#swamp hunter thanks for the advice, I am new here and don't know if it's appropriate to talk pcp in the springer page, however I know little about the umarex gauntlet, and unfamiliar with urban, which is better? if I am buying a pcp gun I would hope for the ability to moderate fps, is it adjustable? Subsonic? In the 25, and is it capable of shooting the "slug" style pellet? I mean if I'm going pcp I would like to be able to have the capabilities associated with a pcp, that farther reach, modifiable/upgradeable, I actually had it saved in my ebay "watching" but being unsure if it's a grooved 11mm mount or the piccatiny system? Any help would be great before the investment