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Winchester 800X Makers
« on: July 22, 2021, 10:48:21 PM »
So, got around to cleaning an area of the shop that I hadnít seen for awhile. Found a couple of Winchester (by Daisy) 800X rifles in the boxes. One was made in Turkey. I assume by Hatsan. The older one was made in Brazil. I actually like the stock better on this one. Any ideas who the maker was? Thanks for any help.
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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2021, 11:31:28 PM »
a pic would help... i know that some norica guns made their way there under different names...
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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2021, 12:08:49 PM »
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I will take some pics. Then, to figure out how to post them. Itís drizzling here, now. When it quits Iíll get at it
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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2021, 06:36:11 PM »
I have a Winchester 800x and 1000x both made by Hatsan. I googled the Turkish and Brazilian 800x and the differences are small. Stocks are the same. Front sight on the Brazilian is a hooded target sight (Baker Air Guns). The trigger guards look a little different. The Hatsan has a scope stop with a screw thru it, the Brazilian does not. My turkey 800 has the screw hole but no stop.

I don't know about the trigger. The turkey gun's trigger is hard to work on. I assume the Brazilian trigger is the same. I have a Win. 1100ws and outwardly it looks like the other two but the trigger is very different and the stock is full but not fancy.

Several years ago I found  the Win. 1000w and Daisy 1000p at the same pawn shop. The stocks are interchangeable. I ordered a Win. wood stock from Daisy for the Daisy 1000p. The Daisy trigger broke, fixed it, broke again, parts bin.

Latter I found the Win. 800x. It had the smaller, shorter stock. It fit perfect in the extra Win. stock I ordered. The Hatsan Win. 1000x and the 800x are identical except the 800 has a little less spring I guess. The Chinese 1100 stock is different. the front stock screw go in at an angle. On the Turkish and Brazilian guns they go straight in 90 degrees.

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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2021, 07:00:36 PM »
i got two 1000x winchester made in turkey, but they have different style stocks. both are synthetic, but one of them has a scalloped finger groove running on each side, and the shoulders of the stoch end right at the pivot point, and not pass the breach block. also the one with finger grooves has a hooded front sight
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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2021, 12:57:34 PM »
I bought a Winchester 1250WS awhile back when they were being given away as contest prizes. Nice rifle with checkering on a rather full wood stock. These later ones are based on the Daisy 1000 Powerline.
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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2021, 07:51:54 AM »
Okay, I have the pics of both guns. Can I just text them to some tech savvy person to post? Iíve just had a whole bunch more work dumped on me.
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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2021, 01:29:43 PM »
There are two stocks for these guns. One is longer and covers the barrel block and where the barrels pivot and has checkering on the pistol grip and forearm. the other is shorter and does not cover the barrel block and pivot area. It has groove in the forearm running long ways. Daisy may have them. You can google the number and call them. If not I may have an extra one with the short stock and grooves. Several years ago I ordered the long stock for one of mine. Let me know.
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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2021, 06:21:45 PM »
Sorry, mistake.
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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2021, 04:41:34 PM »
Just got the Snow Peak B4-2. I have two other just like it. Tore it down after test firing it. Wouldn't blow a pellet out the barrel. Used a cleaning rod. Stock beat up bad. Has that orange or brown Chinese paint on it. I'll strip it and sand it. Then use use some Min-wax light oak with poly mixed in. Soak all the medal in gasoline over night. Wipe clean, dry and spray exterior with p/u bed liner.

Had a 33 coil spring still straight, steel spring guide, leather piston seal in good shape. Still going to replace. Had two flat disc under the seal. That keeps the seal migrating around the side of the piston. If your B1 had a disc put it under the seal I sent you. The breach seal(totally different from break barrel seals) came out in pieces. I think oil causes them to get hard and shatter like that. And there were two steel BB's jammed into what was left of the breach seal.

Hot dang, I see they delivered my other gun. I didn't expect it till tomorrow or Sat.. Oh, I found the model number on line. A Loin AR262 air rifle.

Gonna' pause a few  and check out the AR262!

Well, something was in the barrel like dirt or pieces of the seal and a couple of pellets. It's rough but I'll get it going. Same routine as the other. That's not a magnet on the cocking handle. Just a round piece of chrome metal. Looks kind of like a hearing aid battery. A spacer between the barrel and cocking lever. The cocking lever is kind of skinny. Something in the cocking linkage or the geometry of it springs the lever up against the barrel. Oh well, Take care buddy. AS they say, More will be revealed.

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Re: Winchester 800X Makers
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2021, 04:55:56 PM »
Just got the Snow Peak B4-2. I have two other just like it. Tore it down after test firing it. Wouldn't blow a pellet out the barrel. Used a cleaning rod. Stock beat up bad. Has that orange or brown Chinese paint on it. I'll strip it and sand it. Then use use some Min-wax light oak with poly mixed in. Soak all the medal in gasoline over night. Wipe clean, dry and spray exterior with p/u bed liner.

Had a 33 coil spring still straight, steel spring guide, leather piston seal in good shape. Still going to replace. Had two flat disc under the seal. That keeps the seal migrating around the side of the piston. If your B1 had a disc put it under the seal I sent you. The breach seal(totally different from break barrel seals) came out in pieces. I think oil causes them to get hard and shatter like that. And there were two steel BB's jammed into what was left of the breach seal.

Hot dang, I see they delivered my other gun. I didn't expect it till tomorrow or Sat.. Oh, I found the model number on line. A Loin AR262 air rifle.

Gonna' pause a few  and check out the AR262!

Well, something was in the barrel like dirt or pieces of the seal and a couple of pellets. It's rough but I'll get it going. Same routine as the other. That's not a magnet on the cocking handle. Just a round piece of chrome metal. Looks kind of like a hearing aid battery. A spacer between the barrel and cocking lever. The cocking lever is kind of skinny. Something in the cocking linkage or the geometry of it springs the lever up against the barrel. Oh well, Take care buddy. AS they say, More will be revealed.



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Mendoza RM2800 repeater
Norica Massimo .22
CZ631
Hammerli X2 dual cal.(Mendoza)
Beeman RS2.177/.22
Air Hawk Elite wood T.H.
Storm in Benj. T.H. stock, GRT
Crosman 3100(Spain)
Steoger Ducks Unlimited X3
RWS93 (Spain)
2 TF99
TF89 (chopped, shrouded Beeman .22 Brl.)
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4 Peak B4-2
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2 QB6,
2 QB57
2 Fast Deer
2 B3-1AK
AR2078B 
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