Guess I'm crazy lucky then on the HW95 .22 barrel lottery. Bought mine during the AOA $299.99 sale. Brand new out of the box, no mods, not tuned, no trigger tweaks. Shot about 50, mounted a Hawke Airmax 3-9x40 scope, got dialed in and shot this......Shoots Air Arms Falcons even better and when I'm having a good day it will park 5 under a dime at 25 yards and 5 under a nickel when I'm off a bit which is more often than not...lol.
Derrek just get a Hw95k in 22 and kit it. When you are ready I'll walk you through the tune. Easy peasy. My 177 95 shoots very well in (same POI) all reasonable temps. Not sure what the deal is with your 85.I'm considering buying a Hw95 Luxus in 22 myself
Quote from: jusanothajoe on February 03, 2021, 08:31:08 AMHmmm, so far I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling about the EMS.I really wanted to hear that the EMS was an improved version of the 34, not just you can swap barrels etc.For the record, I'm not considering this gun for it's flexibility, or adaptability, I want a smooth, accurate .22 springer.I won't be swapping anything, will shoot this gun as is from now on, with the exception I will tune, and may add a moderator.The only reason I considered something besides an HW, is because I have owned two .22 HW guns and I never got the accuracy I get with my .177's or .20's, so I was willing to try the EMS.Derrek,With the EMS system you want the gas spring not the coil spring. Gas springs have a snappier shot cycle, do not fatigue if left cocked, are less temperature sensitive, have linear cocking effort.-Y
Hmmm, so far I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling about the EMS.I really wanted to hear that the EMS was an improved version of the 34, not just you can swap barrels etc.For the record, I'm not considering this gun for it's flexibility, or adaptability, I want a smooth, accurate .22 springer.I won't be swapping anything, will shoot this gun as is from now on, with the exception I will tune, and may add a moderator.The only reason I considered something besides an HW, is because I have owned two .22 HW guns and I never got the accuracy I get with my .177's or .20's, so I was willing to try the EMS.
Quote from: jusanothajoe on February 03, 2021, 08:31:08 AMHmmm, so far I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling about the EMS.I really wanted to hear that the EMS was an improved version of the 34, not just you can swap barrels etc.For the record, I'm not considering this gun for it's flexibility, or adaptability, I want a smooth, accurate .22 springer.I won't be swapping anything, will shoot this gun as is from now on, with the exception I will tune, and may add a moderator.The only reason I considered something besides an HW, is because I have owned two .22 HW guns and I never got the accuracy I get with my .177's or .20's, so I was willing to try the EMS.Well, "improved" it is, just not obvious nor visible.But let's dissect your message:"Not swapping anything" and then "I will tune and may add a moderator". Hmmmm...The 34 is an improved version MAINLY in two things that make it stand head and shoulders above the 95:1.- The barrel is not "press-fit" into the breech block. When you clean the barrel you get the initial resistance of the pellet skirt, then the skirt gets swaged down to the grooves, the head gets swaged down to the rifling and it is exactly the same very light resistance all along the barrel till you get to the choke. No tight spots. Try that with any other breakbarrel.2.- The cocking linkage is now a compound linkage, so that cocking effort is lower than it is in the "normal" 34 or 340. That makes for more pleasant shooting which should translate into more shooting, more practice and more practical accuracy in the field.You want to "tune it", well you have three completely different tunes to look into:a) Change the powerplant to NTec, this will drive the power up to the 20 ft-lbs region while keeping the accuracy. Parts to do that are available as spares for the 340 NTec right now.b) Change the guide to an ABP (Anti-Bounce Piston) unit, get the same efficiency as the coil-spring'ed guns with the shot cycle "deadness" of a gas springc) Simply drop in any of the DIANA 34 aftermarket springs that are made for the OEM guide and be done with it."May add a moderator"The 34 EMS comes with the 1/2"X20 UNF almost universal thread for the muzzle device of your choice, you have available from mods that add length and mass to the barrel to mods that use the Reflex architecture and do not add more than 2" to the OAL and less than 4 Oz to the OAW.A much more practical field system.I just packed the first one to be delivered from here, I followed the barrel "running in" process that we have as standard, these are the 10 first cleanings (1 shot-CLEAN, 1 shot-CLEAN, etc):As the shots went by the gun started to settle and after shot 25 we shot some groups (shots 26-30 and shots 31-35), offhand, 10 meters, factory sights (sorry I pulled shot #35, but I was getting tired):I got the trigger tuned in less than 5 shots to the point where there is ABSOLUTELY NO CREEP. The weight will have to be tuned by the end user, but the crispness is far better than any other airgun trigger out there.And the trigger is the single most important factor in the shootability of an airgun.There are more things, about the EMS, but you have stated for the record, that you are not interested in them.Still the points mentioned should tell you that this is "Not just another 34";-)Keep well and shoot straight!HM
Sorry for the late reply, but I have been even busier than usual . . .Derrek & Chemclay.- Yes I do sell them, the advantage of getting one from me is that it will be thoroughly checked before it leaves the workshop.The NTec gas spring is a really interesting unit, it is FAR more efficient than the traditional Theoben-designed guns, so it needs less cocking force for the same output, and it provides power with shootability. I have placed second in Pyramyd Air's "Gunslinger" two years in a row with an NTec powered 0.20" cal 34. The Gunslynger is a speed - silhouette shooting competition that is shot "Mano a Mano", meaning that you shoot against one guy and the winner advances in the rounds. I am not that fast a shooter, I really credit my results to the shootability of the NTec gas spring. So, while it may not be "in your radar", at some point you MAY want to try it? And then spending $120 (cost of conversion) beats spending $350 - $380 just to try.;-)I never test a gun in the chrono before the full "running-in" has taken place, but you can be sure that the guns will deliver 15-16 ft-lbs with mid-weight lead pellets (14 to 16 grs) . With the NTec power plant and the GTO pellets (10.75 grs) you can reach 20 accurate Ft-Lbs.At present, the gun is not sold with an NTec unit and needs to be converted. Perhaps in the second "long run", but I cannot guarantee it.SteveP-52 and Yogi.- The barrel is fitted into the breechblock with three devices:1.- There are "interference fit rings" in the barrel shank2.- There is a crown nut that pulls the barrel into place and affixes it. There is a special tool to loosen this nut.3.- The "axle" pin where the block turns has a corresponding cavity in the shank.No grub screws. No unilateral forces. You NEED to take the block out to change the barrel.The piston/spring guide can be easily converted into an ABP, the trigger is the fastest trigger currently in production. Just adjust it to your liking and shoot.;-)Keep well and shoot straight!HM
Hector,Can you post a schematic of the piston?Also, can the barrel be upward sloped with shims? Would help at 100 yards... Is the stock inletting the same as a regular Diana 34?Thanks in advance,-YogiHow much different do you expect the 34 gas piston to be compared to your 340 N-tec?Ron
Hector,Can you post a schematic of the piston?Also, can the barrel be upward sloped with shims? Would help at 100 yards... Is the stock inletting the same as a regular Diana 34?Thanks in advance,-Yogi