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Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« on: April 17, 2014, 06:04:51 AM »
I'm looking at these in 22 cal.

Gamo Bone Collector - http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Gamo_Bone_Collector_Bull_Whisper_IGT_Air_Rifle/2706#Specifications
Benjamin Titan GP - http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Titan_GP_Nitro_Piston_Air_Rifle/2603#Specifications
Benjamin Trail NP - http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Trail_NP_Nitro_Piston_Hardwood_air_rifle/2050#Specifications
Gamo Big Cat 1250 - http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Gamo_Big_Cat_with_Nitro_Piston/1784#Specifications

I'm looking for a quality shooter that weighs less than 7 lbs.  The listing on Pyramyd Air shows that the Benjamin Trail NP with the Hardwood stock is 6.65 lbs, but that the Synthetic Stock is 8 lbs.  If anyone can confirm this by actually weighing your gun (weigh yourself and then weigh yourself and your gun if using a digital bathroom scale like me) I'd appreciate it.  If the Benjamin Trail NP is a better gun than the Benjamin Titan GP, then I'll pay the extra $50 for it.  I own a Gamo Big Cat 1250 in 177 cal and love it and I'm about to replace the spring and seals on it.  I know it is light enough and is the reference point for all of this, but I would like to try a different brand at this point.  The Gamo Bone Collector is of particular interest as it weighs only 5.95 lbs, but if the Benjamins are of better quality, then I'd prefer to go that route.

I'm also interested in how hold sensitive each of these are and what hunting pellets you guys have enjoyed with these air rifles (meaning, if you own one of these, which pellets do you like and which gun is it you have  :P ).

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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 08:54:24 AM »
My NP Trail AW weighs in at about 9.5 lbs with the scope on it. It's a moose to carry around all day. Keep in mind, that for a powerful springer, the extra weight helps damp down the recoil some.
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 09:36:24 AM »
I would definitely recommend looking into some Hatsan air rifles. Their quality control is better than Crosman's or Gamo's right now IMO. If you are looking for a light weight rifle, I would look at the Model 85 Sniper. It's available in .177, .22, and .25 caliber. Although it does weigh about 7 pounds, it comes with an included sling and mounts. It's accuracy is awesome as well. Just my $.02
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 11:39:57 AM »
If you are looking for a "quality shooter" as your first sentence states, you really need to look at German rifles rather than the gamo and crosman models you mentioned. They are built like toys compared to the HWs and Dianas and have VERY poor quality control... Spend a bit more and enjoy for a really long time, tk
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 11:56:40 AM »
well my 2 cents ( before taxes )  I have a benji trail np xl 1100  .22  love it  very sturdy and accurate. there are some very good guns out there depends on your budget.  the np is heavy but it decreases the recoil IMO.  like others said though check hatsan, and Diana and rws as well.  as for the titan  pay the extra for the trail
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2014, 03:33:12 PM »
I would avoid the Benji titan because the barrel lockup is very poor-after a while the barrel won't lock into place firmly and you'll lose accuracy.  I have heard the trail is better in that regard, but the crosman trigger is bad...it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be but it is bad.  The SAT on the Gamo Bone collector is smoother and the gun is very quiet.

I would go benji trail (if the weight doesn't bother you too much) or Bone collector IGT (that would be my first choice)
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 03:54:15 PM »
I'm with tomykay 12--save for a German shooter and you will be amazed at the difference in smoothness and quality.  The Diana 34 can be had for $145 refurbished at airgun depot fairly frequently.  The T06 trigger is light years ahead of the Crosman and Gamos ( to be fair, I have not used the new Gamo trigger, but I've not heard anyone compare it to the T06 ).

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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 09:13:30 PM »
I'd avoid Gamo. One thing I've learned in the last couple years that I've been shooting airguns: you get what you pay for. I'd say skip the cheaper stuff and go with an RWS 34 or even better a Discovery. It's really light and you can get the package with the pump for under 400$. But you may not want to spend that much and the pump can have some issues. But I think you'd be ok going with the 34.
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2014, 09:19:29 PM »
D-34 all the way. My .22 should have gone back, but after a great tune and lots of $$$ it was great. My .177 shot 3" groups (10 shots) @ 90 yards out of the box. The only thing with my D-34s is the springs and seal needed replacing after a couple months.
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2014, 09:33:23 PM »
Another vote for the Diana 34.
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2014, 09:41:13 PM »
Best break barrel IMO would be none of those OP has listed.
Having owned 2 of the Crosman & Stoeger / B19 platform rifles .... never again !!

Not to sound the snob ... want something honestly in the best running for top break barrel spring guns at a modest weight .... HW95/98
HW 50 family of German air guns.
For an inexpensive AG ... Diana D34's with TO-6 triggers are one fine choice also.
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2014, 09:50:10 PM »
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 10:15:11 PM »
My D34 in .177 is a lazer beam, has been since out of the box. That being said, I have a 350 mag in .177 that I can't seem to tame though.

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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2014, 10:19:26 PM »
 Id say an RWS D34 .177. FOr a very beginner shooter...like &&#(#@)@) id get a Bronco.

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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2014, 10:25:18 PM »
Id say an RWS D34 .177. FOr a very beginner shooter...like &&#(#@)@) id get a Bronco.

I will never own another Bronco. Mine shot like a shotgun I had 6" or more groups at 30 yards.
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2014, 10:41:47 PM »
I would say a Weirauch airgun.  HW95 is a bit over 7lbs.  but the 50 and 30 are under 7lbs.  JMO
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2014, 07:08:27 AM »
Ditto .... what Scott (Motorhead) said ...
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2014, 11:39:08 AM »
I would put away some more dough and get a diana 54 or air arms tx200, from what I've read these two are the creme' de la creme', last more than a lifetime and stay a little more accurate do to the fixed barrel
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2014, 07:24:37 PM »
I would look at the Walther LGV.....

Out of all the currently produced air rifles I've had my hands on the LGV is by far my favorite
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Re: Best Break Barrel Air Rifle
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2014, 08:37:18 PM »
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