Hey Dave,Interesting photos, I'm not sure the point of lashing yourself to a big compressed air tank, kind of kills the point of this being a very mobile carbine assault rifle type of (BB) rifle and considering that with 2 12gr CO2's installed you get 180 shots anyways? Our experience is that the 180 shots IS accurate too. While we've only gone through 10 out of a 25 box of Crosman CO2's ($20), we are getting around that 180 shots from the 2 installed. My house is on a large for South Orange County lot, about a 3/8th of an acre, so I set up a "Run n Gun" range in the back yard like we shoot out in the desert with 22LR's (rifle and pistol) and 5.56NATO rifle and 9mm pistol. Be tough doing that Run n Gun lugging around a 20lbs air tank!Interesting "shooting room" you've got too, do you live underground or in a cave?
Hey, Cobrajocky! It's an upstairs train cave! I do a lot of clocking and testing in my attic at 10 meters. FWIW, I DO have additional Stock Mags! The 20lb. tank stays in the garage....the 20's and 3.5's feed from it.....it doesn't get any better than that! BTW, It's always nice to hear from a fellow Orange County member. Remember the South Coast Gun Club off Jeffrey and Irvine Blvd?..................... The good old days! dave
Ah, OK CP Tactical is Crosman's brand, that figures since it came with your DPMS from the factory. You must have one of the earliest issues of the DPMS SBR models, I noticed that Crosman is not offereing a model with a Red Dot included with the DPMS SBR. Only a rifle only with Iron Sights and 1 magazine or a "Combo Kit" with Iron Sights (plastic), 2 magazines, oil, 500 Copperhead BB's. Crosman is including a Red Dot Sight only, no Iron Sights, with the slightly newer "Bushmaster" model CO2 Full Auto that is based on the same receiver and lower as the DPMS. The reviews I've seen on YouTube complain that the Red Dot included (looks very different that yours) is really &^^& and all plastic. You were lucky looks like. When did you buy yours and did you have any problems? Lots of leak problems and seal failures reported on early Crosman DPMS SBR's on this forum sight and others.Ps. I have Lionel O gauge when I was a kid in the Midwest on the family farm (early 50's), packed away in the basement of our house during college and it flooded to the ceiling a few times one spring season, destroyed all the trains and accessories. I had locomotives and appropriate freight cars and a AT&SF "Streamliner" (all silver) set too. All gone.[/quoteSorry To hear about those classic Lionels! The DPMS is probably the best Full-Auto out there. I bought this one almost a year ago for $200.00. Since then I always buy extra Mags for all my guns! The Umarex MP-40 is finicky about which BB's you use and how they are stacked and staggered in the Mag. The SBR will shoot everything! Gun is amazingly accurate for a smooth barrel....and really fun on Full-Auto! BTW, any Dot scope with a Picatinny rail will work just fine! Oh, and no leaks or problems with this one! dave
Yeah Dave, I am definitely getting the thoughts you just explained.Well, they don't know the (cheap) fun they are missing, eh?
What you're doing is cool! Unfortunately, everyone on this forum is interested only in PCP,HPA guns. They have little or absolutely no interest in CO2 BB guns...
Dave S,I had been eye-balling that Crosman Beretta P-1, as I own a real Beretta 92FS, but when it comes to air pistols I far prefer to stay with Pellet instead of BB. I have to admit that P-1 is a great looking "replica".You sure have a thing for "tethering" to a big compressed air supply! Just out of curiosity, with just a CO2 in that P-1, how many shots did you get? Could the the large external supply be contributing to it shooting low per the original sights?I do have a recent Swiss Arms made CO2 replica SIG Sauer SP2022 9mm that's BB (25 BB capacity) with a metal slide and polymer frame, but it is not blow-back. Also have a real SIG SP2022, and while it is completely accurate in size and look, it's not even close in weight. However, it is rated as the highest in fps of any CO2 BB replica and with my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph, I've measured routinely 525fps using Crosman Copperheads at 5 ft from the muzzle. Groups are 1.1inch at 33ft locked on a machine rest and it actually shoots where the sights (fixed) align from the factory!I have a SIG Sauer brand (made by a contractor in Japan I strongly suspect is long time air gun maker Tokyo Marui Ltd.) P226 Navy SEALS model CO2 Pellet Blow-back. I've checked, SIG has no factory in Japan and the SIG branded pistols are all clearly labeled "Made in Japan". Great looking pistol, details are accurate, the ejection port is fake, as part of the steel slide, does not lock back on last shot (so you have to count 8 and flip the two-ended 8 pellet rotary magazine). The CO2 caplet is in the back-strap of the grip, separate from the pellet magazine. Oh, the frame is steel too, nearly everything on this is steel. .... nice!Here's the bad news, the front sight is absurdly high for 33 feet (10 meters) and the best fps measurements I've gotten with Crosman Wadcutter Match Pellets is 350fps, NOTHING like the 520fps their advertising and box claims. However, the 5 shot groups are tight off a machine rest, 7/8ths of an inch at the standard 33 feet /10 meters. I've only had it for a few weeks and I'm hoping that the fps will improve as the Pelgun Oil "circulates more and it's broken in as most Pellet Guns tend to do.But for real pistol feel and my intent of having a non-firearms Run n Gun shoot using BB's and/or Pellet guns, it's a real nice choice.And I agree, the Crosman DPMS SBR is the best under $200 I have spent on an air gun, it's flawless except that the plastic flip-up sights are a joke. The front sight is not adjustable for elevation and it's fixed post is literally an 1/8" too short so the impact point for BB's is like 75 feet instead of 33 feet! How did Crosman make that error!? I'm shopping around for metal flip up adjustable "back up" sightsPictures below - 1 & 2 is the Swiss Arms CO2 replica SIG Sauer SP2022 9mm in BB, with Metal Slide / no Blow-back3 is the SIG Sauer "branded" Made in Japan P226 Navy SEALS CO2 replica w/ Blow-back in .177 Pellet
Have you guys seen the new mag for the SBR? Looks like it has a built in 300 bb reservoir. I saw it someplace in the Shot Show reviews, but its also in Crosman's 2020 catalog. Also, looks like they are coming out with a AK version of the full auto BB gun.