Cooool! Did you make that yourself? Parts list? Or maybe make another for $???
Hey Dave S. Sooooo. Over the last week or so I've managed to get a nice 2nd variation 130 in hand, I have a MKII and a 150 on the way, and ,I just got a 116 in the original box, with an original Crosman black steel co2 tank that works, and still has gas in it. Tested both the 112 and the 116 and both function correctly with small leaks. Unfortunately every one of them needs a seal job. I guess I will be learning the ins and outs of Crosman pistol repair one model at a time! LOL.
A perpetual scrounger, I managed to find a 20 pounder at an estate sale for $5. Of course, a hydro test was needed, got that and the first fill for $65. The tank hadn't been used in 50 years and was fine, ready to go. No siphon, so I made a wooden stand to hold it upside down. A scale is important to be sure your small tank isn't over-filled. I vent off any excess CO2 before it warms to room temp. The same scale is handy to see how much goes from paintball tank into gun.
Using the 12 gram charger to refill a bulk pistol is so simple and WAY cheaper to do if you only have one or two guns to deal with, especially if you don't shoot much. And not many people are carrying around a 20oz, or even a 4oz bottle to refill guns in the field. A pocket of 12 grams and the charger in your back pocket works just as good without 20lb tanks, to fill your 20oz or other bottles, so you can fill your pistols or rifles, all the while limiting your shots to what's in your gun... unless you want to carry a big co2 tank with you as well.
Quote from: 1900colt on July 19, 2021, 09:29:02 AMUsing the 12 gram charger to refill a bulk pistol is so simple and WAY cheaper to do if you only have one or two guns to deal with, especially if you don't shoot much. And not many people are carrying around a 20oz, or even a 4oz bottle to refill guns in the field. A pocket of 12 grams and the charger in your back pocket works just as good without 20lb tanks, to fill your 20oz or other bottles, so you can fill your pistols or rifles, all the while limiting your shots to what's in your gun... unless you want to carry a big co2 tank with you as well.Couple of questions. What are you using to charge your 12 gr carts? Are you freezing the carts before filling and weighing the carts against the TARE weight? One more thing...it's not a good idea to leave any CO2 gun uncharged.... for several good reasons! Just my 2 cents! dave
It seems to me the model 112 bulk fill would need more than 12g's for a decent enough fill to shoot properly/to full extent? I have one I need to try before doing anything else. Gotta hit up mac1 for the fill kit. Don't want to attach anything to shoot, just fill.
Hello Everyone, I am working on a Crosman Model 113 .177 caliber Co2 Bulk Fill Air Rifle. Here is the setup I just purchased from Mac1 for filling my 113 (This setup is what Tim told me to use when I spoke with him about needed items): http://www.mac1airgunshop.com/quick-co2-filler-w-bleeder-p/m1ttslqc.htm ($50.00)http://www.mac1airgunshop.com/male-quick-connect-p/psi18mqc.htm ($6.00)Shipping ($8.00) 20 ounce paintball tank from local sporting goods store: ($24.99)Co2 Tank Fill ($3.25)Seal kit: ($21.95)Total cost of fill system setup and seal kit: $114.19 In my opinion what Tim reccomended I purchase is the only reliable way and closest to original intent to properly fill a bulk fill Co2 Airgun of any type in modern times. I thought about the adapter as well but came to understand it most likely would need to remain in place and potentially creating an obstruction of the barrel. Total cost of my 113 restoration project: $214.19Model 113 purchase price: $25.00Adapter parts, tank and seal kit: $114.19Rear sight, front plug, safety spring and steel balls and butt plate: $75.00While this appears to be alot I am doing it for myself not for resale so cost is relative when it comes to fun and wanting to see this one work like it did 60+ years ago and besides now I am setup for other bul fill airguns if I wish to pursue other models. I've know Tim for over 30+ years now. He'll NEVER steer you wrong! Welcome to the Club! dave
There are some rather confusing posts in this thread. I've never tried one of these 12 gram "fill" devices but, most bulk fill guns have a much greater capacity than 12 grams. A Crosman 114 rifle safely holds around 70 grams. When mine are down to 12, they are about to the point where velocity and consistency are dropping off, I usually top them off before that. I would be interested to try one of these gizmos to see how well it worked loading multiple 12 gram carts into a gun. Tedious but probably works fine, does anyone do this?
I was hoping it wouldn't need seals? But I'm prepared for the worst. I have the tools and time...