yards for discreet shooting, but I shot groups with 5 different pellets at 30 yards. Every group could be covered by a dime :) My monkeying around with the barrel has paid off it seems.
That .25 Huma plenum seems to be doing well in my .22. I could turn the reg down and get a few more shots, but it is kinda nice to have it regulated, and still be able to play with the velocity if I want. I can literally make it shoot anywhere from 525fps to 1015fps with the 14.3 CPDs without changing the regulator, haha! I can't even guess how many shots it would get if I turned the juice down. I'm getting around 50 at 30fpe though.
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I have not even shot since the last time I was up in Lithonia which according to a video on my youtube channel was 4 months ago, probably closer to 5.
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Ever since my unplanned visit to my late father's bedside, everything's been a blur. I hadn't shot any of my guns for a couple months either.
I did find an old 1322 in his stuff and brought it home. I've shot it a few times. Eventually I want to get it repaired and working correctly.
But the other day while the wife was out shopping, I broke out the Gladius and poked it out the window (don't tell her!) I popped off five round to assure myself I could still hit with it, and put it away.
I gotta get some more ammo for it before the 9th! And... I gotta get my HW95 back to shooting right... I finally got a Vortex Diamondback mounted on it, but need to rework my tube and piston seal...
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Ever since my unplanned visit to my late father's bedside, everything's been a blur. I hadn't shot any of my guns for a couple months either.
I did find an old 1322 in his stuff and brought it home. I've shot it a few times. Eventually I want to get it repaired and working correctly.
But the other day while the wife was out shopping, I broke out the Gladius and poked it out the window (don't tell her!) I popped off five round to assure myself I could still hit with it, and put it away.
I gotta get some more ammo for it before the 9th! And... I gotta get my HW95 back to shooting right... I finally got a Vortex Diamondback mounted on it, but need to rework my tube and piston seal...
I'm sorry for your loss. I remember how devastating it was for me.
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It's been very different. The grief comes at odd times... when I think of something I'd like to tell him, or something I'd like to ask him about, or I see something of his I brought home, or when a complete stranger offers condolences...
Thank you Jere.
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It's been very different. The grief comes at odd times... when I think of something I'd like to tell him, or something I'd like to ask him about, or I see something of his I brought home, or when a complete stranger offers condolences...
Thank you Jere.
Prayers for you, GTA friend.
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Ever since my unplanned visit to my late father's bedside, everything's been a blur. I hadn't shot any of my guns for a couple months either.
I did find an old 1322 in his stuff and brought it home. I've shot it a few times. Eventually I want to get it repaired and working correctly.
But the other day while the wife was out shopping, I broke out the Gladius and poked it out the window (don't tell her!) I popped off five round to assure myself I could still hit with it, and put it away.
I gotta get some more ammo for it before the 9th! And... I gotta get my HW95 back to shooting right... I finally got a Vortex Diamondback mounted on it, but need to rework my tube and piston seal...
Sorry to hear that, if there is anything you need just ask and I will do what I can to help.
be careful with that vortex scope I don't think they are springer rated. Edit, I just looked on AOA's website and they are springer rated.
what pellets dose your Gladius like? I think I have some .177 pellets left over.
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Thanks Jesse. Dad was ready to go. I'd been expecting the call for a while, but nothing prepares you for the event when it finally arrives. I'm doing better now- I'm over the shock of it, but every now and then it catches me unaware.
The Vortex scope is not only springer rated, the company's warranty and service is excellent! I was going to hold out for one with the Mildot reticle, but this one was about half price and I couldn't pass it up. Nice scope!
As for the pellets, the Gladius seems to like those H&N Baracuda Match. A GTA member sent me some of those sniper magnums in it, and they weren't too bad. They had excellent penetration... I know that one of them vaporized my tripod head lock instantly. :o
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Sorry to hear that Jim. My father is getting up there also. 85 years old this year. He stays in Cali. So I try to visit him every 6 months.
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Sorry to hear that Jim. My father is getting up there also. 85 years old this year. He stays in Cali. So I try to visit him every 6 months.
Thanks Trinh.
It's good that you go visit that often. I'm sure your Dad appreciates it. I wish I could have afforded to make the trip more often, but Alaska is a long ways off...
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I too am sorry about your dad Jim. I lost mine in '03, and I still wish there were things I could tell him about or ask him... My dad had cancer, and like you said, he was ready when his time came. My thoughts are with you man :)
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On a different note, I have a heads up for you guys:
I have a couple of extra tickets to the Petit LeMans at Road Atlanta this weekend. If you're a car guy, and have never been, you don't know what you're missing! I know Trinh is a car guy. My company does the copiers there, and we get tickets to give our customers as part of the deal. I had a customer cancel, so I have two FREE tickets available. There is no obligation to come hang out with me, haha! I have to be there for the copiers, and I'm shooting photos for Road Atlanta too, so I'll be running all over the place there :D
These are real cars(porche,ferrari,viper,ford gt,audi, and prototypes), and they are approaching 200mph on the back straight. You can wander through the paddock, harass the mechanics, and get right up close to the action. Here's the link if you want to find more info:
http://www.roadatlanta.com/petit-le-mans-road-atlanta (http://www.roadatlanta.com/petit-le-mans-road-atlanta)
I posted this on here to see if any of you guys might want those tickets, because I can't post this on social media, or I may make some folks mad. Just shoot me a PM if you are interested. First come first serve :)
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Bummer, I have to work on Saturday Donny! Nice of you to think about us.
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I'm already going to be out of town next weekend for church stuff and this bbq and shoot so I'm sticking in town this weekend. Sounds like a ton of fun though; wish I could go. I like racing a lot but haven't been to many races, never a road course.
My dad is 85 and mom is 88 and they just moved to my town a couple of months ago. Very happy I get to see them more often. They are in pretty good health and both had parents that lived to their late 90's so we'll see. Maybe I'll bring dad up to a shoot in Lithonia sometime.
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I too am sorry about your dad Jim. I lost mine in '03, and I still wish there were things I could tell him about or ask him... My dad had cancer, and like you said, he was ready when his time came. My thoughts are with you man :)
Thanks Donny.
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I'm sorry for your loss as well Jim. Looking forward to meeting you in about a week.
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Thank you, and yes I'm looking forward to meeting you too, as the guy who encouraged me to go to the last meetup.
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I know some of your guys are interested in having your very own compressor. ;D. Well...not sure how high this auction will go.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCUBA-COMPRESSOR-NITROX-GENERATOR-TEC-EQUIPMENT-/222264810528?hash=item33c003dc20:g:fS4AAOSwTA9X6dPK (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCUBA-COMPRESSOR-NITROX-GENERATOR-TEC-EQUIPMENT-/222264810528?hash=item33c003dc20:g:fS4AAOSwTA9X6dPK)
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That compressor is in the Dominican Republic. Shipping would be a fortune.
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Lol $1600 just to get it state side. Not including shipping to you once it's state side.
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woo-hoo! One week away!
Hey Jesse, can you PM me your phone # and address for the shoot? I seem to recall some folks said GPS was taking them to a different spot last time so are there any tips or tricks in going to the correct spot?
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I used my phone, and it took me straight to it. FWIW, I have and android and verizon. As long as your phone uses google maps, and it stays updated, you should be okay I'd think.
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yeah, that's what I use, google maps. Hope I get an ATT signal up there.
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Glen you will get an ATT signal until just before you get to the shooting field. There is no signal on the field but 100 yards up on the road you will be ok.
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I got lost up there following Google Maps. It was rather hilarious to me... No one else seemed to find the humor in it, but I busted out laughing and had to pull over...
If Google Maps tells you to turn onto Mountain Cove Road, DON'T. Keep going down Hwy 19 until TS Jarrard Road appears... It's worth looking the map over til you are somewhat familiar...
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This is a link to Google maps with directions to shoot from Atlanta and I have checked it is the correct address. I hope this helps and no one gets lost this time.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Atlanta,+GA/568+Ts+Jarrard+Rd,+Dahlonega,+GA+30533/@34.3442552,-83.9767923,8z/data= (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Atlanta,+GA/568+Ts+Jarrard+Rd,+Dahlonega,+GA+30533/@34.3442552,-83.9767923,8z/data=)!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x88f5045d6993098d:0x66fede2f990b630b!1m2!1m1!1s0x885f6a08d18eae57:0xb2d38b24adb758b1!3e0?hl=en
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The impact came in today and it is a keeper! After I zero the scope I turn my attention to some acorn s in a tree about 50 yards away it didn't mess with 12 shots I'm happy, very happy. I can't wait to see what this thing can do at the longer ranges and what is thrown over the Crony.
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Awesome Jesse, I am really looking forward to eyeballing that one ( and maybe tossing one or two downrange with it )
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The impact came in today and it is a keeper! After I zero the scope I turn my attention to some acorn s in a tree about 50 yards away it didn't mess with 12 shots I'm happy, very happy. I can't wait to see what this thing can do at the longer ranges and what is thrown over the Crony.
That's great! I'm glad you didn't end up with problems like some of the others. Did you put another SWFA scope on it??
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The impact came in today and it is a keeper! After I zero the scope I turn my attention to some acorn s in a tree about 50 yards away it didn't mess with 12 shots I'm happy, very happy. I can't wait to see what this thing can do at the longer ranges and what is thrown over the Crony.
That's great! I'm glad you didn't end up with problems like some of the others. Did you put another SWFA scope on it??
Of course, there is no other opinion for an airgun, but I went with the 12x42 interest of the 10x42 this time
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The impact came in today and it is a keeper! After I zero the scope I turn my attention to some acorn s in a tree about 50 yards away it didn't mess with 12 shots I'm happy, very happy. I can't wait to see what this thing can do at the longer ranges and what is thrown over the Crony.
Awsome! I'm going to start saving $1 per week, beginning today. So, by the time I'm say, 105 or so, I will be able to buy my own. Of course, the price may go up, but you have to start somewhere, right?
Seriously, though, congratulations. I would say that I am envious, but I try hard to not succumb to that particular vice. So I'll just say, instead, that I'm happy for you. Now, I'm going to go get my At44 Long .25 and wring its scrawny neck.
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The impact came in today and it is a keeper! After I zero the scope I turn my attention to some acorn s in a tree about 50 yards away it didn't mess with 12 shots I'm happy, very happy. I can't wait to see what this thing can do at the longer ranges and what is thrown over the Crony.
That's great! I'm glad you didn't end up with problems like some of the others. Did you put another SWFA scope on it??
Of course, there is no other opinion for an airgun, but I went with the 12x42 interest of the 10x42 this time
I will have one of those one day, one day man...... :D
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See, now you've probably going let a few of us may eyeball your new pretty, which in turn is probably going to make is lust after it and want one for ourselves, lol, congrats. Im really looking forward to the streamline if and when it comes out. I think that one would make an excellent squirrel rifle if she's light enough in .25.
The impact came in today and it is a keeper! After I zero the scope I turn my attention to some acorn s in a tree about 50 yards away it didn't mess with 12 shots I'm happy, very happy. I can't wait to see what this thing can do at the longer ranges and what is thrown over the Crony.
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Hey, what about the 2 guys that came out that first time we grilled out at Norman's spot? Do they know about this? I'm horrible at remembering names.
Donny I'm going to grab my O ring sets and bring them w/me to see if I don't have one the right size to do that mod you suggested when you take the cylinder off. My dining room table is so cluttered w/store stuff I have no space to do anything here. Maybe in a few weeks it'll be cool enough outside to set up a table in the car port and work outside.
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Googles PC map, and Google's mobile app seem to be different regarding your address. I still get incorrect directions on my iPhone to go on Mountain Cove/Miller Cove road.
If I leave off the address number, and put in only TS Jarrard Road, then it takes me to the correct road.
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Looking forward to seeing you guys and trying out some different guns on Sunday. I hope the rain holds off.
I'll bring my Gladius (of course!). I got a bunch of pellets on the way for it. Should be here in time...
I'll try to get my HW95 back in action too- it's got new glass!
I need to deburr the tube and install a new piston seal, AND correctly lube with Moly. Apparently it's too easy to get too much and have it detonate/diesel. I'd get some Krytox, but my bank account is dwindling...
If I get my 880 back together, I'll bring it too. I got an adjustable piston from one of the guys here that I would like to try out. It's pretty wimpy compared to all these other fancy guns, but it's still a decent platform.
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I'm going to bring my 95. I've not shot it in forever too.
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The impact came in today and it is a keeper! After I zero the scope I turn my attention to some acorn s in a tree about 50 yards away it didn't mess with 12 shots I'm happy, very happy. I can't wait to see what this thing can do at the longer ranges and what is thrown over the Crony.
I thought it might be fun to try my AT44 .25 at this. Didn't have an oak tree that I could use, though, but I did have some 1/2" spots and stuck a dozen fake acorns, or facorns for short, on a piece of cardboard. 39 yds was about all I could squeeze out by setting up right on the west property line, which I could do only because that house is empty at the moment. I say 39 yds, but my range finder is a bit schizophrenic at times, so, whether it was 39 yds or 43 yds or somewhere in between, it was about that.
Anyway, on to the results: I can now say without reservation or hesitation that, at 39 yds, I could hit the oak tree 12 out of 12 times. Facorns, on the other hand, were a different story and had a better than even chance of escaping totally unharmed. The good thing, however, is that few facorns were seriously harmed in this experiment. Two were gut-shot and had to be put out of their misery, and three more were barely nicked and will only need a small bandaid, but the other seven just sat and yawned as the pellets went by. So, all in all, a typical day at the (backyard) range.
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The impact came in today and it is a keeper! After I zero the scope I turn my attention to some acorn s in a tree about 50 yards away it didn't mess with 12 shots I'm happy, very happy. I can't wait to see what this thing can do at the longer ranges and what is thrown over the Crony.
I thought it might be fun to try my AT44 .25 at this. Didn't have an oak tree that I could use, though, but I did have some 1/2" spots and stuck a dozen fake acorns, or facorns for short, on a piece of cardboard. 39 yds was about all I could squeeze out by setting up right on the west property line, which I could do only because that house is empty at the moment. I say 39 yds, but my range finder is a bit schizophrenic at times, so, whether it was 39 yds or 43 yds or somewhere in between, it was about that.
Anyway, on to the results: I can now say without reservation or hesitation that, at 39 yds, I could hit the oak tree 12 out of 12 times. Facorns, on the other hand, were a different story and had a better than even chance of escaping totally unharmed. The good thing, however, is that few facorns were seriously harmed in this experiment. Two were gut-shot and had to be put out of their misery, and three more were barely nicked and will only need a small bandaid, but the other seven just sat and yawned as the pellets went by. So, all in all, a typical day at the (backyard) range.
Ha! Hope you're coming to the shoot Sunday. We need your sense of humor! Sounds like you need the right pellets....
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Ha! Hope you're coming to the shoot Sunday. We need your sense of humor! Sounds like you need the right pellets....
Gotta laugh, right? And, as to pellets, this rifle is consistent - it doesn't like any, but it dislikes JSB Kings less than it dislikes the others. Actually, I've seen the rifle put 5 consecutive pellets into the same hole at 29 yds, and not a ragged hole, but one about the same size as the pellet. Maybe just coincidence, I don't know. In any event, the next 3-5 shots would be in a different spot, but I digress.
I would dearly love to come, if for no other reason than to see good shooters shooting truly accurate rifles, but it's probably not in the cards this time. Besides, whatever my rifle has might be contagious. I'll be there in spirit for sure.
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When's the last time you cleaned the barrel?
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When's the last time you cleaned the barrel?
Not to put you off, but I don't want to hijack this thread. I intend to make a separate post soon, providing all the data and info that I have, and humbly ask for help from those with more knowledge than I. The warranty is now out, and I can mess around freely without worrying about that. Thanks for asking, though.
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Man, this thread has been everywhere! And the shoot will be over in 4 days so no worries. But, you'll certainly get a wider audience of experts in the Darkside forum so that's probably the best place. Wish you could make it!
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I was about to say the same thing Glen. We hijack our own threads all the time,lol! I guess it is kind of like asking your friends for advice vs total strangers to me, but I digress...
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I was about to say the same thing Glen. We hijack our own threads all the time,lol! I guess it is kind of like asking your friends for advice vs total strangers to me, but I digress...
Donny - If I understand your meaning correctly, then that's a nice thing to say. Thanks.
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That's why the activity picked up in this 'gate'. Some of us were sending so many pm's to each other that our boxes were filling up really quick so we figured may as well come here and have the same conversations. Sure, some of these threads wander off topic but it's just us and it all builds rapport so I don't think the mods mind that much. I think we could have more participation if the state gates weren't all the way at the bottom of the page. I don't know how many actually scroll all the way down here and look. I've not poked around in the other state gates to see how active they are. I know there's at least a monthly shoot in SC that gets talked about. I am glad to see activity pick up here.
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Hey are we gonna have any sort of "weather" from the Hurricane?
I'm looking at the forecast each day, but so far only 10% chance of rain. No telling what the wind will do...
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If what they're saying is true, it should pass us by Saturday mid day or the Georgia coast that is.
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I'm just hoping the hotel I booked/paid for in Spartanburg, SC for Friday night is still mine, as well as the one in Tocca on Saturday.
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I think the worse thing we'll have is some breeze :)
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I think you're right the only thing we're going to get is some pretty strong winds, just makes things a bit more challenging
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That's why the activity picked up in this 'gate'. Some of us were sending so many pm's to each other that our boxes were filling up really quick so we figured may as well come here and have the same conversations. Sure, some of these threads wander off topic but it's just us and it all builds rapport so I don't think the mods mind that much. I think we could have more participation if the state gates weren't all the way at the bottom of the page. I don't know how many actually scroll all the way down here and look. I've not poked around in the other state gates to see how active they are. I know there's at least a monthly shoot in SC that gets talked about. I am glad to see activity pick up here.
I agree, that's why I like this gate so much. Yes it informs people of the shoots but also is a good place for all of us to keep in contact easily and for newcomers to get to know this crazy bunch a little bit better before they meet us in person at the shoots.
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I'm excited to pack up stuff this morning and hit the road! The music store in Stone Mtn was a dead end road but there's one in Anderson, SC that will take my gear on consignment so I'm taking a load up there this morning on my way to Spartanburg. Man, I'm so looking forward to the next 3 days it's unbelievable.
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Good luck with selling your goods, Glen. Looking forward to seeing you up there, Lord willing and the creek don't rise...
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Did you guys know the phrase "Lord willing and the Creeks don't rise" has nothing to do with water? It was actually referring to the Creek Indians. I know, that totally isn't relevant to the subject at hand, but it is a fun fact :D
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Huh. Did not know that.
Hey... just thinking about food and water for Sunday. Is that all taken care of? Or do we need to bring something?
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I'm bringing some chicken "tenderloins" as they're called, and I think others are bringing some stuff, but I can't remember who was bringing what. I think the food and drinks may be covered, but I'm not positive on that... Hopefully, Jesse will chime in on that one.
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I'm bringing some chicken "tenderloins" as they're called, and I think others are bringing some stuff, but I can't remember who was bringing what. I think the food and drinks may be covered, but I'm not positive on that... Hopefully, Jesse will chime in on that one.
Yes, the food is taking care of I have bacon and pancakes for breakfast that will be served at 9:30 AM and I have hamburgers and hotdogs that will be served for lunch and dinner. things that are needed to be brought or chairs tables and canopies. Thanks
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google maps was squirrely on my way to Taccoa today hope it's better tomorrow.
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If someone could bring some cheese slices that would be great I'm out here at the house
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I'll run by Walmart and pick some up on the way over since I drive by one in Cornelia. Shot the .257 today with some powder burner friends. We backed it all the way out to 360 yards and was hitting a steel silhouette on every shot. Granted they was all over in a 12" group with the use of 4x to have a aiming point on the reticle, but something about a ping about 2 seconds after the shot makes even powder burner guys laugh and want to shot and get into air rifles.
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I'm home! Just under 4 hours. Great time today! Thanks Jesse for being an awesome host. I meant to take pics and video but forgot. I took one pic.
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Wow. I'm glad to have met you Glen, but I'm not sure I'd have driven 4 hours. 1-1/2 was about all I want to do. It was nice in the mountains today. Great weather (even with the wind), great folks, and good food.
Oh, and the shooting wasn't so bad either. ;)
Thanks guys for letting me shoot all your guns. Especially Steve. LOVED that P12. If it comes up missing, don't blame me! 8)
It was nice to meet Tony and Norman too. And so good to see Trinh, Jesse, and Donny again.
Had a great time. I needed it. I've been hitting a rough patch lately....
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It was awesome to meet new people that enjoy plinking. Troy, thanks for sharing some knowledge with me about casting and for making hands itch very badly for a Jager now. Hopefully I can find a deal on one like you did. That was a smooth, accurate, HARD hitting .30 cal. I'm glad everyone put up with my very loud cannon up there today. Jesse, that impact is way to temping, but, I do believe I'll hold off and see what the Streamline is about before i decide on a impact. I'm going to message a few people and get some feed back on what I saw with the different weight cast I shot today and see what they recommend i try shape and weight wise on the .257. Maybe I'll even come up with a die to cast from in the whole quest of perfect bullet flight. You need a hand , let me know since I'm the closest to you. If I'm free, I'll surely glad to help out around there and make that shooting range even more awesome and sorry about your spinner.
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Okay, now, I want to hear more. And see pictures. Lots of pictures. Have pity on us poor flat-landers who couldn't make it. :)
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Jim it was great meeting you, Steve, Troy and Tony. Nice meeting your dad too Jesse.
There were too many guns there to count and I didn't shoot even a fourth of what I wanted to shoot. That always happens to me because I spend too much time tweaking my own guns on site. The shoot started, for me, with Donny doing his O ring trick inside the Gladius. After I shot that, Jim shot his and Donny and Steve shot their Bullbosses we realized nobody had a probe for a tank so we all had to pump until Norman got there. There were probes for other brands and the PCP's were popping all day long, however, this was the first shoot I've been to where folks actually brought springers and even a Co2 bb machine gun. Steve had a Hatsan Vortex pistol and Jim had a Crosman pumper pistol. Tony had some kind of frankengun that was as loud as a powder burner and Jesse pointed out a couple of times that it was breaking the sound barrier.
Troy brought an awesome collection of guns including the show stealing and stopping air canes of the 1700's. PCP walking canes that doubled as single shot weapons. Not functional but entirely cool to look at. Jesse's Impact got passed around to everybody I think and the consensus was it's a very nice gun. Trinh has one on the way which means his Slayer will soon be on the chopping block. He brought his new gas powered compressor and filled a few tanks on the spot as well. Norman's Galatian was shooting great, again, I wish I had more time to shoot more guns and I was there, on site, from about 9am to 5:40pm. I got the scope zeroed on my 95 and I readjusted the hammer on my Gladius at power setting 4 instead of 6. That said, there's still more adjusting to do but I wanted to make sure I can shoot with it and it was hitting pretty much where I wanted it to at the sub 50 yard targets which is all the shooting I'm interested in anyway. I can't remember the numbers but I think, without a regulator, I'm getting 18 shots at around 720 fps on power level 4. I'm not sure if I should put a regulator on this gun or not. We'll see.
Jesse had a super range set up and he made some great spinner targets that he had set out to about the yardage of:
15
34
50
80
100
150
Here's one video I did at the 15 yard targets. Read the video description for full details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y66cQeNc4rw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y66cQeNc4rw#)
Here's the other video I did at the 34 yard targets. Read the video description for full details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCJ9grxjM7g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCJ9grxjM7g#)
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I'm home! Just under 4 hours. Great time today! Thanks Jesse for being an awesome host. I meant to take pics and video but forgot. I took one pic.
Glad you made it home safe and you had a good time
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It was great to meet everyone and thanks Jesse for the hospitality!!! Donny chicken were great too. ;D
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Trinh, if you don't get rid of your slayer before we met again, maybe we can figure out your casting bullets since Jesse and myself are going to start casting .257. I believe with the right slug, sized right that gun would put them in same hole at 50 yards. I didn't look thru that crazy digital scope you had either. Giles, with that es you had on that last clip, 3.8, I'd leave her where she's at unless when you turn the power up and it opens up alot, then id tweak it a little more. That wasnt bad for 18 shots for unregulated.
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Yeah I've fired 100's of pellets through it and most of those were just chrony bait for tuning. I'm ready to start putting something in the crosshairs.
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Yep, I had a blast too guys. There were some cool new guns to look at as usual! I really liked Jesse's Impact, but I have to say I think I liked Trinh's RAW just as much. That is a very nice gun. Troy's Jager was a beast :D Glen, I'm glad you were able to get that Gladius tuned FINALLY. As quiet as it was shooting on power level 4, I think think you could shoot at home, and nobody would be the wiser.
Norman's guns were shooting pretty good as well. Both the AT-44 and Galatian were shooting lights out. Steve, I meant to give you one of those o-rings to throw into your Bullboss, but I forgot(#8 o-ring that goes between cylinder and hammer). Tony is was good to meet you, and it was good to see everyone else again. Oh, and Jim's BB gun was pretty neat too.
I was really surprised at how well those barracuda hunters were shooting at 60 yards. I was able to shoot a dime sized 3 shot group with them before the wind picked back up. That ain't bad for a hollow point! I also discovered from yesterday and some further testing today that I need to save up for another scope sooner, rather than later :( I was shooting great yesterday, until I adjusted the scope. It turns out that my turrets are all that exact after all. I was wondering what happened later in the day, but now I know... I'm getting a good 1/4-1/2" variation(at 30 yards) in my left-right adjustments depending on how I adjust and tighten that turret. I was chasing my tail about the last hour I was shooting yesterday,lol!
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Well, Donny, if things work out, I might have a hawke air max 4-12x40 up for sale soon. Let me make sure I'm getting a scope before i say it's for sale.
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Tony, I just looked in my tool kit and I had some JSB 18gr pellets with your name marked on them. Wasn't we supposed to trade some 22 cal for 25 cal pellets? Unless I got you mixed up with someone else.
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Lol, well Norm, I don't have a .25 cal yet I believe you have me mixed up with somone else, but if you want to get rid of a couple of cans, I'd buy them from you.
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Haha I wasn't particularly looking to sell any. I talked to a local airgunner who sold their 25 cal gun and wanted some 22 cal pellets. This was about a month ago and we agreed to do the trade at the shoot. Somehow I marked your name down. I will have to go through my IMs to see which member it was. But since the shoot is over I guess they didn't make it.
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Guys the Ebay 30 minute 2007 MFD tanks for $60 shipped are all gone.
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Well, Donny, if things work out, I might have a hawke air max 4-12x40 up for sale soon. Let me make sure I'm getting a scope before i say it's for sale.
That's good to know Tony, and thanks for the heads up. I still think I'm going to try and hold out until I can get my hands on an SWFA fixed 10X though. I've wanted one of those ever since I shot Jesse's Vulcan. I do like the Hawke too though, and the reticle on those are nice. Both the Hawke and the SWFA scopes are lightweight too, which is great for someone wielding a Hatsan,lol!
I think I'll be able to work around my UTG for while until I save up the $$ for a new scope. Now that I know what the scope is doing, I should be able to adjust accordingly until new scope time arrives :D
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Haha I wasn't particularly looking to sell any. I talked to a local airgunner who sold their 25 cal gun and wanted some 22 cal pellets. This was about a month ago and we agreed to do the trade at the shoot. Somehow I marked your name down. I will have to go through my IMs to see which member it was. But since the shoot is over I guess they didn't make it.
That was Steve, I bought his .25 condor and he picked up a .22 bull boss, I remember seeing a post about that pellet trade.
Steve, how did your bull boss shoot, did you go for 150?
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Well, Donny, if things work out, I might have a hawke air max 4-12x40 up for sale soon. Let me make sure I'm getting a scope before i say it's for sale.
That's good to know Tony, and thanks for the heads up. I still think I'm going to try and hold out until I can get my hands on an SWFA fixed 10X though. I've wanted one of those ever since I shot Jesse's Vulcan. I do like the Hawke too though, and the reticle on those are nice. Both the Hawke and the SWFA scopes are lightweight too, which is great for someone wielding a Hatsan,lol!
I think I'll be able to work around my UTG for while until I save up the $$ for a new scope. Now that I know what the scope is doing, I should be able to adjust accordingly until new scope time arrives :D
I missed that. What is your UTG scope doing?
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So, I have a crazy idea for next time we get out and shoot. Paintballs on golf tees at 100 and 150 yards. That's a half inch target to shoot at and we can get them in bright colors to see. Figured alittle reactive targets would make it alittle funner to shoot at. This could be our shooting bet for like a can of tins or everyone place $5 that wants to shoot at like 10 paintballs with 10 shots at both ranges and whoever knocks the most off wins the friendly shoot to buy more toys for their gun. I think even make it a springer/break barrel 25
/50 yard and then step the PC's out to 80/100 or 100/150 would be a friendly competition. And NO, I won't be using my cannon yet, just my cheap little pcp that actually surprised me Sunday.
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I am down for a friendly competition. :D. Hopefully my impact will be here and also my Slayer is sold. I really need to consolidate some of my guns. It's getting out if hand.
So, I have a crazy idea for next time we get out and shoot. Paintballs on golf tees at 100 and 150 yards. That's a half inch target to shoot at and we can get them in bright colors to see. Figured alittle reactive targets would make it alittle funner to shoot at. This could be our shooting bet for like a can of tins or everyone place $5 that wants to shoot at like 10 paintballs with 10 shots at both ranges and whoever knocks the most off wins the friendly shoot to buy more toys for their gun. I think even make it a springer/break barrel 25
/50 yard and then step the PC's out to 80/100 or 100/150 would be a friendly competition. And NO, I won't be using my cannon yet, just my cheap little pcp that actually surprised me Sunday.
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It's all I can do to hit the biggest spinners at 50 so y'all have fun. :)
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Well, Donny, if things work out, I might have a hawke air max 4-12x40 up for sale soon. Let me make sure I'm getting a scope before i say it's for sale.
That's good to know Tony, and thanks for the heads up. I still think I'm going to try and hold out until I can get my hands on an SWFA fixed 10X though. I've wanted one of those ever since I shot Jesse's Vulcan. I do like the Hawke too though, and the reticle on those are nice. Both the Hawke and the SWFA scopes are lightweight too, which is great for someone wielding a Hatsan,lol!
I think I'll be able to work around my UTG for while until I save up the $$ for a new scope. Now that I know what the scope is doing, I should be able to adjust accordingly until new scope time arrives :D
I missed that. What is your UTG scope doing?
I found out after the shoot that my L/R turret on my scope was being a little wonky. I couldn't shoot as good after adjusted my scope in the last hour or two. It is fine after I lock it down, but I just wasn't aware it was doing that, so it was throwing me off a bit. Finally, a legitimate excuse for bad shooting,lol!
I am down for a friendly competition. :D. Hopefully my impact will be here and also my Slayer is sold. I really need to consolidate some of my guns. It's getting out if hand.
So, I have a crazy idea for next time we get out and shoot. Paintballs on golf tees at 100 and 150 yards. That's a half inch target to shoot at and we can get them in bright colors to see. Figured alittle reactive targets would make it alittle funner to shoot at. This could be our shooting bet for like a can of tins or everyone place $5 that wants to shoot at like 10 paintballs with 10 shots at both ranges and whoever knocks the most off wins the friendly shoot to buy more toys for their gun. I think even make it a springer/break barrel 25
/50 yard and then step the PC's out to 80/100 or 100/150 would be a friendly competition. And NO, I won't be using my cannon yet, just my cheap little pcp that actually surprised me Sunday.
As long as you don't sell that RAW! That is one sweet rifle. Paint balls sounds like fun to me!
It's all I can do to hit the biggest spinners at 50 so y'all have fun. :)
Glen, I hope you're only talking about your springer! I know i've seen your Gladius shoot better than that :D
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It's all I can do to hit the biggest spinners at 50 so y'all have fun. :)
Glen, I have been studying the shoot strings you did at the shoot and I think there is more power to be hard and maybe some more consistency. Is there a day you plan on being up in my neck of the woods soon. If so I would like to see if we can put our heads together and get that gun perfect for you.
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Hi guys sorry for the late check in, life got pretty busy the last few days. Jesse, thanks again for a great air gun outing and some great food. (You too Donny) Awesome fun seeing everyone again, and playing with all the new (to me) toys. Glen, Tony, Norman it was nice to finally be able to meet up and share the best weather that Jesse has ever had at his range... haha
Tony, thanks again for the Hawke scope, I mounted it on the Bullboss. Haven't had time to shoot it yet, but I think I am going to like it. If you do decide to move that Airmax let me know, I might be interested.
Norman, I do think you and I tradded an IM or two about swapping some pellets a while back. I forgot to bring my .25 cal pellets to the shoot, but I still have them if you are interested. I was looking for JSB 18 gn or Baracuda 21 gn pellets. I am having .25 cal hunger pains after selling Jesse my Condor, so if the forum classifieds are kind to me, there could be another .25 in my future.
Jesse, I did have the Bullboss consistantly tagging the 100 yd targets and knocked a couple rocks off the 85 yd top also. I pinged the 150's a couple of times as well, but was plagued with a lack of mil dots, so that range was not so easy. ( Yes, I know, your SWFA scope swims in mildots, might have to get one of those soon ;D ) The P12 was dead on this trip so had a lot of fun with it at all ranges.
An Airgun walking cane...who would have thunk!! What a great collection of old and new airguns, thanks again to all for sharing. I look forward to doing this again before cold weather sits in.
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Steve, Troy always brings something obscure and neat when he shows up!
I think my next adventure with the Bullboss is going to be in the trigger department. I need to really think this one out though, because I'm going to attempt to completely re-design the the linkage and play with that trigger some more... Do any of you guys know if there is a better drop in trigger block assembly that could put in there? I must admit, that isn't a department I've done much research on.
If only I could get a trigger like the one on Jesse's Impact. I really liked how crisp and solid the stages were on that gun. The triggers on Norman's guns are always good(albeit VERY lite), but I think the biggest thing to overcome with the Bullboss is the the linkage.
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I will bring some of my sheridan's next time and some old crossmans .I am heading to NC show thursday I hope to see you there. .I had a great time at shoot. Thanks for the air and good company.Troy
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Jesse I've never been to that part of the state before so at this point I can't see ever heading up there unless it's just to see you. That said, one day I'd like to take the family up to that part of the state for a day or so just to check out a part of the state we've never been to.
I was trying to adjust for a curve but I think I ended up with very close to a flat line over 2 magazines, 18 shots, but I'm not certain I remember the speed. I know a few times I dipped into the 500's and that's when I load a new magazine and fail to cock the gun when putting the magazine in so by the time I do cock it there's 2 pellets in the chamber. I wish there was a way to put in a magazine w/o cycling a round in the chamber but there isn't.
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I know a few times I dipped into the 500's and that's when I load a new magazine and fail to cock the gun when putting the magazine in so by the time I do cock it there's 2 pellets in the chamber. I wish there was a way to put in a magazine w/o cycling a round in the chamber but there isn't.
Don't you HATE that? I did that when I first got the Gladius. I once got three pellets chambered. :-[ :o Thankfully it didn't damage anything. I finally got used to the cocking mechanism, and haven't done it since though. I wish there was a way to prevent this.
I also wish there was a way to automatically indicate how many pellets you've shot out of the clip.
I think I'm gonna mark one of my clips with a sharpie to see if I can figure out how to insert the clip so that the mark winds up in the same place everytime at the end of the clip.
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I know a few times I dipped into the 500's and that's when I load a new magazine and fail to cock the gun when putting the magazine in so by the time I do cock it there's 2 pellets in the chamber. I wish there was a way to put in a magazine w/o cycling a round in the chamber but there isn't.
Don't you HATE that? I did that when I first got the Gladius. I once got three pellets chambered. :-[ :o Thankfully it didn't damage anything. I finally got used to the cocking mechanism, and haven't done it since though. I wish there was a way to prevent this.
I also wish there was a way to automatically indicate how many pellets you've shot out of the clip.
I think I'm gonna mark one of my clips with a sharpie to see if I can figure out how to insert the clip so that the mark winds up in the same place everytime at the end of the clip.
Try numbering all of the cylinders that might solve both problems.
Glen, what power settings did you have that on was it maxed out
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Jesse, I think he was shooting on power level 4(6 being maxed).
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Yep, power level 4.
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Glen and Donny - Now that both of you have seen, and maybe shot, both the Gladius and the Bullboss, are you each satisfied with your choice?
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Glen and Donny - Now that both of you have seen, and maybe shot, both the Gladius and the Bullboss, are you each satisfied with your choice?
I think they are both great guns in their own way. The Bullboss is a bit rougher than the Gladius, but it takes to "fun time" a.k.a. modding a bit easier I think. Both have been tack drivers. I, along with another shooting a different Bullboss were nailing 4" gongs at 100 yards easily. I also saw the Gladius doing it as well. I even managed to tag the 150 yard 4" gong a few times. I think Glen was working on getting his shot string down more so than targets, so I'm not sure how his was in the accuracy department. We'll have to let Glen chime in on his accuracy. I assume it was great like the others. The other Gladius was .177, and he also tagged the 100 yard gong.
I did some more shooting today with my Bullboss, and I was shooting dime size groups at 50 yards, and that was with hollow points :D The fit and finish do appear to be a little better on the Gladius, but it is a more expensive gun. It also has the power adjustability, so it is more flexible. I thin Glen's gun was shooting in the low to mid 700s in .25, and that was only on power level 4. I'll also add that Glen's .25 Gladius was crazy quiet shooting at power level 4 when I was listening. Of course, all of the Bullboss and Gladius I seen have been pretty good in the sound department.
I'm perfectly happy with my Bullboss. Jim with the .177 Gladius seems to really like his. I can't speak for Glen, but I think he likes it. Poor Glen has spent more time tuning than putting lead on targets :( The other Bullboss was .22 like mine, and it belonged to Steve. I think you've already spoke with him. Long story short, I think they are both great guns, and I'd be happy with either one.
I'm sure Glen will chime in soon :)
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There were 2 Bullbosses at Jesse's and I didn't shoot either. :( There's a lot of guns I didn't shoot because I was either zeroing in the scope on my 95 or adjusting the power curve on my Gladius. So I can't compare but I am quite happy w/my purchase. I feel this gun gives me room to grow as a shooter; there are things I'm still learning about it and shooting it. For decades I could sum up my pellet gun experience and knowledge in a .177 springer. A .25 PCP with a 6 level power adjuster is a whole new world and I'm still having fun exploring. I've probably got 600+ pellets through it at this point and 400+ of those were sheer chrony bait, not even aimed at anything. I'm wondering if I should clean the barrel at some point. I still don't have the dinning room table, my work space, cleared of leftover inventory yet but it's slowly happening. The 3 biggest things that would progress my shooting right now are: a place to shoot, a tank fill system and good shooting rest/platform. But hey, a year ago I didn't even have either of these Hatsans so it'll happen in time. :)
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Hey guys, look what I found in my pellet trap,lol! I'm guessing this was Trinh's handy work, haha. Well, we know it'll stop a .357 air gun! They were about 3-4" from the back of the trap, so it could take more :D
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu168/tiltedmonkey/1015161851b.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/tiltedmonkey/media/1015161851b.jpg.html)
I also found these...
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu168/tiltedmonkey/1015161850.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/tiltedmonkey/media/1015161850.jpg.html)
I already had one of the bottles full from last time I cleaned out the trap, so I probably got around 8 or 9lbs of pellets out this time. I have about 16lbs of pellets I've collected at this point :) I think it would make some "special alloy" bullet casts with the H&N/Sig copper plated pellets mixed in with the JSB, H&N, Crosman lead in there. Oddly enough, the pellets that were closest to the back of the trap were the 25.39 .22 monsters that I sent in there. They were pushing 50-55 fpe, so they do have some good penetration.
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How'd you separate the pellets? Did you use a screen?
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Hey guys, look what I found in my pellet trap,lol! I'm guessing this was Trinh's handy work, haha. Well, we know it'll stop a .357 air gun! They were about 3-4" from the back of the trap, so it could take more :D
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu168/tiltedmonkey/1015161851b.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/tiltedmonkey/media/1015161851b.jpg.html)
I also found these...
(http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu168/tiltedmonkey/1015161850.jpg) (http://s644.photobucket.com/user/tiltedmonkey/media/1015161850.jpg.html)
I already had one of the bottles full from last time I cleaned out the trap, so I probably got around 8 or 9lbs of pellets out this time. I have about 16lbs of pellets I've collected at this point :) I think it would make some "special alloy" bullet casts with the H&N/Sig copper plated pellets mixed in with the JSB, H&N, Crosman lead in there. Oddly enough, the pellets that were closest to the back of the trap were the 25.39 .22 monsters that I sent in there. They were pushing 50-55 fpe, so they do have some good penetration.
I don't guess you have posted plans somewhere or used plans already posted?
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I have a large plastic sugar container with the snap on lid that I drilled holes in the bottom of. I'll fill it up about 1/2-3/4 with the rubber mulch out of the trap and shake'em out. It works pretty good. I just get a large black trash bag that I lay put on the floor to shake the pellets out onto, and then I just pick them up. I put the larger pieces of mulch that don't come out into a box that I later put back into the trap, and throw away the smaller pieces/debris. I just top off the mulch in the trap with some new mulch when I'm done. It is a little tedious, but not too bad. I've only had to clean my trap out twice out of 6-8 thousand rounds, so it isn't like I have to do it often or anything.
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Good evening all, after the great event at Jesse's and some considerable soul searching I have let the returning .25 cal cravings get to me and I am going to sell the .22 Bullboss. Not because I did not like the gun, ( I do) not because it did not shoot well, (it does) and not because there is anything at all wrong with it, (there isn't) but because the P12 is my goto .22 cal air rifle and I am craving something else again in .25 or .30 now. (That Jager sure looked enticing). If you know anyone that might be interested have them PM me. In a few days I will post it on the classifieds, so I can help fund my next adventure... Steve
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Jere, here is a post I did when I cleaned it out the first time:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=105661.msg1002092#msg1002092 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=105661.msg1002092#msg1002092)
If you're talking about the trap, then here's the quick description... It is a box that I made 13"high x 13"wide x 10"deep. I made it that size so a 12" foam square(1"thick) would sit in the front and hold 12" targets. I hinged the front and cut out about 10" square opening, and made latches at the bottom to hold the front shut. I then filled it up with rubber mulch. Anytime I want to change the target or the foam square, I just unlatch the front and change it. It's pretty simple, but it works wonderfully!
Didn't you say you were thinking about a Bullboss? Looks like Steve is about to sell his ^^^.
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Good evening all, after the great event at Jesse's and some considerable soul searching I have let the returning .25 cal cravings get to me and I am going to sell the .22 Bullboss. Not because I did not like the gun, ( I do) not because it did not shoot well, (it does) and not because there is anything at all wrong with it, (there isn't) but because the P12 is my goto .22 cal air rifle and I am craving something else again in .25 or .30 now. (That Jager sure looked enticing). If you know anyone that might be interested have them PM me. In a few days I will post it on the classifieds, so I can help fund my next adventure... Steve
Looks like I'm going to be all alone again as a Bullboss owner :( I'm joking of course. Good luck finding your next toy!
On a side note, Jesse, I just watched a video review of the FX 400 Royale with the smooth twist barrel, and he shot quite a few non JSB pellets through it, and they were shooting pretty good... I only say that, because you were saying you didn't think it would shoot anything but JSBs well. You may want to test out some other stuff with your Impact... Like maybe some Barracuda Match or for hunting the Polymags and H&N hollowpoint variants. Did I leave those PDG Bombs over there(can't remember)? If so, give them a try too.
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Steve I saw a thread where someone was asking for shot count data for, I think, a Vulcan and a Cricket in .25. That Cricket was, I think, upwards of 45 shots on a single fill, which in my book is awesome for a .25. I'm positive that's filling higher than a 200 bar Bullboss though and I don't know if you're interested in another bullpup or not. If so, I'd check out the FX Wildcat in .25 also.
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Thanks Glen, I do like the Bullpup form factor, but the deciding factor will be light weight for field use. Those two guns, used, might be in the same price range as the Jager... :-)
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I really like the look of the Vulcan Tactic too. It has a smaller air cylinder than the Cricket, which may be better for a pumper like Steve. It was the Vulcan getting 45 shots at 45 fpe, and the Cricket was getting 55 shots at 55fpe. I'd be happy to own either one of them!
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I looked for you guys at the airgun show you missed a great event every thing in one place I was the only one with a jager. I got rid of 3 guns and got one new to me airgun, pellets fill adaptors books tee shirts and got to see old friends, and shot for bit.
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I looked for you guys at the airgun show you missed a great event every thing in one place I was the only one with a jager. I got rid of 3 guns and got one new to me airgun, pellets fill adaptors books tee shirts and got to see old friends, and shot for bit.
Where was it?
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Hey guys, look what I found in my pellet trap,lol! I'm guessing this was Trinh's handy work, haha. Well, we know it'll stop a .357 air gun! They were about 3-4" from the back of the trap, so it could take more :D
"dang" I didn't think any of the bullets made it in the box as I didn't see where it was hitting.
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Well not to worry about the Slayer doing anymore damages to anyone's pellet box or targets. It has gone to a good home. I traded the Slayer plus cash on top for this .25 Vulcan. Looks like I will have to put the Kalibrgun Cricket on the chopping block. Now I have to figure out how to add a picannity rail for the bipod.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/purpleGORILLA/IMG_0729_zps2ncz8nbc.jpg)
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Troy I had to work. I could kick myself for missing it too.
I looked for you guys at the airgun show you missed a great event every thing in one place I was the only one with a jager. I got rid of 3 guns and got one new to me airgun, pellets fill adaptors books tee shirts and got to see old friends, and shot for bit.
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Trinh, do not sell your Cricket; you will regret that. Unless it's a .25 then sell it to Steve so I'll still get to shoot it sometimes. ;) Seriously, that is a benchmark gun to me. Keep it.
Troy I saw some folks talk about the air gun show. Wish I could've gone; by all reports it was a great event.
Hey guys, that bench time zeroing in my 95 last Sunday paid off. :) http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=116168.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=116168.0)
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Lol if Steve wants it I can cut him a deal. It's a .25 so I really don't need two Czech bullpups.
Trinh, do not sell your Cricket; you will regret that. Unless it's a .25 then sell it to Steve so I'll still get to shoot it sometimes. ;) Seriously, that is a benchmark gun to me. Keep it.
Troy I saw some folks talk about the air gun show. Wish I could've gone; by all reports it was a great event.
Hey guys, that bench time zeroing in my 95 last Sunday paid off. :) http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=116168.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=116168.0)
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Then Steve should jump all over that gun. Seriously. I would if I could.
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I saw no less than 12 crickets in north carolina sell it. Cool new gun. You have to change the inventory.
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Well not to worry about the Slayer doing anymore damages to anyone's pellet box or targets. It has gone to a good home. I traded the Slayer plus cash on top for this .25 Vulcan. Looks like I will have to put the Kalibrgun Cricket on the chopping block. Now I have to figure out how to add a picannity rail for the bipod.
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I thought used Slayers cost more than new Vulcans.
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I probably worded wrong Norman. Buyer had to add cash. He even threw in several new tins of JSB too. Did you ever get that LDC? I might need one for the Vulcan. The one I made for the Cricket didn't turn out so well. :(
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Glen and Trinh your killing me....haha
Trinh, I guess we have to talk... I have the .25 fever again... ;D
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Trinh, the Slayer didn't hurt my trap. Like I said, those bullets still had a good 3-4" of rubber mulch to get through before they even made it to the back of the trap :) Those Vulcans are sweet guns, and I know Jesse's was pretty darn accurate.
Looks like you and Steve need to do some wheeling and dealing. Hey, do you have a .22 of any kind Trinh?? I could probably tune Steve's Bullboss to be stupid quiet and get 60+ shots in the 25 fpe range with a regulator. It would make a great house gun for plinking and small critters with that tune :D I get about 50 with mine tuned in the 30 fpe range, and at 25fpe or less, it would be darn near silent.... I'm just saying,lol!
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Hey Steve, thanks for those extra .22 pellets. I've been having fun flinging them out of the 1322. Can't hit a lick, but it's fun... ;D
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Well not to worry about the Slayer doing anymore damages to anyone's pellet box or targets. It has gone to a good home. I traded the Slayer plus cash on top for this .25 Vulcan. Looks like I will have to put the Kalibrgun Cricket on the chopping block. Now I have to figure out how to add a picannity rail for the bipod.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/purpleGORILLA/IMG_0729_zps2ncz8nbc.jpg)
Trinh, that is a gorgeous 3 gen Vulcan, you will love it. It needs a SWFA 10x or if you have the extra cash the FFP 3-15x42 http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-15x42-Tactical-Rifle-Scope-P62238.aspx (http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-15x42-Tactical-Rifle-Scope-P62238.aspx)
I put a rail on my Vulcan and will be more than happy to put one on yours, if you trust me to drill holes in your new toy. I had a Donnie do ldc on mine and loved it, be careful when ordering one for that gun because the third Ginns have a different thread pitch then standard LDCs
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I probably worded wrong Norman. Buyer had to add cash. He even threw in several new tins of JSB too. Did you ever get that LDC? I might need one for the Vulcan. The one I made for the Cricket didn't turn out so well. :(
I ordered one from Rocker1. I had to send the Cricket to Allen Z for tuning and repair so I won't have any info about performance until the gun get back.
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I looked for you guys at the airgun show you missed a great event every thing in one place I was the only one with a jager. I got rid of 3 guns and got one new to me airgun, pellets fill adaptors books tee shirts and got to see old friends, and shot for bit.
I was committed to do photography for a close family friend's wedding and reception. I'm glad I didn't know about the show because I would have been tortured since I promised to do the pictures months ago.
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I looked for you guys at the airgun show you missed a great event every thing in one place I was the only one with a jager. I got rid of 3 guns and got one new to me airgun, pellets fill adaptors books tee shirts and got to see old friends, and shot for bit.
Troy - Who sponsored the airgun show, and how can we find out when the next one is so as to maybe be able to go?
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The 5th annual north carolina airgun show is october 20,2017 and october 21,2017 Hickory Fairgrounds 1 American Legion Avenue,Newton NC 28658 #704-325-3931
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Jesse, what all pellets have you tried out of your impact? I have about 15 different .22 cal pellets if you want to try some different ones. Jsb 15&18, several different h&n pellets, light to heavy, copper coated ftt also. I have 3 different weight .257 bullets to try out. 60 gr noe, 80gr noe HP and 82 gr spritzers. They've been sized .2576 and .2578. I have around 250 bullets to try. 100 60 gr noe, 50 in both sizes. 50 of the 80 gr noe HP in .2578 and 100 of the 82 gr spritzers 50 of both sizes if you want to shoot a few and see how they fly. I haven't had a chance to shoot then quiet yet.
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Looks like you and Steve need to do some wheeling and dealing. Hey, do you have a .22 of any kind Trinh?? I could probably tune Steve's Bullboss to be stupid quiet and get 60+ shots in the 25 fpe range with a regulator. It would make a great house gun for plinking and small critters with that tune :D I get about 50 with mine tuned in the 30 fpe range, and at 25fpe or less, it would be darn near silent.... I'm just saying,lol!
LOL, I think Donny doesn't want to be the only guy in Georgia with a bullboss. To be honest, once I went with .25. I kind of gotten spoiled by it. ;D. Thinking about converting my Escape to a .257
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LOL, I think Donny doesn't want to be the only guy in Georgia with a bullboss. To be honest, once I went with .25. I kind of gotten spoiled by it. ;D. Thinking about converting my Escape to a .257
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pm dyotat100 and get a valve with tank and his hammer and spring, that is what I have and I love it. the barrel can be got at www.rlairgunsuplies.com (http://www.rlairgunsuplies.com)
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Since the Fun Shoot is now history and the talk is now more or less about airguns in general, I have a question: For a Hatsan AT44-10 Long .25, unregulated, JSB King 25.4, 2700 PSI fill, how many shots should I get averaging 890 FPS with an ES of 20 or less? I'm only getting about 9.
I'm now filling only to 2500-2700 PSI, as that seems to be what it takes to eliminate most of the POI shift problem.
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Man I had one of those for just a couple of months and it was not a stock gun as the barrel had been chopped so my numbers would be off and honestly I can't recall them but I'm going to say you should probably be getting around 16-18 shots off a fill in a good curve.
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LOL, I think Donny doesn't want to be the only guy in Georgia with a bullboss. To be honest, once I went with .25. I kind of gotten spoiled by it. ;D. Thinking about converting my Escape to a .257
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Looks like Donny will get his wish, I just found out that my torq converter on my truck is going bad so my next .25 cal will have to wait until I recover from truck expense. Will keep the Bullboss for a while... ;D
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I can't really speak for an un-modded AT-44 either. I know with my AT-44 long in .22 shooting the JSB Jumbo Monsters in 25.39 grain. I was able to get 18-20 shots with the short cylinder averaging about 900fps, but that was with a 3000psi fill, and I modded almost everything I could in that gun. I would think you should be able to do better in a .25 with a long cylinder, especially if you do the mods to let it breathe a bit better on the valve and ports.
I would refer you back to Bob's post he did on the AT44 long in .25. He documented the testing from un-modded to modded all the way. http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=33903.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=33903.0)
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I can't really speak for an un-modded AT-44 either. I know with my AT-44 long in .22 shooting the JSB Jumbo Monsters in 25.39 grain. I was able to get 18-20 shots with the short cylinder averaging about 900fps, but that was with a 3000psi fill, and I modded almost everything I could in that gun. I would think you should be able to do better in a .25 with a long cylinder, especially if you do the mods to let it breathe a bit better on the valve and ports.
I would refer you back to Bob's post he did on the AT44 long in .25. He documented the testing from un-modded to modded all the way. http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=33903.0 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=33903.0)
Yeah. Slipped my mind. Thanks.
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Any one looking to sell a light weight .25 or .30 cal? My dad wants to get on for pesting at the house. It had to be light and quiet is his to request. Cast, you want to sell that Jager????
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So both of my newly acquired guns are leaking. After 1-2 days it would go down about 1000 psi, decided to check for leak on the Vulcan first . Kind of unconventional method but couldn't find it by soapy water. Hopefully this will work. As for the Impact, will have to send it in but figured I would keep it a little longer to get done more shooting time first since I did have to wait for a while for the gun. >:((http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/TinSoldier770/3D8CEC13-5F4E-4570-BCED-5573FCE0FFFE.jpg)
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That's ingenuity right there! Maybe they just need to be shot some more to let the seals settle in?
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So both of my newly acquired guns are leaking. After 1-2 days it would go down about 1000 psi, decided to check for leak on the Vulcan first . Kind of unconventional method but couldn't find it by soapy water. Hopefully this will work. As for the Impact, will have to send it in but figured I would keep it a little longer to get done more shooting time first since I did have to wait for a while for the gun. >:((http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/TinSoldier770/3D8CEC13-5F4E-4570-BCED-5573FCE0FFFE.jpg)
Major bummer! Maybe a little silicone oil here and there might help?
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Well I can't find any leaks and the gauge didn't move. It must be the soothing elses. I wonder if it is because I had the gun cocked. But I did not think that would make any differences.
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So I became a victim to Black Friday on pyramydair. Now I need that Donny's special touch on the Nova .22 for whispering quiet and mega count shots. ;)
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Congrats on a nice looking gun Trinh! I bet it will be capable of a ton of shots. If you put a regulator on it, and tune it to shoot the crossman 14.3s around 900fps, you could probably go through a whole 500 count tin of pellets on 3-4 fills,lol! Not to sound like a broken record(it's Jesse's fault), but I think now would be a good time to get your hands on one of the SWFA SS scopes :D
http://www.swfa.com/BlackFriday2016/ (http://www.swfa.com/BlackFriday2016/)
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So I became a victim to Black Friday on pyramydair. Now I need that Donny's special touch on the Nova .22 for whispering quiet and mega count shots. ;)
Congrats. I'm claiming first dibs to buy it after you get bored and want to sell it ;D
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So I became a victim to Black Friday on pyramydair. Now I need that Donny's special touch on the Nova .22 for whispering quiet and mega count shots. ;)
Congrats. I'm claiming first dibs to buy it after you get bored and want to sell it ;D
Smart man! We all know Trinh can't hold on to one single gun for too long, haha! I bet it will be even sweeter if he puts a carbon bottle on it! With the discounts, he probably got it for just over $700, which ain't bad at all for that kind of power/shot count in a gun. I'm sure it will be a tack driver with that fully floated barrel too!
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First of all, congratulations, Trinh, on your new Hatsan. I hope it serves you well.
Second, I would appreciate you guys' opinion(s) on something. As you may know I was having POI shift issues with my AT44 .25 Long. It went to Hatsan a couple of times, was replaced once, and finally the warranty ran out with no improvement in the problem. I have sent it to Baxter Walton, so, hopefully he can do what Hatsan couldn't. I was also having accuracy issues with my AT44 .177 Short and finally sent it to Hatsan. They kept it about 5 weeks, during which time the warranty expired, and finally said they couldn't fix it so sent a replacement.
When I got the new .177, I fired it a bit to see what it was doing and then removed the stock to see what the factory hammer spring setting was. The screws were very tight and somewhat difficult to remove. I found out that the stock screw holes were not aligned with those in the action. Of course, that means that mounting the stock will put inordinate pressure on the action. Then, too, there's the aggravation every time I remove the stock and remount it. Next, I tried the hammer spring, and the adjuster appears to be completely frozen and will not budge.
I know that coincidences will fool you, and while the rules of chance might mean that you get a defective .25 in replacement of a defective .25 and the same thing for the .177, it seems to me that the odds of that are pretty long. Even so, I'm not suggesting anything.
Long story a bit shorter, I'm just wondering how I should look at this and what, if anything, I should expect from Hatsan since the warranty is now out. Naturally, I'm a bit PO'd, although I'm not quite sure at what or whom.
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Dude, if you had bought that gun on Pyramid from me I could've gotten paid to sell it to you! I'm working chat sales for them part time. Hey, I'm posting this here but not any other place. I'm not trying to drum up business. You're a friend and I'm sure you didn't even know I was doing this because I haven't told you guys. If you already have a chat sales dude then by all means stick with him. Not trying to scoop anybody's gig. Looking forward to shooting that Nova!!
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Jere, if anyone knows about Hatsan. It would be Donny. Because that's where my Nova is going as soon as I get it. ;D you should come out one day and have him check it out.
Glen if I have known that , I would have definitely gotten you to write me up. :-\
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Norman I laid claim to Trinh's Nova weeks ago when I told I wanted a .22 to make sure he got one. ;) I'll be broke anyway. :( Man I need a real job!
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First of all, congratulations, Trinh, on your new Hatsan. I hope it serves you well.
Second, I would appreciate you guys' opinion(s) on something. As you may know I was having POI shift issues with my AT44 .25 Long. It went to Hatsan a couple of times, was replaced once, and finally the warranty ran out with no improvement in the problem. I have sent it to Baxter Walton, so, hopefully he can do what Hatsan couldn't. I was also having accuracy issues with my AT44 .177 Short and finally sent it to Hatsan. They kept it about 5 weeks, during which time the warranty expired, and finally said they couldn't fix it so sent a replacement.
When I got the new .177, I fired it a bit to see what it was doing and then removed the stock to see what the factory hammer spring setting was. The screws were very tight and somewhat difficult to remove. I found out that the stock screw holes were not aligned with those in the action. Of course, that means that mounting the stock will put inordinate pressure on the action. Then, too, there's the aggravation every time I remove the stock and remount it. Next, I tried the hammer spring, and the adjuster appears to be completely frozen and will not budge.
I know that coincidences will fool you, and while the rules of chance might mean that you get a defective .25 in replacement of a defective .25 and the same thing for the .177, it seems to me that the odds of that are pretty long. Even so, I'm not suggesting anything.
Long story a bit shorter, I'm just wondering how I should look at this and what, if anything, I should expect from Hatsan since the warranty is now out. Naturally, I'm a bit PO'd, although I'm not quite sure at what or whom.
I'm sure Baxter will get that .25 fixed up for ya :) The stock screws not lining up may not be a big deal, but rather an oversight on the gun's assembly by Hatsan? If I had in my hands, I could tell you for sure, but it might be as simple as the plastic plug at the rear of the trigger tube isn't pushed in far enough. If that's the case the rear screw behind the trigger won't line up easily. There are two screws that hold that in place, and one of them is the rear stock screw. The other is the rearmost screw in top of the breech. I would take it out of the stock and loosen that top screw and push in on the plastic "plug", while tightening that top screw back down. Then the rear screw will probably line up better. This may seem obvious, but just in case: 1) Make sure the barrel band is properly seated, because it can be slightly out of position in the stock. 2) Make sure the metal spacers are in place on the inside and outside of the stock where the middle screw goes in.
As far as the hammer being hard to break loose, that will probably just require some elbow grease to get it to break loose. They flatten some of the threads on the grub screw in the hammer from the factory to make it so it stays in position better. They probably just screwed it in there too much, and the combo of the flattened threads and the end of the threading in the hammer have it seized up. This is just a guess, of course. I don't know how comfortable you are with taking it apart, but if you took the hammer out of the gun and gave it a little bit of heat with a heat gun, propane torch, or even a blow dryer, I bet that screw would come right out. Heck, it make break free if you just lay the gun in the sun for a while(minus the air cylinder). It is kinda like changing the O2 sensor in a car's exhaust. You don't have a chance of breaking that thing free if the exhaust is cold, and they usually have to be removed when the exhaust is still hot/warm. Again, just guessing here :)
Jere, if anyone knows about Hatsan. It would be Donny. Because that's where my Nova is going as soon as I get it. ;D you should come out one day and have him check it out.
Glen if I have known that , I would have definitely gotten you to write me up. :-\
You're a brave man letting me get my paws on your shiny new gun like that Trinh, lol! I must admit, I am curious to how it is put together though :D You better stock up on CPD pellets, because that thing will get lots of shots I'm sure.
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On a side note, anybody heard from Jesse lately? It may just be me not frequenting the right forums, but I have seen much from him in a while...
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I haven't seen a a post from Jesse in quite a while. Hopefully he is out lurking in the woods with the .257 Condor :D
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Donny - A lot of good info there. Thanks. So I assume you would just go ahead, take things in hand, and not expect anything more from Hatsan? That's about the conclusion I had come to. Actually, I would like to dig into the rifle and see how it works, but I never would, as they were in warranty, and I didn't want to screw that up. Sure, I took the barrels off for cleaning, but that's about the extent of my exploring. Of course, if I take it apart and then put it back together with parts left over, I might have to ask you where they go. :-)
Thanks again.
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Granted, I look at stuff like this differently than many people, but I'd rather fix stuff myself than deal with shipping and waiting etc. After all, I did take my Bullboss apart and start working on it the day I got it, haha. As long as you don't do anything crazy, I'm sure I or someone else could tell you where those extra parts go :D Once you figure out how they work, they really aren't that hard to take apart, and you can download the parts diagram straight from Hatsan to help.
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I always have extra screws/bolts when I take my car apart and put back together. It's called being efficient.
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I always have extra screws/bolts when I take my car apart and put back together. It's called being efficient.
Is that why you couldn't get that 355 to run a while back? Haha! Extra screws/bolts is not usually a good thing, unless you're removing those pesky power robbing emission parts :D In that case, it is indeed efficient!
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Granted, I look at stuff like this differently than many people, but I'd rather fix stuff myself than deal with shipping and waiting etc. After all, I did take my Bullboss apart and start working on it the day I got it, haha. As long as you don't do anything crazy, I'm sure I or someone else could tell you where those extra parts go :D Once you figure out how they work, they really aren't that hard to take apart, and you can download the parts diagram straight from Hatsan to help.
A couple of questions:
1. I found a video on disassembling a single shot AT44. On the repeater versions, that plate on the side has, I'm sure, something to do with magazine indexing and advancing. If I take this rifle apart to see how it ticks and correct some issues plus do some things, like polishing the hammer and hammer tube, must this part be disassembled, as well? I assume so. Do you know of a guide anywhere on this, or is it, in your opinion, not necessary? I did take the screws out, but there was a spring or something pushing out, so I put them back in w/o removing the plate, because I was concerned that parts may spring out and that I might not be able to tell how it went back together.
2. The rifle that this rifle replaces had a removable breech cap, which made changing the breech o-ring so easy, but this one does not That was one of Hatsan's better ideas, I think, but, unfortunately, they have apparently moved away from it. I have enough trouble removing the breech o-ring on the .25, but the .177 seems almost impossible. Is there a trick to getting these things out without damaging the o-ring groove and/or the o-ring?
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And how do you get the transfer port out? I think I've already boogered it up trying. It's pretty soft stuff.
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There is no reason to take the side cover off at all, unless you're having problems with the magazine indexing, which doesn't happen much. In other words, leave that alone, haha!
The transfer port is tight, because it is probably bound in place by the cylinder carrier. If you loosen the big screw on the bottom of the trigger tube that the stock screws into, then the big brass cylinder carrier will have some wiggle room and the transfer port will come out much easier then. That big screw holds that cylinder carrier in place, along with the front breech screw that is removed when separating the breech from the trigger tube. Also, polishing the trigger tube and hammer really isn't necessary, and you'll only gain the effort in doing it :D
When you say breech o-ring, I'm assuming you're talking about the o-ring that seals the probe in the barrel, right? The best way to do it is to pull the barrel(2 set screws). The end of the barrel where that little o-ring is, actually is a cap that screws off. When you screw that off, the little o-ring is easy to replace. Looking at the barrel, you'd never know that. I didn't know it at first either, but Norman showed me back when I was just getting into this stuff. Some are tight, and some will come off pretty easy. I had to use pliers and some cloth wrapped around it to get it off. The edge of the cap stops at the first of the two o-rings on the outside of the barrel there.
I don't know of any specific "how to" instructions, but I'm sure there are some out there. Of course, you can download the parts diagram straight from Hatsan's site. Just go to the bottom and click on the parts link, and you see where you can download it.
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Hey Trinh, has that Nova shown up yet??
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Yes Trinh have my Nova arrived yet? I'm wondering if Hatsan use a standard size bottle and if regulators for other bottle guns are compatible with it.
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Yes Trinh have my Nova arrived yet? I'm wondering if Hatsan use a standard size bottle and if regulators for other bottle guns are compatible with it.
LOL! I like the way you worded that :D I was wondering the same thing about regulating it etc...
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That Nova is going to passed around more than a good bottle of Scotch.. ;D :D ;D
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Trinh is going to keep that gun out of spite now, haha!
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There is no reason to take the side cover off at all, unless you're having problems with the magazine indexing, which doesn't happen much. In other words, leave that alone, haha!
Good! I had some problems with JSB Monsters feeding, but I'm not sure yet what the cause was.
The transfer port is tight, because it is probably bound in place by the cylinder carrier. If you loosen the big screw on the bottom of the trigger tube that the stock screws into, then the big brass cylinder carrier will have some wiggle room and the transfer port will come out much easier then. That big screw holds that cylinder carrier in place, along with the front breech screw that is removed when separating the breech from the trigger tube. Also, polishing the trigger tube and hammer really isn't necessary, and you'll only gain the effort in doing it :D
I did that, but that sucker is still tight. I've already messed it up, though, so I may as well put the pliers on it and jerk it out.
When you say breech o-ring, I'm assuming you're talking about the o-ring that seals the probe in the barrel, right? The best way to do it is to pull the barrel(2 set screws). The end of the barrel where that little o-ring is, actually is a cap that screws off. When you screw that off, the little o-ring is easy to replace. Looking at the barrel, you'd never know that. I didn't know it at first either, but Norman showed me back when I was just getting into this stuff. Some are tight, and some will come off pretty easy. I had to use pliers and some cloth wrapped around it to get it off. The edge of the cap stops at the first of the two o-rings on the outside of the barrel there.
Yes, but are you sure that all have the removable cap? My first .177 had it, but the .25 didn't, or at least I couldn't get it off, and this .177 seems to be the same way. So I asked Hatsan and was told that some do and some don't, and there's no way to predict which may have it. Right or wrong, that's what they said.
Any idea what a new transfer port would cost?
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All the ones I've seen have the cap. It was really tight on my guns, and I had to take some folded cloth and pliers to get it off without scratching it up. I mean, I would think Hatsan would know better than I though? If you can't get it off, then it is time to invest in a small spring hook of some sort. Those can be had pretty cheap.
Norman, have you ever seen one that didn't screw off?? Norman has had his hands on a lot of AT-44s...
That TP must have been wedged in there good when the screws were tightened from the factory. I wouldn't think that transfer port would be expensive at all. I can tell you that it is part #2401 in the diagram, if that helps. Also, I know Baxter(bwalton) makes some press fit ones for it too. Will the cylinder carrier wiggle any when you loosen the big screw? Either way, sounds like you may have already mangled it, so just yank it out of there. It should come straight out.
Those pellets feeding funny could be as simple as the o-ring on the magazine is stretched out. I would try feeding them with a different magazine and see if the same thing happens. I could be a matter of that particular magazine needing to be polished/deburred? If you get the same with a different magazine, then it could be the probe isn't straight, or something odd like that. I'm assuming they aren't too long for the magazine.
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I've had 3 AT44s and could remove the cap. The only Hatsan barrel I couldn't get it off is on my 30 cal.
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Trinh told me on Facebook he's sending the Nova back. He's disappointed in the finish, says it's rough.
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LOL, you guys didn't think it was this quick huh? Seriously maybe my expectations were a little on the high side, but I received the Nova Tuesday and I am not happy with it. The wood finishing was on par, but the metals had a lot of rough edges. It was a little heavy and longer than I had anticipated (even longer than my RAW HM1000x) . I thought to myself, if I was going to spend this much and only getting this I might as well cough up a little more and jump to the Air Arms or BSA price range. :-\
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Trinh told me on Facebook he's sending the Nova back. He's disappointed in the finish, says it's rough.
The opinion I have formed about Hatsans, and I have had 5 different ones at one time or other, is that the engineering is great, but a lot of skimping goes on in manufacturing and assembly. So far, though, going mostly on the experience of others, the barrels seem to be predominately good. Maybe they outsource those.
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LOL, you guys didn't think it was this quick huh? Seriously maybe my expectations were a little on the high side, but I received the Nova Tuesday and I am not happy with it. The wood finishing was on par, but the metals had a lot of rough edges. It was a little heavy and longer than I had anticipated (even longer than my RAW HM1000x) . I thought to myself, if I was going to spend this much and only getting this I might as well cough up a little more and jump to the Air Arms or BSA price range. :-\
Yep. I would agree. Of course, you may not get a quality bottle gun in that range, but I don't know.
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LOL, you guys didn't think it was this quick huh? Seriously maybe my expectations were a little on the high side, but I received the Nova Tuesday and I am not happy with it. The wood finishing was on par, but the metals had a lot of rough edges. It was a little heavy and longer than I had anticipated (even longer than my RAW HM1000x) . I thought to myself, if I was going to spend this much and only getting this I might as well cough up a little more and jump to the Air Arms or BSA price range. :-\
I knew they were heavy. That's bites about the quality man :( I have seen more and more people with QC issues on their Hatsans lately. It is starting to look like they need to get their &^^& together! Those BSA R10 Mk2s do look nice :D I actually think those Cometa rifles look nice too, and say AD had them in stock....
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Well..I decided to jump onto Steve's Boat instead. I was pretty impress at the finishing and weight of the P12, so after seeing MrodAir had a Christmas special today I had to cave in. This is going to be my son's gun and the P12 had all the criterias I was looking for (reasonably priced, bullpup, and light).
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Sounds good. Bring him shooting with you sometime!
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Well..I decided to jump onto Steve's Boat instead. I was pretty impress at the finishing and weight of the P12, so after seeing MrodAir had a Christmas special today I had to cave in. This is going to be my son's gun and the P12 had all the criterias I was looking for (reasonably priced, bullpup, and light).
Sounds like you should have kept your Cricket BP. After he get hooked on PCPs he's going to be mad at you for not giving him that gun ;D
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Amen!
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Congrats Trin, the P12 is still treating me very well and I am sure your son will love it if you ever give him a turn with it... ;D You may want to consider the hammer debounce if you did not order it with one. Cuts down on the overall power capability, but a smoother shot cycle and I can still get 25 shots at approximately 40 ft lbs with 21 gn Cudas.
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Congrats Trin, the P12 is still treating me very well and I am sure your son will love it if you ever give him a turn with it... ;D You may want to consider the hammer debounce if you did not order it with one. Cuts down on the overall power capability, but a smoother shot cycle and I can still get 25 shots at approximately 40 ft lbs with 21 gn Cudas.
Are those single shots or repeaters?
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Jere, it is their single shot model. He has it at $580 shipped for test and tuned with a hammer debouncer. He does sell an upgraded breech to use with the Marauder Magazine.
Steve, what pellets does your p12 like? Every review I read, they recommended JSB 14 and 18gr.
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Trin, it is not too pellet picky, I have had good success with the Crosman Ultra mags in 14.3, JSB 15.89, JSB 18, and of course my goto pellet is the Baracuda 21 gn. This morning at the WMA I was shooting at carefully selected pine cones ( sized to represent a starling) at a lazered 100 yards and the Cudas made it seem easy.
The Ultra Mags will give you about 40+ shots at about 925 fps, JSB 15.89 about the same. The JSB 18 gn were shooting a ragged hole at 35 yards the last time I played with them, but the Cudas are giving me 40 ft lbs with a nice bcc for hunting and are dead on as well. With the power levels lowered using the Ultra Mags I could shoot the gun in the Den and they might not hear it in the kitchen... ;D
My current scope is a Hawke Vantage SF half mil-dot and I may see if the folks at SWFA will have a Christmas sale as I could not take advantage of the one at Turkey Day.
Standard sling studs can be mounted to the stock, and I have the trigger adjusted so that there is very little first stage and a pull of about 1 lb so you can easily set yours up to the way you like it.
I hope you both enjoy the P12 as much as I have mine.