Well at least now we know why they were discontinued... -Y
Agree. It had such potential. Just had some of those "what were they thinking" design quirks.
Quote from: Yogi on February 26, 2024, 03:46:35 PMWell at least now we know why they were discontinued... -Y Yeah Y,For a FWB quality gun to sell only sell 607 FAC units (over 8 years) tell you that something was incongruent with reality on that gun.In hindsight, the low output is now viewed by some as the equivalent of a "custom gun" ....... I'm sure they would have made more of them if they could have sold 'em.Most companies are eager to sell their product given substantial investment - Right?Now, the FWB 124 is a very deserving of being called a classic airgun ........... ................ by most standards the FWB Sport should (now) be considered a rare gun, a financial mistake for the company and a semi-flop from airgunners.The gun had many great qualities, but some nagging issues hindering it's acceptance. - Hector has more insight on this.
Quote from: SpiralGroove on February 27, 2024, 10:59:41 AMQuote from: Yogi on February 26, 2024, 03:46:35 PMWell at least now we know why they were discontinued... -Y Yeah Y,For a FWB quality gun to sell only sell 607 FAC units (over 8 years) tell you that something was incongruent with reality on that gun.In hindsight, the low output is now viewed by some as the equivalent of a "custom gun" ....... I'm sure they would have made more of them if they could have sold 'em.Most companies are eager to sell their product given substantial investment - Right?Now, the FWB 124 is a very deserving of being called a classic airgun ........... ................ by most standards the FWB Sport should (now) be considered a rare gun, a financial mistake for the company and a semi-flop from airgunners.The gun had many great qualities, but some nagging issues hindering it's acceptance. - Hector has more insight on this.Well said! Much more articulate than I will ever be. You should be a Politician. -Y
The, "produced in small quantities until 2022." suggests that FWB knew exactly what they were doing in terms of producing a legacy air rifle, especially when viewed in the light of the original FWB production numbers. A total of 607 guns produced over a period of 8 years barely constitutes a "test run" in terms of worldwide distribution. If ALL of the Sports were not manufactured on the same production run, taking the time and expense to commission and decommission a production line for a few guns at a time speaks more to a labour of love than a mistake in design and marketing. After all, nobody accuses The Macallan, Rolex, Porsche, Van Cleef & Arpels, Ferragamo, or any other luxury brand of producing "flops" when they market an item in small numbers over several years. Those, "what were they thinking moments" apply to every marque I've come across at one time or another, no matter the line of business. HW/Beeman spring guides anyone? No parts and minimal ability to do home maintenance on the ASP? Bad triggers on the LGV/LGU?
Touche!
Bought mine Nov. 2021 from AOA. Serial is 124005XX. Paid $500. I remember speaking to the AOA rep about scope mounting and the lack of bases to fit the proprietary (I think) semi-circular grooves milled in the Sport's receiver. He assured me that regular Hawke bases with the pin stop would work fine. Well, they did not. The scope crept after 150 or so shots. This was a common issue and was discussed here at the time. Forum member Razor62 advised me to switch to BKL mounts and also install a Sportsmatch stop. I did this, and it seems to be holding after ~350 additional shots. The plastic trigger guard is kind of off-putting for a rifle I believe retailed, aspirationally at least, for about $900 when introduced. Also, you have to smack the muzzle fairly hard to break it open for cocking. On the good side, the trigger smoothness and crispness is better than any other springer (7 Weihrachs, Walther LGV) I have, except for old R10 tuned by forum member Spiralgroove. I'm getting about 13 fpe. Accuracy is well above my ability to hold offhand. It's a good rifle but not my favorite.
Which do you think is the biggest contributor to stopping your scope creep?