I have two of the Hatsan .25 springers (gas rams, really) and am quite pleased with them. The first one had to be returned for an out-of-spec barrel but their customer service was excellent; they replaced that 100x Torpedo springer with a brand new Vortex version. The other .25 is a 125 Sniper Vortex that I really enjoy.I'll poke around and see if I have any chronological testing results from the Hatsans I shoot.Tight groups,Bob
I do not have a Hatsan springer but from all accounts the gas ram .25 seems to be the best performing .25 springer and it can be rebuilt like the ram in the Beeman RX2. Hatsan gives "Realistic" chrony tests results and again from all GTA member reports their advertised chrony results do not seem to be inflated. In fact the only negative I have ever seen is the Hatsan rifles all are on the hefty side. Another plus is the wood stocks all seem to be nicely made with decent quality Turkish walnut .
If memory serves the Hatsan 135 and the Turkish built Webley Patriot are basically the same rifle. Neither of them comes in a synthetic stock though.
Based on my experience I wouldn't recommend the Hatsan 125 in .25. I have two Hatsan 125 springers: One in .22 and one in .25. The .22 is way more accurate than the .25. My .25 just doesn't group well with any pellets I have tried.
Quote from: AHMSA on February 12, 2019, 11:25:59 AMBased on my experience I wouldn't recommend the Hatsan 125 in .25. I have two Hatsan 125 springers: One in .22 and one in .25. The .22 is way more accurate than the .25. My .25 just doesn't group well with any pellets I have tried.You know how it is with air rifles, some will only shoot one pellet, some anything, and some none.
Quote from: jaed.43725 on February 12, 2019, 11:48:40 AMQuote from: AHMSA on February 12, 2019, 11:25:59 AMBased on my experience I wouldn't recommend the Hatsan 125 in .25. I have two Hatsan 125 springers: One in .22 and one in .25. The .22 is way more accurate than the .25. My .25 just doesn't group well with any pellets I have tried.You know how it is with air rifles, some will only shoot one pellet, some anything, and some none.Absolutely. I'm thinking of trying to find someone who works on them and sending it to get it tuned/fixed. I would love to have it group well.Have you considered the .30 caliber Hatsan 135 QE? I'm thinking of getting one.
Quote from: AHMSA on February 12, 2019, 11:52:30 AMQuote from: jaed.43725 on February 12, 2019, 11:48:40 AMQuote from: AHMSA on February 12, 2019, 11:25:59 AMBased on my experience I wouldn't recommend the Hatsan 125 in .25. I have two Hatsan 125 springers: One in .22 and one in .25. The .22 is way more accurate than the .25. My .25 just doesn't group well with any pellets I have tried.You know how it is with air rifles, some will only shoot one pellet, some anything, and some none.Absolutely. I'm thinking of trying to find someone who works on them and sending it to get it tuned/fixed. I would love to have it group well.Have you considered the .30 caliber Hatsan 135 QE? I'm thinking of getting one.I thought about it. But as limited as .25 ammo is, and with the rainbow I have to deal with anyway, I don't want to make it any worse
I think one of the biggest benefits of the gas ram for magnums is the lack or torque. It really helps with the hold sensitivity.
Quote from: SteveP-52 on February 12, 2019, 11:10:29 AMIf memory serves the Hatsan 135 and the Turkish built Webley Patriot are basically the same rifle. Neither of them comes in a synthetic stock though.For Max power I can do wood if I have to.
Quote from: jaed.43725 on February 12, 2019, 11:46:18 AMQuote from: SteveP-52 on February 12, 2019, 11:10:29 AMIf memory serves the Hatsan 135 and the Turkish built Webley Patriot are basically the same rifle. Neither of them comes in a synthetic stock though.For Max power I can do wood if I have to.Let's ask things this way: What kind of power aka FPE are you looking for?