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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #181 on: January 28, 2021, 07:50:53 PM »
So #80 came back from its trip to be adjusted about a week or so ago.  I havenít had time to post any updates because, well, life is busy. 
I had asked them to look at the suspected breech issue (chatter) but nothing was noted.  I did get a manual. 
After some testing, about 50 rounds, the only pellet I can get to consistently shoot is the lead free daisy pellets I believe I mentioned earlier in this thread. I have several other lead free pellets on hand now and some H&N match green wad cutters (5.25 grain) shoot only after I cock the gun, fire it with no pellet discharge, cock it again- then it will fire.  Clearly even with the power adjustment this gun is not right.  Iím guessing with the suspected chatter, the breech is not sealing like it should.  I did mention earlier in the thread, Iím a lead free basement shooter.  I have no interest in a gun that cannot shoot lead free consistently and gives decent group sizes for the distances Iím shooting.   
The daisy pellets are giving me about an inch (or so) group at 20 feet (or so).  Not acceptable for me- that is using a dot sight mounted on the gun, and using a rest.

I will be contacting PA again to try an exchange.  If that replacement doesnít fly, Iím done with the AV46M and onto an original.  I like the look of this model, with the red grip. 
For this price point, this gun should more than deliver on expectations. 


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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #182 on: January 28, 2021, 08:00:53 PM »
Gavin,

That is a real bummer.  Getting a working replacement, or a used original (like the link two posts up) is a good plan.
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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #183 on: January 31, 2021, 05:13:56 PM »
I finally picked up an IZH 46 M  (not the AV).   The 46m just does not hang right in my hand compared to my Air Venturi V10 which naturally points almost perfectly for me.  That grip is rather funky and I can see I'll be doing some work on it.   I think I'll have to make a new grip shelf but that should be easy.     The trigger is awesome, much nicer than the V 10.   It's certainly more accurate than I am but so is the V10.  I've always liked front heavy target pistols so that's another plus.  It'll take a while to figure out how much or if it will actually improve my scores.   I like the weird appearance of the 46M vs the more conventional look of the  V 10.
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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #184 on: January 31, 2021, 05:49:58 PM »
Congrats on your 46M. You will come to love it.

Comparing a 46M to a V10 is like apples to fish.

The original grip on the 46M is crude by intent. It is oversized to be custom fitted to your own hand at your own discretion.

It is extremely accurate, almost to an Olympic level for it's time period of production.

I have my trigger adjusted to a 0.46oz. level, and that is not a typo. Although way to light for ISSF parameters, it is still a safe level, even without a safety.

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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #185 on: June 22, 2021, 09:23:40 PM »
I just received a new catalog from Pyramyd today.  They are still selling the 46M.  Is it still the same problematic pistol?

Can the real Baikal 46M still be ordered from Krale?  Anyone done this recently?  (It isn't in stock right now, but is it orderable?)
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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #186 on: June 22, 2021, 11:30:54 PM »
Bruce,

I bought a Baikal 46M from Krale 2.5 years ago.  I know of a few after that.  The last airgun I bought from Krale was about a year ago.

You can email Krale about availability, here:  info@krale.shop


As for the PA version; in theory these are OK after the compression is reset to spec.  There are members here that have both the AV and Baikal/IZZY versions.  Their opinions would be most valuable.

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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #187 on: June 23, 2021, 10:49:10 PM »
Signed up for an email from Krale when the Baikal-46M's are back in stock.  Did this once before and they did email me.  But the timing was bad, and funds weren't available.  Stinks when that happens. :(  Hope the wait isn't too long.

Gee, they are getting pricey.  (Still cheaper then the 46M from Pyramyd, so that's not too bad.)
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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #188 on: June 24, 2021, 04:00:34 AM »
I have a classified 46M on order. But reading the topic, though it is not fully clear to me on what is the issue then with the 46M.

The one I have on order has the Baikal brand on the left side of the tube, next to that the model name and then it has a section there that says Importer: Air Venturi.

So should that be a good one then ? or what can be the potential challenge ?

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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #189 on: June 24, 2021, 12:03:51 PM »
Rudy,

What you described is the proper Russian "IZZY", as imported by Air Venturi ten or more years ago.  A pistol that has Air Venturi markings, but not also "Baikal" or "Izhmash" would be the recent ones that have not worked properly, right out of the box.

The pistol you are looking to buy might need new seals, starting with the breech seals (very easily replaced).  If you have seen a picture of the Baikal name on that pistol and know it is not a picture of another pistol, you should be good to go.  Assuming the pistol has not been abused.
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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #190 on: June 24, 2021, 03:54:38 PM »
Great stuff then ! Thanks, appreciate your feedback.

I trust the seller, he even shared proactively his cell phone number for sharing all the details and pictures.

From the pictures I can see that this particular 46M is really as new. According to the seller it was more like a collectors item for him, rather then that he has ever shot with it.
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Re: 46M available from Pyramid
« Reply #191 on: June 24, 2021, 04:02:14 PM »
Jolly good, Rudy

Perhaps a few drops of oil on the piston seal and cocking hinges and cam, and you are off to the races!
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