That ideal competitive shooting form does not work for me. My elbows, at its lowest point, rests about 2" above my iliac crest.
Quote from: xraycer on October 10, 2017, 11:37:21 AMThat ideal competitive shooting form does not work for me. My elbows, at its lowest point, rests about 2" above my iliac crest. My elbows are at least two inches shy of resting on my hip bones.
In a natural stance, my elbows are the same- I am thinking this is probably quite normal, and likely the reason for placing the left foot and hip forward, with the hip thrust forward and slightly upward.
I can't seem to get my elbow onto my hip bone no matter what I do.
I'm sure I'm not shaped like a T-rex and positive I'm not built like an orangutan. Now I'm worried I have too long a torso... I must be built like a WEASEL!
Pretty sure I can posture a profile stance and rest the gun on my belly.
Quote from: sepppo on October 14, 2017, 11:32:55 AMQuote from: ac12 on October 14, 2017, 01:15:59 AMYou need to separate aiming/sight picture from the trigger finger.As mm said, CONCENTRATE on the sight picture, start the trigger pull, then back 100% to the sight picture, and HOLD that sight picture.Your thousands of dry fire shots will have put the trigger pull into sub-conscious memory, where the sub-conscious mind and body will pull the trigger. This is the "surprise release." This is just like driving a manual transmission car. You don't think about the working the clutch and shift lever, you just do it. My best (fastest/smoothest) manual trans acceleration onto the freeway, was by keeping my mind on steering the car and merging into traffic, and just letting my hand and feet do the shifting for me.The term is "trust your hold."It works for both AR and AP.Very interesting! Thank you for sharing.What exactly do you mean by HOLD the sight picture? For match AR, the sight picture is the concentric circles of the rear sight + front sight + bull.As in the attached pix.The idea is to keep the bull inside the front sight aperture, and as stable as possible. You are 100% concentrating on maintaining and holding that sight picture.EVERYBODY wobbles, so absolutely stable is impossible. The idea is to get the shot off within about 6 seconds from getting the sight picture. Some place within this 6 seconds is the time where most people are steadiest. After you shoot at lot, you will kind of figure when YOU are steadiest. After 8 seconds, you tire, and the wobble increases.
Quote from: ac12 on October 14, 2017, 01:15:59 AMYou need to separate aiming/sight picture from the trigger finger.As mm said, CONCENTRATE on the sight picture, start the trigger pull, then back 100% to the sight picture, and HOLD that sight picture.Your thousands of dry fire shots will have put the trigger pull into sub-conscious memory, where the sub-conscious mind and body will pull the trigger. This is the "surprise release." This is just like driving a manual transmission car. You don't think about the working the clutch and shift lever, you just do it. My best (fastest/smoothest) manual trans acceleration onto the freeway, was by keeping my mind on steering the car and merging into traffic, and just letting my hand and feet do the shifting for me.The term is "trust your hold."It works for both AR and AP.Very interesting! Thank you for sharing.What exactly do you mean by HOLD the sight picture?
You need to separate aiming/sight picture from the trigger finger.As mm said, CONCENTRATE on the sight picture, start the trigger pull, then back 100% to the sight picture, and HOLD that sight picture.Your thousands of dry fire shots will have put the trigger pull into sub-conscious memory, where the sub-conscious mind and body will pull the trigger. This is the "surprise release." This is just like driving a manual transmission car. You don't think about the working the clutch and shift lever, you just do it. My best (fastest/smoothest) manual trans acceleration onto the freeway, was by keeping my mind on steering the car and merging into traffic, and just letting my hand and feet do the shifting for me.The term is "trust your hold."It works for both AR and AP.
Quote from: xraycer on October 10, 2017, 11:37:21 AMThat ideal competitive shooting form does not work for me. My elbows, at its lowest point, rests about 2" above my iliac crest. I guess, I'm built kinda like a T-rex. My standing form consists of resting the underside of my left upper arm flat against my torso, and resting the trigger guard onto my palm.My elbows are at least two inches shy of resting on my hip bones. And I don't think I'm built like a T-rex and I'm betting you're not either, Dinh. Maybe others are built like orangutans! I struggle with finding an ideal off-hand shooting stance, but I love the challenge. I usually won't let myself end a back yard shooting session until I've hit all my spinner targets off-hand, consecutively.
That ideal competitive shooting form does not work for me. My elbows, at its lowest point, rests about 2" above my iliac crest. I guess, I'm built kinda like a T-rex. My standing form consists of resting the underside of my left upper arm flat against my torso, and resting the trigger guard onto my palm.
Quote from: desmobob on October 18, 2017, 11:40:10 PMMy elbows are at least two inches shy of resting on my hip bones. And I don't think I'm built like a T-rex and I'm betting you're not either, Dinh. Maybe others are built like orangutans! I struggle with finding an ideal off-hand shooting stance, but I love the challenge. I usually won't let myself end a back yard shooting session until I've hit all my spinner targets off-hand, consecutively.You do not have to rest your elbow on your hip.If your upper arm does not reach the hip bone, there is an alternative.You use tension.The weight of the rifle pushing down on your arm and shoulders is like pulling on a rope. Once you get the muscles out of the picture, it is pretty stable.The side of the upper arm pushes against the side of the chest for more stability.
My elbows are at least two inches shy of resting on my hip bones. And I don't think I'm built like a T-rex and I'm betting you're not either, Dinh. Maybe others are built like orangutans! I struggle with finding an ideal off-hand shooting stance, but I love the challenge. I usually won't let myself end a back yard shooting session until I've hit all my spinner targets off-hand, consecutively.
The belly-rest should be a standard option in American Field Target.
You do not have to rest your elbow on your hip.If your upper arm does not reach the hip bone, there is an alternative.You use tension.The weight of the rifle pushing down on your arm and shoulders is like pulling on a rope. Once you get the muscles out of the picture, it is pretty stable.The side of the upper arm pushes against the side of the chest for more stability.