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RBQChicken
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Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 10, 2017, 09:51:11 AM »
My brother in law has a '74 Blue Streak that has been sitting for over 20 years, unused, with a couple of pellets stuck in the barrel, thanks to his son. I'm guessing he maybe tried a .22 in there, got it jammed, and then tried to shoot it out with another pellet.
I haven't tried anything yet, but am thinking the best way to unjam it would be to go down the barrel with a wooden dowel. I'm thinking if it is stuck closer to the breech I would come at it from the muzzle end or vice-versa.
Does that sound like a reasonable plan, or is there a better way to unjam this thing? The gun also has complete separation from the pump tube, plus about 6 inches of barrel separation. I'm planning on JB Welding it back together.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 10, 2017, 10:11:00 AM »
A wooden Dowl would be my first choice as well.
IF you have a good Hobby Shop nearby they will have a good selection of aluminum round stock but that's about ALL I would use and go in from the muzzle and out towards the breech.
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The gun also has complete separation from the pump tube, plus about 6 inches of barrel separation.
I am not following you here.
If the barrel is only separated 6"... what is the pump tube separated from?
The stock? (That is one screw just ahead of the trigger.)
The pump handle?
The pump linkage?
Sorry, still a little foggy from last night.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 10, 2017, 10:22:45 AM »
Sorry about that. I meant to say the breech is separated from the pump tube, plus about the first 6 inches or so of barrel immediately in front of the breech.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 10, 2017, 10:28:07 AM »
I have two T-handle cleaning rods for .17 cal.from previously owned .17 HMR long guns. Keep one in the basement and the other in my SUV that I go shooting with. They are both coated so there is no chance of damaging the rifling. I've used them on various caliber pellet guns to dislodge stuck pellets. Always do it from muzzle to breach.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 10, 2017, 11:05:06 AM »
I have used a welding rod ( I think it was made of Brass) that I purchased to remove a stuck pellet from a Benjamin 397PA I purchased at a pawn shop for $20. I knew there was a bore obstruction when I bought it. A cleaning rod did not work. I measured from both the breech and muzzle and found that there was likely more than 1 pellet stuck in the barrel. Using the welding rod, lubrication and a small hammer with multiple small taps - (muzzle towards breech) - I managed to remove the obstruction. There was a combination of 12 BB's, and various types of pellets present.
No bore damage ocurred, and accuracy is very good. Best of luck with your project!! VetEyedoc/Mark
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 11, 2017, 12:28:23 AM »
In my experience, if shooting out a stuck pellet with another one more seems like a good idea, then two or three more is even better. Most I've heard of is 13. A guy brought me a gun with a nail that got stuck, I guess they ran out of pellets. So, they tried to shoot it out with another nail. When that didn't work, another nail was employed. We got them out by heating the barrel and applying gentle pressure with a cleaning rod. I'm guessing that you have more than 2 pellets in there, or at least should approach it as such.
Point is, between the stuck pellet and the barrel/receiver separation, this gun probably should go in for repair. Those are tough ones for the DIY.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 12, 2017, 05:32:39 PM »
I went to home depot and got a 5mm drill bit that was like 24" long, drilled till it would drag, took it out and cleaned the lead and kept going.
took me about 5 min but it worked perfect, didnt damage anything at all and it still shoots perfectly to this day.
that was 7 years ago.
it had 7 pellets in it because he didnt know he had them stuck, just thought he was a bad shot before he realized what was going on.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 14, 2017, 10:14:20 AM »
Finally got home with the gun last night. This morning, I measured how far I could get a dowel in from both ends of the barrel to calculate how much of the barrel is plugged. 2 and 7/8 inches! I laid .20 Benjamin pellets out end to end and it equates to about 13 pellets.
Tried tapping them out with 1/8" wooden dowel but the dowel keeps breaking. Maybe if I could find hardwood dowel it might work, but I think my dowels are a softer wood.
You'd think 3/16 inch dowels would work because that equates to only .1875 inches but they won't fit. I may have to try to locate some brass or aluminum round stock. Any suggestions where to find that stuff?
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 14, 2017, 10:24:57 AM »
Randy ...You can check this place out. I have never used them but they advertise that they sell direct to your door.
https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/89622997
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 14, 2017, 03:32:41 PM »
Thanks for the link, Tom. I couldn't find any brass round stock around here today and I got to thinking (the neighbors thought they could smell smoke
). Since the pellets are stuck only about 3.5 inches from the muzzle I thought maybe I could nudge them to get them started with 1/8" steel round stock, then keep tapping them out with the 1/8" wood dowel. I figured with only 3.5" in the barrel to begin with I could keep that steel stock away from the rifling.
There is some wiggle room with the 1/8 steel stock so I found the center of the pellet nose and gave a couple of careful whacks with a hammer. All I did was get it stuck in the lead. Not much, it just gripped the rod a little when I pulled it back out. I'm confident I didn't touch the inside of the barrel with the rod, but I probably only succeeded in making that first pellet a little tighter than it was.
I wonder - if I pulled the front end apart and put the final 5 or 6 inches of barrel in boiling water for awhile, maybe that would expand the barrel enough to loosen things up, or would the lead just expand even more and make it even tighter?
Looks like this is going to be tougher than I thought..............
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 14, 2017, 04:30:39 PM »
Randy..I would try getting a long drill bit and spin it slowly by hand, until a hole is bored thru the soft lead.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 14, 2017, 05:33:27 PM »
So the pellets are stuck closer to the muzzle end, correct?
Hmmmm, I wonder if they have been in there long enough for the lead to corrode or oxidize?
This would certainly make them REALLY stuck, almost fused to the bore.
Perhaps a good soaking with a penetrating oil like PB Blaster or some kind of lead dissolving bore cleaner (as long it's safe for brass) might be in order.
I would be VERY hesitant to go at it with a drill bit from the muzzle end, unless you used some kind of guide to center the bit and keep it OFF the most important part of the rifling at the muzzle.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 14, 2017, 07:40:29 PM »
Pounding on a stack of stuck pellets tends to deform and wedge them ever tighter. You might want to try making a wood-screw type "thread" on the end of a 3/16 drill rod, then use it like the old-time muzzle-loader "worm" to catch onto one pellet at a time and PULL them out. I've done this on a few .22 airguns; it takes patience but eventually succeeds.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 14, 2017, 08:03:38 PM »
I was just looking down the muzzle and I can see where I dented a hole dead center in the first pellet. At least I was keeping it away from the rifling. Looks just like a hollow point now.
The pellets have probably been in there 20 or 25 years. Probably corrosion in there like Kelvinator said.
On my can of PB Blaster it says it rejuvenates seals and rubber, but then says "caution", it can effect some plastics.
I wonder what it would do to the seals if some of it got into the valve through the transfer port.
I don't have the ability to fashion a screw tip out of a drill bit.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 14, 2017, 10:45:02 PM »
I am on pins and needles... following along with nothing to contribute at this point... except what ever you use make sure it is softer than bronze.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 14, 2017, 11:28:11 PM »
I tried some PBlaster,putting it in on the muzzle end and letting it sit for an hour or two. Did nothing. I'll sleep on it tonight, but at this point I'm leaning towards removing the front end hardware so I can shove the muzzle end down in some boiling water for awhile to see if the barrel expands and releases it's grip on the pellets. Of course, I'm always hoping you folks will come up with more suggestions.
If only there was something that would dissolve lead but leave brass/bronze unharmed....
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 15, 2017, 12:21:55 AM »
Agree with Oldair. Think of a deck screw, without the screw head, welded or somehow attached to a 1/8" rod. You go up the barrel, screw into the skirt of the first pellet, and pull it out. Repeat until all are removed. The heat and lubes can make it easier.
Some ideas are more likely to affect the rifling in what is a pretty soft barrel. Something to consider if that matters to you.
I'll be surprised if they come out from pushing. And even if they do, you still have barrel separation to deal with.
If you use heat, like torch heat, pull the valve innards first and avoid a sticky mess to then have to address.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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I'd send it to Tim at MAC1 and have it Cleared, repaired and also have a steroid done to it............
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 15, 2017, 04:16:25 PM »
I doubt the PB Blaster would harm the valve parts, no longer than the small amount would be in it.
I'd try filling the barrel with PB from the breach end and let it stand muzzle down over night on a clean rag or in a catch can so you can see if any of it works its way past the pellets and seeps out the muzzle.
If its already seeping past the pellets plug the muzzle so it stays in the barrel over night.
Some heat on it while its soaking wouldn't hurt.
You can get a cheap heat gun from harbor freight for 10 - 12 bucks, they come in quite handy and you can control the amount of heat.
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Re: Removing stuck pellets in a Sheridan
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September 15, 2017, 05:13:58 PM »
I never even thought of a heat gun. I have one of those. Maybe I'll give it a try tonight. Tomorrow I'm going to the hardware store to get a bolt that will fit in my .177 cleaning rod. I'll screw it in tight, then cut off the head and maybe taper it a little and see if I can get it started in the lead with a tap and then screw it in enough to get a bite so I can pull it out.
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