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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Guns And Related Accessories Review Gates => Scopes And Optics Gate => Topic started by: Kragman1 on June 28, 2021, 11:40:33 PM
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I know they're cheap.
But I've heard tell on the internet that people like them and that they hold up to normal springer use. One man spoke of his holding up long term on a Hatsan 125.
Can anyone here corroborate that (in general, not on something like a 125).
It seems like an awful lot to ask of a $25 to $80 scope.
Thanks in advance.
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I know they're cheap.
But I've heard tell on the internet that people like them and that they hold up to normal springer use. One man spoke of his holding up long term on a Hatsan 125.
Can anyone here corroborate that (in general, not on something like a 125).
It seems like an awful lot to ask of a $25 to $80 scope.
Thanks in advance.
Not that I know, but springer scoping is that you buy, you try, and hope it don't make you cry.
Heck even the better brands like hawke some don't make it .
You know you could buy 2 of them put on the same rifle one may bust quick or something one may last .
You roll them dice and hope it's not snake eyes.
Over all if it does bust are you out or easy to chunk it and know better next time? Or is it a 0 question full life warranty where you at least get easy replacement?
Anyway that's how I see it and just opinion.
Good luck
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Its just a little 12oz 3-9x40 AO mildot that I sprang $30 for.
If it works on light springers, that will be great. I have a couple that need glass that dials down to 10 yards.
If it holds up on one of my mid-range springers like my 94, thats a huge win.
If not, well, maybe I shouldn't cruise ebay late at night.....
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Its just a little 12oz 3-9x40 AO mildot that I sprang $30 for.
If it works on light springers, that will be great. I have a couple that need glass that dials down to 10 yards.
If it holds up on one of my mid-range springers like my 94, thats a huge win.
If not, well, maybe I shouldn't cruise ebay late at night.....
Ya I got them that claim down to 10 yards.
Well.....
Funny I got a Gamo package scope the only is focused between 30 and 50 clearly, but anything else blurry ,
After you shoot you got to turn the power ring to 3 then back to what ever your shooting at ( best clarity at 8...lol. With all that mess the darn thing holds zero .
I rattled like 4 scopes on this one rifle but for what it is it right back on and shooting when I go off open sight. Poor thing it's sad but it stays true.
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i've have 3 and they last surprisingly well so far!
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The best thing you can do for any scope you mount on a piston gun is to adjust the gun and or the mount to be near optical center at your intended zero. Much of what destroys springer scopes is barrel droop. Running the scope with the elevation maxed out (or near it) runs the erector tube close to the ceiling of the scope body and relaxes the return spring. The return spring can't provide enough pressure to hold zero against a springer recoil. This is why many scopes people think are busted will hold zero and work fine on other rifles without droop.
Also with the elevation adjustment run very high the erector tube can rub or bounce off the ceiling of the scope body. This impact can break and or rotate reticle. It can also wear the aluminum components and coat the interior with aluminum dust deminishing optical clarity.
Scopes shouldn't take more than a rotation from optical center to zero elevation and windage. Rotation and a half tops. Most scopes have a total of 5 or 6 rotations from end to end.
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Bay man - you are absolutely right.
That post should be a sticky!
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I have the 6-24x50 but under a different name, put it on a PCP, it is a decent scope, not a true 24X, more like a 16X but I don't know if it would handle the recoil of a Hatsan 25 or Diana Springer. If you are in doubt I would just get a Diana Bullseye mount which should save it if it can't handle the recoil.
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I have been looking at these CVLife scopes for my Crosman nitro piston rifle. I contacted the company and asked if they would hold up and they said they were not sure but they do have a 1 year warranty. May be worth a shot just to find out.
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Bay man - you are absolutely right.
That post should be a sticky!
Thank you
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X10 Bayman! I always try to use low profile rings too on a springer . keep the scope as close to the barrel as you can. Not sure if it helps but the logic seems right!
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Well, I mounted it on the reduced power Ruger AH I bought from Flying Dragon. Seems like an excellent match but I haven't sighted it in yet. Maybe tonight if I get everything done that needs doing.
If all goes well, I'll have $100 invested in an adult sized scoped rifle that has a good trigger, clear glass that focuses to 5 yards (I checked), is accurate at basement range and is super easy to cock.
Its no HW30, but it fills that role for me.
Bonus points for shooting the Daisy alloy pellets respectably.
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Brian I've just ordered one of those reduced power Ruger AH from Mike. A CVLife scope might be an option in the future. I plan on keeping this rifle with open sights because about 20 yds is the farthest my eyesight will allow with open sights. I'll be interested in how your CVLife scope works out.
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Well, I had mixed results....
The scope didn't have any issues with recoil for the 35-40 shots I put through it.
Not much of a test to be sure, but hey it takes time for time to tell.
But - I had to run the windage all the way to the left to be close at 10 yards. I really doubt that its an issue with the mount but I will try it with a different mount JIC.
Glass is actually pretty nice, all the adjustments feel good, it mounts beautifully low on my rifle, etc. But the windage is goofy.
If it is bad (very likely is) I will try to work with CV life. Doubt I will get far as I did not buy it from their web store. That was my gamble, no regrets.
I would buy a new one directly from them based on how much I like everything else about the scope. But I may mount this one on a Hatsan or something to see how it holds up. Like I said I really like it otherwise.
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It seems that the CV Life scope is just fine.
I had a little time to look into this today, so I mounted a second scope and got practically identical results.
Took a harder look at my setup and it seems to be a combination of a minor cant of the barrel to the right, and possibly a slightly mis-machined 11mm dovetail on the main tube.
If I can't find a set of Millet Angle-Loks I will probably just lean on the barrel until POI matches POA with a centered scope.
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I wouldn't put them on a magnum springer.
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I wouldn't put them on a magnum springer.
Me either!
But then, I don't really know what holds up to a magnum anyway. Something with a foolproof warranty I suppose....
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I wouldn't put them on a magnum springer.
Me either!
But then, I don't really know what holds up to a magnum anyway. Something with a foolproof warranty I suppose....
Lately I've been buying Simmons and CP at Walmart. Easy to return.
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In extremely limited use, I like the little CV Life 3-9x40 AO. Focuses to 5 yards or less, perfectly good glass, turrets dial properly with no slop or mush, power ring is smooth on both, AO ring not as nice on both but OK, mildot reticle is useful (I don't know if its accurate though). Would be a great small money rimfire scope even if they dont hold up to springers...
"They" say that the Center Points hold up too.
I have a 3-12 (I think) side focus stashed somewhere.
I think I'll try it on the Hatsan 125 I ordered.
What coukd go wrong...? ha ha
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I am still on the fence about ordering the 3-9 x 40 AO scope. Sent the manufacturer an email to ask if they would hold up to a nitro piston rifle. He stated that he wasn’t sure but the scope had a full 1 year warranty. I would order direct from them instead of amazon.
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Well, mine just held up to 9 or 10 shots on a Hatsan 125, so, you know, total confidence.... ha ha
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Well, I got another 20-25 shots through the 125 this week and the scope is still good.
I really need to get it off that Hatsan 125 though...
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I've killed quite a few low end scopes. Most lasted at least 100 shots before problems appeared. Almost all were the scope included in the purchase. The CenterPoint and Hatsan combo scopes were a joke. Actually the only "good" scope I ever received that came with a rifle purchase was the Browning 3x9 that came on my Browning Leverage.
I've had pretty good luck with Hammers scopes, if you keep your receipt they'll send you a new scope for a $10 fee and if you don't have a receipt you can mail your scope to them along with a $10 MO and you'll get a new scope.
I've noticed the CV line of scopes on Amazon but I've been spoiled by the clarity of Hawke scopes not to mention their excellent warranty so I would probably go with them.
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"I've been spoiled by the clarity of Hawke scopes not to mention their excellent warranty"
Same here! While the Hawke scopes I've used aren't the "best available" they are good enough, hold up to my recoiling springers and have really good customer service when needed. The Hawke I'm currently using is the Hawke 4-16x44 Airmax 30 SF Compact Riflescope retailing for about $390.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hawke-4-16x44-airmax-30-sf-compact-riflescope-ill-amx-ir-1-10-mrad?a=8968 (https://www.pyramydair.com/product/hawke-4-16x44-airmax-30-sf-compact-riflescope-ill-amx-ir-1-10-mrad?a=8968)
(https://i.imgur.com/hDZWgq8.jpg)