"Don't you think that a 0.770"- 0.118" is a little light for an R9 to begin with."Nope, I've been using ARH E3650s for years and it has 35 coils of .120 wire wound with a .515ID (.755OD) which is very similar. With the Vortek spring I started with a CPL velocity of 910fps and replaced the spring when the velocity dropped to 880fps a couple months later. "After almost six years, yada yada yada, Vortek kit finally broke"Neither of the Vortek springs broke, they simply sagged with less than a case of CPLs. "if they don't Tom at Vortek will make it right."Yes, that's true, Tom offered to replace the original PG spring kit with open spring ends that failed after I called him but I declined because I didn't want to do a re-spring every few months when I was shooting field target matches. I was only calling him to make the issue known, not to get a replacement since other field target shooters at that time told me they had the exact same issue.
Quote from: nced on October 14, 2021, 04:21:16 PM"Don't you think that a 0.770"- 0.118" is a little light for an R9 to begin with."Nope, I've been using ARH E3650s for years and it has 35 coils of .120 wire wound with a .515ID (.755OD) which is very similar. With the Vortek spring I started with a CPL velocity of 910fps and replaced the spring when the velocity dropped to 880fps a couple months later. "After almost six years, yada yada yada, Vortek kit finally broke"Neither of the Vortek springs broke, they simply sagged with less than a case of CPLs. "if they don't Tom at Vortek will make it right."Yes, that's true, Tom offered to replace the original PG spring kit with open spring ends that failed after I called him but I declined because I didn't want to do a re-spring every few months when I was shooting field target matches. I was only calling him to make the issue known, not to get a replacement since other field target shooters at that time told me they had the exact same issue.Fwiw using just spring diameter and thicknesses isn't a necessarily apples to apples comparison. Material has a lot to do with it too. The factory Hw95 spring is about 0.805" & 0.123" and 33.5 coils.You're so engrossed in the details and defending your position, you totally missed the simple point of my post. Times change and so do products. We should occasionally reevaluate our prejudices.For decades I turned off people from reels that I knew nothing about because Diawa already discontinued the reels that failed on my friend and me. Be wellRon
Dang.... It's like the Ford guy vs. the Chevy guy now...lol
The forks are usually are spread more than the combined thickness of the breech and shims. The wear isn't from uneven tension it's from the sharp side of the shim being installed against the breech. If you look at the shims they are stamped out 0.004“ shim stock. From the stamping process it cups the edges of the shim often leaving sharp edges. If the shim was installed upside down, adjusted too tight (common from the factory) or lubed incorrectly it will score the bluing on the breech.I'm not saying that you can't add a shim if you want. I'm saying that it isn't required and the scoring isn't from what you think. Also if you have barrel droop it's probably due to the cocking linkage binding against the underside of the breech. Pretty common on the new guns. All you got do is slight bend the cocking arm about 3" back from the first bend so the cocking arm hook comes up (towards the compression tube) about 3 or 4mm