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March 20, 2023, 02:34:33 PM »
Having a problem with my well. Had terrible snow storms and power outages and well froze up because heater wouldnt power on now everthing is defrosted but the well wont pump water. It buzzes like its running but no water movement. There is power to the box and to the well pump but when I pull the well plug on top of the outlet and turn pump on it buzzes and water kind of pulses up and down but not out. Im thinking control box issue? Once again not frozen.
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Is it a 220 pump? How deep is the pump set? If it's a 220v pump you might have a blown fuse on 1 of the legs. The buzzing might be your pressure switch not making good connection. Pressure switches were going out every few years for me when I lived in Lucerne valley . We did have problems with ants getting in between the contacts and burning them up.
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Some pumps must be "primed" this means pouring water into the pump before turning it on. This is because the pump will not pump air until the water gets to the pump impeller. There is probably a youtube video if there is a procedure to prime your pump.
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If the pump is actually running, & you’ve primed it, the check valve could possibly be hung up. Try rapping on pump or the pipe casing with a wrench, hammer or whatever.
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March 20, 2023, 05:16:32 PM »
In ground well pumps are usually submerged 40 or more feet below the well water level so there's no priming needed. Now if he has a shallow well,say 50 feet or so the he might have a different type of pump. My pump was 180 ft below ground level with the water level at 135 ft.
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In addition to priming, which is unlikely with a pump deeply buried, the combination of no power and freezing/expanding still water might have busted something, sorry to say.
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I have had 2 of the wells at work , with submersables have their iron pipes rust out and loose most of the pressure, the cure was pulling the pump and replacing the pipe with plastic.
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Buzzing sound >>> contactors probably have a pitted connection on one leg. I always start with the simplest stuff to check. If everything froze solid, you may have a cracked housing or damaged impellor. Can you verify if you have a submersible pump, which is an entirely different animal to a jet pump (shallow well).
A few things to think about:
well depth (IE deep/submersible pump or jetpump with exposed housing/motor)
120 or 240?
age of piping?
If your pump is a shallow-well/jet pump, you can disconnect the housing halves that contain the diffuser and repair the innards. It could be as simply as a venturi o-ring. Likewise, the pressure switch contacts need to be clean. Burnish them, or polish with 400-grit or higher- and go buy a replacement switch to replace at a less inconvenient time. Once they start pitting, the contactor lifespan dramatically shortens. There's a chance it could be the start capacitor on a jet pump, but I replaced maybe 5 of these in a few thousand repairs. Again, this is on a shallow well AKA jet pump. First thoughts are venturi o-ring and pressure switch contacts. Also a chance of a sticking check-valve in the suction, but I'd consider this least likely scenario imaginable.
Metal body shallow well pumps typically have more corrosion on the contacts; nylon/plastic-body jet pumps typically warp or have the o-ring fail. Also, if it sounds like it is pumping marbles, the carbon seal is allowing trace amounts of water passed and onto the bearings. If this is the case, put some pennies aside. You can replace the carbon packing but wear butyl gloves to prevent oil from your fingers getting on the face of the carbon seal.
If your pump is a deep-well submersible, there's generally a lot less to go wrong. Line voltage/pressure switch, or corroded/collapsed lines- with far more emphasis on the line voltage/controller.
A final thought- if you have a pump-house, chances are this is a shallow-well pump. A left-on lightbulb in a pump house can usually keep it warm enough to prevent freezing, but if the housing is metal, it might be worth using a heater-cable like this:
versus a light bulb.
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March 25, 2023, 01:45:24 AM »
I'm with the above, check both legs of the service, if you have a breaker box in the pump house check for 110V on both (220V between them), I had a breaker supplying the pump house go out and only one leg was powered... the other thing that can happen is if it has a panel for the pump there's a big capacitor in there, they can go out, they're cheap, look for leaks of liquid or whatnot on the capacitor once you pull the front panel off...
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