why would anyone choose a heavier gun all things being equal?
Quote from: SpiralGroove on December 20, 2016, 10:19:23 AMwhy would anyone choose a heavier gun all things being equal? Huh? Scott just outlined why they are NOT equal. Powerful springers need mass to shoot accurately. That is the practical observation of many, but not all. Plus longer guns have longer sight radii.
How does the r1 compare to the Diana 350 magnum? (In any caliber)
Quote from: L4z4r0s on December 27, 2021, 06:41:02 PMHow does the r1 compare to the Diana 350 magnum? (In any caliber)OK, kick the bee's nest. I'm sitting down with popcorn waiting on the replies. This should be good.
Quote from: Bayman on December 27, 2021, 06:56:52 PMQuote from: L4z4r0s on December 27, 2021, 06:41:02 PMHow does the r1 compare to the Diana 350 magnum? (In any caliber)OK, kick the bee's nest. I'm sitting down with popcorn waiting on the replies. This should be good. I've never owned a Diana 350 (always thought I would), but the D350 is lighter and more powerful vs. the HW80S/R1.People often mention the D350 unruliness; my HW80S (now converted to .20) is a teeth rattler too, but my most accurate Springer.The shot cycle is so quick/sudden - you almost don't know what happened, except you hit the intended target. The gun gets a nice workout every time I go camping and shoot at 75/80 yards; 50 yards is boring accurate.
You get a beautiful, high quality, powerful ,and very accurate airgun from the HW80/R1. After all its an HW. Each person has to decide what the need is ,for that particular rifle and match it up best. For me most any rifle heading to 8lbs or more is a flat out no. I need a comfortable field carry weight when hunting and I need to get into action fast so no slinging it on my back either. For me the HW50s or FWB 124/127 size and weight is the top size range .Even th R9 scoped is a bit too much. And I put a premium on 50 yard or less air gun shots. Anything more I have several fantastic 22 rimfires that take over. I never liked the idea of airguns going big bore or shooting super long ranges . For me thats the fun of airguns ,50 yds or less, safe, quiet ,cheap shooting. And it has to be wood and metal and good looking too!
My first quality air rifle was a .20 R1. This was back in the late 1980s or early '90s before the internet was common. Just about the only source of information was Tom Gaylord's book. I tore my R1 down several times trying to smooth out the vibration and twang. When I got it smooth, the power dropped to a level where it simply made no sense to use such a massive gun. I eventually sold that gun and never looked back. I've owned several R9 and a couple of RWS 34/36 guns. I much prefer those platforms to the big R1. I just think it's oversized for what you get.