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Yng@hrt
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Real Name: Marty
Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #140 on:
November 18, 2018, 10:04:34 AM »
I hope so too Steve. The previous owner sent detailed photos. That thing must have sat in that attic a long time. I'm pretty sure he was right when he stated in his ad his gun is better than that other one. Everything about looks better; gun, box, & docs. I guess we'll know shortly.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
Yng@hrt
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #141 on:
November 20, 2018, 08:19:11 AM »
1942 Benji 312.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
TerryM
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #142 on:
November 20, 2018, 09:33:10 AM »
Outstanding!
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101, 108, 110, 112, 113, 114 (x2), 118,
140, 180 (x3), 187, 400, Mark II, 1377, 1322, 150, 122CG, Sears 126.19311, Ted Williams Match Rifle (2nd variant 160) Self made 180-400-114 hybrid carbine
Benjamin model#
312(x2), 317, 342, Discovery
Sheridan:
Blue Streak (x2: '64, '67)
F model CO2 Blue Streak (converted to bulk fill)
Yng@hrt
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #143 on:
November 20, 2018, 09:54:58 AM »
Thanks Terry. Bare with me. This is going to take a while....
Significant docs dating this Benjamin 1940 - 1942
‘Valuable Information’ dated 1942.
‘Be Prepared!’ 1940-1942; Patriot Minute Man w/green background, first Benjamin HC pellet graphics, also shown on box.
‘Instruction Sheet For Benjamin Air Rifles’, 1940-1942; shows Benjamin Steel Dart, Cal. .22, per dozen (out of stock).
‘Registration Card’. 1940-?. Consistant with early model docs.
‘H C Benjamin’ pellets. Label consistent with early Benjamin ammo.
‘Western Steel Air rifle Shot’. Trev’s Airgun Scrapbook with the caption; “Western Air Rifle Shot Advert, 1940”.
'25 FEET 'BB' TARGET' 106 count. Consistent with Instruction Sheet 'Ammunition And Tools'.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
Yng@hrt
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Posts: 4163
Benjaholic
Real Name: Marty
Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #144 on:
November 20, 2018, 10:22:05 AM »
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
Yng@hrt
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Benjaholic
Real Name: Marty
Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #145 on:
November 20, 2018, 11:13:21 AM »
Upper left hand corner is a 'Order Blank' dated January 12, 1959, for 'Trigger Mounting' part#-307 ($.50), & 'Trigger Pin' part#-304 ($.10). The 1940-42 'Instruction Sheet' lists them at these prices. The later 'Instruction Sheet' shown here prices them at $.75 & $.10. If you recall I had to replace the same mount on the first one.
The 'Benjamin Beacon' & the 'Focus Your Eye on Benjamin' are dated 1959. My guess is these came with the owners order including the Instruction Sheet or are from another gun.
Lead ammo with black lid. Couldn't find an approximate date on these. Not sure why I included the Kodak tin other than I thought it was kinda cool.
Last pic; envelope inside box for bolt handle.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
19Sheridan57
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #146 on:
November 20, 2018, 11:50:41 AM »
Wow !!!!
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #147 on:
November 20, 2018, 01:03:42 PM »
Amazing Marty!
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #148 on:
November 20, 2018, 02:15:33 PM »
What a time capsule you've got there , congratulations and thanks for sharing it with us.
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Yng@hrt
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #149 on:
November 20, 2018, 04:43:39 PM »
Thanks fellas! Pretty excited about this one.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
Andrew
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #150 on:
November 20, 2018, 05:13:22 PM »
Amazing.
When you get time, please give us more pics.
I'll need a box of tissues to wipe the drool off my keyboard on this one.
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Yng@hrt
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Posts: 4163
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Real Name: Marty
Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #151 on:
November 20, 2018, 06:46:43 PM »
Thanks Andrew. I'll take some side by side of this 312 & the first one. They look identical except for the 'BENJAMIN FRANKLIN' stamp below the cam plate. One is positioned higher than the other. Going to have to figure out what's going on there.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
Yng@hrt
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Posts: 4163
Benjaholic
Real Name: Marty
Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #152 on:
January 16, 2019, 10:41:31 PM »
Spent some time working on the latest prewar 312 today as it wasn't holding air. As I suspected the leather cup was frozen closed & the spring washer was collapsed, as was the case with the first one. Cleaned & lubed it & re-positioned the springs in the washer. Cleaned all parts & lubed all pivot points then fed the cup back into the tube as open as possible. Still no compression...flushed with alcohol & in about 4 hours the piston started to hold. I still can't get over what a great feeling that is when the valve starts working as it should.
I'll chrony him tomorrow & begin taking side by side pix as promised.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
Yng@hrt
GTA Senior Contributor
Posts: 4163
Benjaholic
Real Name: Marty
Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #153 on:
January 18, 2019, 06:43:11 AM »
Side by side pix. I'd have to give the latest 312 a slight edge; condition, & docs. Muzzle velocity; almost identical.
The only difference between the two is the positioning of the "BENJAMIN FRANKLIN" stamp on the left side of the tube below the cam plate (photo w/arrows).
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
Yng@hrt
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Posts: 4163
Benjaholic
Real Name: Marty
Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #154 on:
January 18, 2019, 06:54:47 AM »
By the numbers; CPHP 14.3gr. 5 shot avg.
First 312
;
Pumps
FPS
FPE
6 528.6 8.87
7 552.7 9.70
8 577.5 10.59
2nd 312;
6 543.5 9.4
7 555 9.7
8 561.7 10
Will try & get some bench time with both sometime today.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
RBQChicken
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #155 on:
January 18, 2019, 08:20:35 AM »
Interesting how one is darker than the other. Do you think they used a tinted finish on that one?
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Yng@hrt
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Benjaholic
Real Name: Marty
Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #156 on:
January 18, 2019, 08:33:27 AM »
No tint used Randy. The inner part of American Black Walnut can be anything from a rich brown to a deep purplish brown. Other types of walnut heartwood can also be anywhere from a pale brown to a dark chocolate brown with even darker brown streaks in it, with reddish or grey tone. Walnut sapwood, which is the living, outer part of walnut trunk or branches, can be bright white to a creamy, almost yellowish, grey.
Most of my guns are of the darker tone while a few are light in color.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #157 on:
January 18, 2019, 09:54:08 AM »
Very nice Marty!
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Yng@hrt
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #158 on:
January 18, 2019, 03:07:48 PM »
Thank you Dave. Pretty exited with these two little Benji's. Wanted to try them out today. Managed to get a couple shots off before the cold & wind started to crank. Hate to say it but it looks like I'll need to mount a couple of scopes. Just couldn't seed the 10M target.
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Benji's;
2-Prewar '42 312's, '68 312, '69 347, '82-'86 342 (checkered), 'Centennial' Model 87, '90 342 (none checkered), 2-'91 S392P's, '93 S397P, '93 397P, '94 397C, '95 S397P, '96 392PA (w/"P" trigger group), & a '53 137 pistol.
Dan's;
'98 Model C9PB '50th Anniversary', several Vintage Silver & Blue Streaks, including a '69 Silver w/factory Williams, H9 & H9A.
Daisy's;
2-Model 21's, 882 w/factory Williams, boxed Sears 'Golden Spike', Christmas Dream 20,25,30,35
Favorite everyday plinker/pester '71 880.
cmhobbs
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Re: Rare Benjamin 312
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Reply #159 on:
January 18, 2019, 04:36:48 PM »
Quote from: Yng@hrt on July 30, 2018, 05:07:38 PM
& I thought my Benji collection was getting out of hand...
Looks like it's just getting started to me...
Congrats on scoring the 312!
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